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1 18th March 05:17
derekabma
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One of the most common standards used here to diss certain Metallica
albums is that they're not really "metal" or not "thrash." If they
aren't, so what? Isn't the main thing whether it's just good music or
not?

Just becasue you like metal, doesn't mean you can't like anything
else, does it? Some of you must like classic rock or alternative rock.
Can you not judge the Load albums as being good hard rock albums, if
not metal.

Some of you must even like country or folk, if you're guitar oriented.
If Metallica came out with an album full of songs like Low Man's
Lyric, I would have to judge it a great folk album, even if it is
Metallica.
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2 18th March 05:17
wyrd
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Very true. When they produced Metal or Thrash they were very good at it,
when for whatever reason, they decieded to tackle rock music they did this quite badly.


Yep I do like classic rock, rock, heavy rock, heavy metal, blues.

That's just it, they are not good hard rock albums.


So what you are saying here is whatever Metallica produce you will always
consider it to be good, because it is Metallica, regardless of what is
sounds like.

Wyrd
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3 19th March 23:13
kamen-rider
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But...Load ****ed....and St. Anger ****ed even more. It has nothing to
do with being Metal or not (well, maybe a little), but the fact they
****ed.
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4 19th March 23:14
ray
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Not true. I like lots of music, but the good stuff.
Hell, I even started listening to Elvis to see what the commotion was.
Some of his stuff wasn't bad.

Metallica when they play Metal (hence the name) are awesome.
One of the best Metal bands ever.
Metallica as a "rock" band are average - maybe below average.
Metallica as a country/rap/folk band **** ass. I swear, if they
released another Mama Said I'll puke. You don't know how happy
I was when I heard St. Anger and couldn't find the kazoo.

I have nothing against bands trying different things...
they're artists after all... However, if they release it, they
better not mind if people tell them if it ****s or not.
Mama Said ****S. Most of Load/Reload ****S.
The production on St. Anger ****S.

Ray
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5 19th March 23:14
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On 11 Sep 2003 10:55:57 -0700, derekabma@hotmail.com (Derek Abma)

Stick around for a while and you'll understand that the fact its not
pounding metal is the least of the Loads problems. I like loads of
different syles of music and I can grasp an album that is not metal,
the trouble with the loads is they are just really really average song
wise. I really want to like the loads cos I love Metallica, but its just not possible!


So you'd judge it a great folk album before even hearing it?
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6 19th March 23:14
derekabma
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No. It's actually the opposite. I used the example Low Man's Lyric
because I think that's a great song, and Metallica just happened to
perform it. If a whole album was put out of songs of that calibre in a
similar style, I would like it, whether it was Metallica or another
band. I'll admit that I'm predisposed to giving music done by
Metallica a close listen because they've proven themselves a reliable
source of quality music over the last 20 years.
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7 19th March 23:15
wyrd
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I also had the same predisposition, then TBA came out, which was very weak
in places and then the Loads, awful in all places. I give them a chance
because once knew how to produce decent music.

Wyrd
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8 19th March 23:15
kamen-rider
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Metallica hasn't been quality in 13 years.
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9 21st March 17:14
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Load was a good album, to relax But yes St. anger ****ed.
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