robert m. riches jr.

Does anyone know how to get rid of the wasteful gunk
(package group icons) 2007's MandrivaUpdate uses to fill the
entire left column?

In 2006, the left column had package names, and the right
column had the package description, reason for update, etc.
In 2007, the whole left column is occupied by a tree of
icons for some semi-arbitrary classification of packages
into groups. The right column is now split, giving less
than half the former column space for the package names and
descriptions. You can't even see the whole list of
available packages one shot until the confirmation step
after package selection. The layout in 2007 is _massively_
less efficient in time and space.

<grumpy-mode>
I don't care what grouping somebody put a package into, and
I don't want to be forced to look at the infantile icon
somebody's crayon-wielding preschooler created. I don't
want to have to click on a whole bunch of crayonish icons to
find the names of packages to select for updating. Now,
_THIS_ is something I feel like filing a bug report about!
</grumpy-mode>

Is there any reasonable way to restore a 2006-like layout?

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iordani

I don't, but I agree in everything you say.
Just so the world knows...

wes newell

I'll agree with this. All I ever used was the flat list by filename. And
they did away with that or i can't find it. Luckily I don't have 2007 on
my main system.

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gopher

rpmdrake in general now ****s in 2007 with the freaking icons. I just
want to get a list of packages. I don't want to click an icon and then
get a list, then click another icon to get yet another list etc, etc,
etc. When I wanted to add a package I mostly used the list by medium
repository and go scanning through the list to see what looked
interesting, especially with plf. With updates I just want to see a list
of what is available for updating without having to go click, click click...


If I had found a way I would have done it and told you. I see you have
already submitted a bugzilla report on this. I thank you for that.
rpmdrake for 2007 is a downgrade as far as I am concerned, it only adds
complexity to what should be a simple process.

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walter mautner

For a while (when the "new" rpmdrake still was more then flakey) there
was "old-rpmdrake" or something like that around. Appears it's gone for
(no) good now. But, I changed to smart package manager which also allows
reinstalls for b0rked packages, and downgrades, and I feel happy with it.

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gopher

install old_rpmdrake. This will create files in /usr/sbin such as:
old_rpmdrake, old_rpmdrake-remove, old_drakrpm-update, and
old_MandrivaUpdate. For me at least I had to manually add them to the
menues to get the correct links. This info is thanks to replies in
Roberts thread in the club forum.

Goph

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stuart

I don't know how to remove it either...........But just like the others I
hate it..................a very retrograde step. If nothing else they could
at least leave us the choice of interfaces.

Regards

Stuart

robert m. riches jr.

Actually, I have only posted to this newsgroup and posted a
new topic in the 'Mandriva Software' forum. One of the
replies in the forum indicates Mandriva knew of all the
negative response to this hideous reduction in functionality
but stuck with their crayonish icons anyway. I'm debating
whether it would be beneficial to file a bug report. If
somebody beats me to filing it, that's fine, too. Who
knows, there may already be one filed by someone else, but I
couldn't find it.

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james j. dines

The approach mimics SuSE'

Let's hope they don't continue down the slipper slope of that behavior ...

That being said, if they indeed intended it to work the way it does (and
*clearly* they do) then it is not a bug. There is however a way to file
a feature request using the same Bugzilla interface that you would use
to file a bug. Of course, if they are already well aware of the
situation, including the level of intense dislike it has generated, it
will be a wasted effort IMNSHO.

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jjim

I think your asking for a feature request....note if you are looking for a
specific item, just type it in the search...I agree I hate icons, that's
why I use blackbox, the real problem I see with that setup is that you
have to guess what category something is in or go through all of them.
Then again if you have a hard time with the category but know the name
then use the search...it would be nice for Mandriva to give us a list view. --
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