just d

Hi,

I'm just wondering if anybody has a rating chart for the programs like:

Ulead Studio
Pinnacle Studio
etc.?

I found yesterday that the price has dramatically fallen down for some kinds
of software in the stores around me and probably it's time to think about
something more serious than WMM2 for XP. But the software that I have been

What's preferable software with minimum errors are we having now to grab
video stream from DV, to create a nail-like storage with short movie parts
divided automatically by the software every time when we press start/stop
during shooting, etc.

I remember that Tony was writing about something else that he is using and
he likes this software.

So, any more or less full list of current video editting software would be
very helpful.

Thanks,
Dmitri

tony morgan

In message <kjhIc.923$3u2.140@fed1read01>, Just D <no@spam.please>
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It so much depends on how many "gizmos" you want to put in your movies,
as well as how much you are prepared to pay. Because of the difference
in pricing, you can't really compare like with like too readily. Having
said all that, at the lower end I'd come down firmly for Pure Motion's
Edit Studio, providing you buy the optional extra codec (which is of
very good quality). I've never liked Ulead's products - the end quality
doesn't seem too good. Pinnacle seem to have a habit of releasing
software with bugs and when they finally fix them all, they release a
new major version - and the bug-fixing cycle continues.

I've never been enthusiastic about Premiere, though some swear by it. If
money isn't an issue then I'd strongly recommend Vegas 5 with DVD
Architect 2. Loads of gizmos (if you feel the need) and with Premiere
you'd need to buy plug-ins for some of them. More importantly, it will
run happily on a minimal spec computer, 500 MHz CPU, 60 MB hard-disk,
and 128 MB RAM. Two things that I find particularly useful are the
ability to easily correct poor quality source material (to an extent of
course) and the excellent sound editor that is built-in. The sound
editor is SoundForge - something I've used as a stand-alone for some
time before it was fully integrated in Vegas 5. But Vegas needs DVD
Architect (or something else) for producing DVDs - but you can get a
bundle. I'm also reassured that Sony bought out Vegas from Sonic Foundry
- and is now promoting it in the professional marketplace, and is
intending to use as the software basis for their professional video
editing suites. Still, it is a lot of money - and it won't help you
produce great movies if you haven't learned to produce good video with
your camcorder (so it's not top of my recommendations for most people)
:-)

Full Vegas spec here:
http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/products/showproduct.asp?PID=914
--
Tony Morgan
http://www.rhylonline.com

adrian boliston

Good quality shooting of original footage *should* be what counts, but so
many programmes these days seem to encourage the use of "kewl"
effects/menus.

just d

Hi Adrian,

Having Canon GL2 it's not an issue . I'm also not a big fan of super digital
effects and menus, although I'm a professional programmer and know enough to
do that, but I prefer only required ones. But I need from the software all
the required things to make my movie using the original footage saved in DV
format on PC, combining it, slicing, adding sound, etc., and finally
compressing for a best view on DVD. All software that I have seen can't do
all required things that I want. That's why I'm still using WMM2, because
it's free and is a part of the operating system. It's buggy, poor, dies so
often, but it more or less works if I disable one processor for this
process.

So, I'm looking for a better software now...)

Thanks,
Dmitri

just d

Hi Tony,

Thank you for your answer. I know that you know why did I ask this question
here...)

I have already spent about 3 USD for these toys...) Excluding PC, of course,
because it's not only for video games...) If we skip this "gizmo range" it
would be good, sometimes it doesn't allow to discuss the obvious things...)


Just one zero difference or even less is not very valuable, especially if
one good software can replace a few worst.


I didn't test Pure Motions yet, but maybe it's from more or less the same
price range. I'll see. Thanks.


I'm currently using WMM2 for XP Pro but it has a few problems that I can't
accept. The list is not so long but long enough to think about something
else. I have already tested Ulead and Pinnacle that I downloaded from their
web sites to hate both products. You're right about bugs and abilities. Very
poor emotions after these testings.


I don't care of computer now - IPIV-3.2HT/1Gig/Radeon9600/60-7200/... should
be much more than enough.


That's very important especially if I repair my old ****og tapes.

It's not a problem to grab any sound and insert it, or to make a simple
combination of a few tracks. To do anything more or less powerful we'd
better to use anything else, but I'm currently not going to edit 5.1 or 7.1
sound. It's too much.


I produce my DVDs with Nero 6 - full package. It has codecs and everything I
need for that. But I suspect that it's not the best codec choice. The
quality is not perfect.

You know it depends. I'm not working for any studio and can't install a
functional rail road just to shoot something in movement, on the fly. But I
use a tripod if I feel that I need to do that and it helps me to get a
little bit better quality than from hands especially for a long static movie
like wedding, theatre, etc.


Thanks,
Dmitri

tony morgan

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If you let me know (specifically) what the "required things that you
want" are and I'll try to find the time to confirm that Vegas 5 will
deliver.

--
Tony Morgan
http://www.camcord.info

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Pinnacle Liquid Edition, superb software, backgroubd rendering and online tutorials for free!

tony morgan

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With more bugs than a hedgehog on a warm day.
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Tony Morgan
http://www.rhylonline.com

just d

Tony,

"Tony Morgan"

I have already downloaded a trial version and tried to play with it
yesterday. I will continue my games during this trial month. The first
emotion is good, but I still can't understand is it able to split the
original DV movie file into different shooting parts as WMM2 does? Maybe I
need to grab the movie with Vegas 5, and don't try to import the files that


I also can't understand if I mark and delete some fragment of movie why I
can't shift the right part automatically to the left to hide the deleted
fragment?

Thanks,
Dmitri

...jerry...

Tony, please don't talk about software that you no nothing about.