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1 21st November 07:59
paeÖamuçë¡Ëa¢ÙšŠw(
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Well, this should be interesting. It seems out of character for the
band to choose someone like him. He does have an interesting resume:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan...ic_producer%29

I see some connections that may have prompted his selection: Jackyl
(Brian); Get A Grip (Fairbairn); Blood, Sugar, Sex and Magik (Rick
Rubin).

The last time DC used an established producer from outside of their
camp (Rubin) it did not work very well. However, prior to that, they
were successful with Bruce.

Personally, I am looking forward to seeing what O’Brien does for
them. Admittedly, I don’t really listen to the type of music he has
produced (other than Rage). But honestly, I don’t think they had any
other option than to go in a new direction – both commercially and
artistically.

George served the band well in their formative years. But mother time
catches up with us all. I’m not sure he had the fire in his belly to
truly squeeze a good album out of the band. At their age and place in
life, it is probably much harder to get the principals to focus and
dedicate endless hours needed to achieve acceptable results. The art
doesn’t flow as freely from rich old men as it did when they were
young and full of spit and vinegar.

Which leads me to once again wonder if this was the problem with
Rubin? I have read over the years, that to varying degrees, Harry,
George, Mutt and Bruce were meticulous task masters. Especially Mutt
and Bruce. Those things Rubin is not. Nonetheless, Rubin has been
very successful with other bands, but apparently his approach did not
work very well with Messrs. Young and Young.

Can O’Brien keep them off the golf course and out of the bars long
enough fight through the tough parts? Or will it be another reunion
party where the band has fun but the results are below their
potential? You will recall that the band said they had a blast doing
SUL golfing and jamming out. Good for them – they’ve earned that
place in life. This is just me: I’d like a little angst in the
process if it will help them squeeze out one more good album. Just
sayin’.
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2 21st November 07:59
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It can go either way but with O´Brien at the helm there is a much
greater chance of something good. To be honest, I was dreading this
release until the producer was named and my expectations went from low
to not as low.
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3 21st November 07:59
goulash
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Brendan is working them hard alright and I don't think there's much time for
golf and bars.
Goulash

Well, this should be interesting. It seems out of character for the
band to choose someone like him. He does have an interesting resume:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan...ic_producer%29

I see some connections that may have prompted his selection: Jackyl
(Brian); Get A Grip (Fairbairn); Blood, Sugar, Sex and Magik (Rick
Rubin).

The last time DC used an established producer from outside of their
camp (Rubin) it did not work very well. However, prior to that, they
were successful with Bruce.

Personally, I am looking forward to seeing what O’Brien does for
them. Admittedly, I don’t really listen to the type of music he has
produced (other than Rage). But honestly, I don’t think they had any
other option than to go in a new direction – both commercially and
artistically.

George served the band well in their formative years. But mother time
catches up with us all. I’m not sure he had the fire in his belly to
truly squeeze a good album out of the band. At their age and place in
life, it is probably much harder to get the principals to focus and
dedicate endless hours needed to achieve acceptable results. The art
doesn’t flow as freely from rich old men as it did when they were
young and full of spit and vinegar.

Which leads me to once again wonder if this was the problem with
Rubin? I have read over the years, that to varying degrees, Harry,
George, Mutt and Bruce were meticulous task masters. Especially Mutt
and Bruce. Those things Rubin is not. Nonetheless, Rubin has been
very successful with other bands, but apparently his approach did not
work very well with Messrs. Young and Young.

Can O’Brien keep them off the golf course and out of the bars long
enough fight through the tough parts? Or will it be another reunion
party where the band has fun but the results are below their
potential? You will recall that the band said they had a blast doing
SUL golfing and jamming out. Good for them – they’ve earned that
place in life. This is just me: I’d like a little angst in the
process if it will help them squeeze out one more good album. Just
sayin’.
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4 21st November 07:59
randysharp
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I am curious as to how they are working them hard. Mal is usually a
pretty head strong guy that knows what he wants; and for the most
part, how to go about getting it done. We have all heard the stories
about him butting heads with Mutt during the BIB days; but, obviously
the end result speaks for itself. That being said, we really have
heard so little about those sessions; and what we have hears tends to
be the conflicts; which is normal.

So, if by working them hard means that he is really trying to push
them to get "more" then I think this is good news. Ultimately we will
all hear the result and that will be the final word.

While I look forward to hearing what is being done; I am trying to
temper my enthusiasm.

Cheers,

-r
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5 21st November 07:59
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I'm pretty curious, too. SUL could have been a very good album if they
worked harder on the songs. I guess the riffs are still there. They
had some very fine riffs on SUL. But they didn't seem to put much
effort into the arrangements and the song-structures, except maybe for
the titletrack, which had some nice ideas. That's why SUL is a shitty
album for AC/DC's standards. I hope O'Brien is the right man for that
kind of job. And he should tell Phil to put some fill in here and
there. I can't remember a single one on SUL. It's like he recorded one
drum-track for that album. Even the songs were all like in the same
tempo. I'm really looking forward to this album.

The Fistmaster
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6 21st November 07:59
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Yep, me too. Have The Stones given us another "Gimme Shelter" recently? The
Who another "Baba O'Reilly"?
Nope, so we ain't never gonna get another "Gone Shootin'" from AC/DC, are
we? SUL was purported to be the greatest DC album since FTATR <spit>, and it
wasn't. I actually prefer Ballbreaker with its dry production. IMO the
guitars, drums and bass sounded excellent on that record. The songwriting
let it down bigtime of course.

I'd be happier with an album of blues covers, a farewell club tour and a
hefty raid on the vaults every year from now on.
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7 21st November 08:00
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That’s my thought. SUL had potential in that it has some good parts.
However, the songs weren’t structured and refined as well as they
could have been.

I think the Youngs can write good parts. I just think they need help
structuring and arranging the stuff they write. At least this has
been the case since Bon passed away. Other than BIB, they really
haven’t been able to recreate the quality of song writing they had
with Bon, IMO. Bon wrote great lyrics; you can’t expect the Youngs
to do the same. However, they can still write great music, they just
need an outsider with a strong personality to help them refine and
develop their ideas, IMO. Lyrics? Ha – that went out the door with
Bon.

I don’t expect them to make a great album at this stage, but I think
they have a good album left in them given the right situation.


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8 21st November 08:00
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Well, this should be interesting. It seems out of character for the
band to choose someone like him. He does have an interesting resume:
<SNIP>

I can't expect the drums to be like they were on BIB and FTATR, but I hope
they dress it up just a bit more this time out. Ballbreaker and SUL were
kinda lame. There were problems with the song arrangement as all have said,
but for me, the dry white toast drumming really made it monotonous to the
extreme. I know a lot of people like that cave-man stuff, but I could do
with a little more sheen this time out.

Michael
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9 21st November 08:00
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I can't imagine they want to have another incident where they let some
photographer into the studio and all the track names are leaked on the
internet within two hours. In this day and age, the only secrecy is total
secrecy.
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10 21st November 08:00
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Were that to happen, what would be the negative consequence? We're just talking
about song TITLES, right? Not digital sound files of the songs themselves.
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