Slumpy 2008-04-02 21:53:11
Now I love the guy, Gawd Bless ‘im and all that, but having just played all
the MSG versions back to back, poor Jimmy is feeling the excesses of the two
tours and is completely eclipsed by a very loud and very excellent piece of
bass-playing by Mr Jones during each solo. Now I wouldn’t want to cast
aspertions (sp?) but it would seem that any artist is hardly likely to want
to release anything that puts him in a bad light, or overshadows him, hence
the exclusion of any later versions of No Quarter.
I don’t blame him, I’d probably do the same if it my was /my/ project, /my/
hard work that had put it together, but that, Ladies and Gents, is my theory
for why you don’t get to bop along to OTHAFA, and I will welcome and ignore
any criticism thereofafter.
Traalfaz2 2008-04-02 21:53:14
Wir welle bleiwe wat mir sin
Slumpy 2008-04-02 21:53:16
Voicing an opinion as worthless as a wino at a wedding, munir postulated…
Well anyway, Us Persians, we love sand. Lots of it. Sand everywhere. In your
food, in your drink, all over your desk, I tell you, if it wasn’t for Sand
we’d all f*** off to Britain with the rest of them…;-)
Alex van starr 2008-04-03 01:12:58
Fair enough. How about an alternate theory (just to be difficult) – I
haven’t the benefit of either performance to refer to, but have a few
Pagey didn’t want to keep performances where Plant sings the song in a lower
register. I don’t think RP ever sang this one live in its proper key –
though I refer to my earlier caveat.
I’m surprised how on-key RP is on the DVD version of Black Dog – compared to
the other versions I have. As most people here will know, just because RP
sung a song one way on record, it’s no guarantee he could do the same thing
The 2003 Yes Australian Tour-site:
(with links to my others sites from there)
Stoobie 2008-04-03 01:13:12
S’posedly… Plant *could* do it very early on when they played it, but at
some point he damaged his voice and sang it in that different tone (which I
have become accustomed to, actually).
I am still looking for the boots that have it in the studio voicing 8)
Some incredible solos by Page from time to time on this one.
Slumpy 2008-04-03 01:13:28
Voicing an opinion as worthless as a wino at a wedding, Alex van Starrex
RP hit the high notes many times, especially through early 73, but after two
US tours, and European and British tour, no surorise he was a bit flakey.
Dpatrick 2008-04-03 06:45:18
The band always seemed to perform OTHAFA excellent during any show I
have, and it is a shame there has been no official live release of
this tune (beside HTWWW) where the midbreak has been
expanded/funkified from the original studio version.
Traalfaz2 2008-04-03 06:45:20
one question I’ve always wondered, why did Jimmy change the opening riff for
the live shows vs. the studio cut? Not that I don’t like the way he plays it
thus, in fact I’ve started doing it his way too, but my ears keep wanting to
hear it the way the radio plays it…
Wir welle bleiwe wat mir sin
Billmmm75 2008-04-03 06:45:22
Pagey defo shoulda shitcanned the acoustic set from Earls & put OTHAFA
& NQ from MSG on the DVD. 100% right about that, mate.
Have a good weekend everybody.
Gchampa354 2008-04-03 12:04:01
Or Page could’ve just taken more from the Earls Court set such as a live
version of OTHAFA from that set. I’m just disappointed that there is no live
footage of OTHAFA on the new DVD.
Slumpy 2008-04-03 12:04:07
Voicing an opinion as worthless as a wino at a wedding, GChampa354
I was surprised more than disappointed. As has well been discussed already,
there was only so much to work with, and it /was/ JP’s project, so the
choice would have been his. But that funky solo section was too good to
leave out – just have to keep my fingers crossed and play dodgy flakey DVD’s