mark gordon

Can anyone here "guess" as to the ratio of people who view Blazerkohl's eBay
posts and those that actually bid on his/her auctions?
The bigger question: who in their right mind would want to stop by this
group first, in order to see what Blazer (or any other eBay seller here) is
selling and then travel to eBay to bid on his/her auctions? Wouldn't they
already be customers and have bookmarked his/her list? Isn't it a fallacy to
adhere to the notion that the majority of comic collectors shopping on eBay
would stop by RACM first? Do people like Blazer actually believe this?
I sell on eBay. I POST comics here. The kettle isn't black.
If you want to generate an auction on RACM, you can do it...on RACM. I've
seen it done years ago and with much success.
What you have now is sellers like Blazer, who disregard what this group is
REALLY about and what the past and present moderators have passed down to
their successors: a group that buys, sells and trades comic books.
Sorry...but eBay isn¹t in that equation.
Those of us who venture here on RACM are met with automated posts from
sellers who really don't know what their true numbers are. If you aren't
seeing new customers coming into eBay through RACM (and in all honesty who
asks?), then perhaps you need to refrain from posting eBay auctions here.
This isn't eBay.
If you want to bid on eBay....go to eBay. If you want to sell on
eBay....THEN SELL ON EBAY!


Mark Gordon

blazerk0hl

Since you chose to make this a public rant, I'll respond accordingly. Just so
we are on even ground - here is the "letter" I received from you through Ebay
and through one of my auctions:

"I notice you post on RACM extensively (even though it's not a newssgroup for
eBay posts) and would like to know if you can gauge your sales from the
responses you receive from RACM. While disregarding the rules and regulations
of RACM by posting dozens of posts ad nauseum, you probably have an automated
system to posting on RACM. I would argue that you have no idea what the ratio
is of people actually reading your RACM posts to those bidders who conduct
searches and your regular eBay customers. Even if you receive no support from
your posts on RACM, or cannot decide whether posting is beneficial to your
auctions; your continued disregard to the character of RACM will be noticed and
filtered."

Your statement "even though it's not a newssgroup for eBay posts" is false.
Here, straight from the FAQ:

2. Please include the name of the web auction site in the subject line of your
post.
Your subject line should start with the name of the auction service you are
using. For example, an eBay post could start with something like "eBay:",
"[ebay]", or "(EBAY)" for identification purposes.
Do not use the abbreviations "FS" (for sale) or "FA" (for auction) in the
subject line when your item is not being sold or auctioned directly through the
newsgroup.

So according to that "rule" I am more in keeping with the newsgroups policies
than most posters when it comes to ebay.

You also falsely assume I have an automated system for posting - I just set up
my scanner this week, so tech. is not on my side.

Please keep your agendas to yourself. There is a filter button - use it.

Peter

PS/ Your letter to me through Ebay has nothing to do with an auction - so it is
harrasment and will be dealt with as such.

blazerk0hl

Well, after some searching on Google, I find that Mark's current rant is
nothing new to this board. So I will post a reply from Bart Gerardi who seems
to be a great source of reference for Marketplace/FAQ/postings, etc. Bart
states, in response to Mark:

"As far as I am concerned, all eBay posts are 100% on topic, as they are
solitications to sell comics or comics
related material. End of story."

Since you obviously have a beef with any and all Ebay posters, I believe you
should look back at all the other times you tried to bring up such arguments.
All my postings have EBAY at the front - you choose to either ignore or filter.


Peter

alamocitycomics

You still didn't answer the question.

jason michael

I can tell you that I've bought comics on ebay after seeing notices posted
on here.

Jason

mark gordon

But Jason...if you're looking for a specific comic...do you come here first
to see what the seller's are peddling on eBay or do you go directly to the
eBay site to search?

My point: why post and come to RACM when eBay is accessible to everyone in
the world.

If you purchase a new vehicle from the dealership, do you also purchase
gasoline from them or do you drive to where the gasoline is?

stewart vernon

I try and stay out of the flame wars myself... I don't flame folks
for advertising their eBay items here... but I choose not to
advertise my own eBay items here, but rather to post short (or
sometimes long) lists of for sale items and a link to my Web site
from time to time.

That said...

File me under the "confused" heading too... I know where eBay is,
have it bookmarked and everything. When I want to look for
something on eBay, I go to eBay and look. With the internet being
what it is today, I suspect most people look on the Web before
"slumming" it down here in the Usenet newsgroups with the rest of
us... so I've always figured a posting here pointing to an eBay
link was mostly useless, since anyone who might not know I exist
but would be willing to consider buying something off eBay from
me... would already be looking at eBay and find me there before
they ever got here and saw a post from me.

When I make for sale posts here... I assume I'm talking to an
audience who either doesn't like/want to deal through eBay OR by
some odd coincidence actually isn't aware of eBay.

I've found more long-term customers through Usenet, incidentally,
buying and selling... than I have through eBay, even though I
admittedly found a larger audience in eBay and an audience for
some of the more eclectic parts of my collection.

-Stewart
Stewart's Comics (comics@indenter.com)
http://www.indenter.com/comics

blazerk0hl

I find it interesting that someone with the ebay ID of "alamocitycomics" is
complaining when a brief view of the FAQ reads:

"If you have any one of the following, you are considered a Commercial
poster and should identify yourself as such.
- A legal do***ent designating yourself or partners as a business
intending to sell comic books.
- Retail Tax License (or similar license allowing you to buy comics at
wholesale).
- An account with a major comic distributor (Diamond, Capital, etc.)

NOTE: You need not own an actual comic store to be considered Commercial.
UseNet is not a commercial advertising network. There is a separate
hierarchy entirely, the biz.* hierarchy, which handles business advertising.
The rec.* hierarchy IS NOT INTENDED FOR COMMERCIAL POSTINGS AND ALL SUCH
POSTINGS SHOULD BE KEPT TO A MINIMUM."

So those 25 posts you made back in January - should they be scrutinzed as well?

Peter

PS/ Apologizing to the rest of the group for even giving this another minute of
attention.

mark gordon

I could not have said it better myself.
Here's to slumming!


Mark

mark gordon

No Peter I suggest your 252 eBay posts from December 11 to January 11 should
be scrutinized.

You have it all wrong Pete. I don't mind you posting your wares at the
beginning of your auction week. It gets on my nerves when you continue
throughout the week with the "3 days left", "1 day left", "Final Hour Left"
and "going going gone" posts. And not the requested ten or so posts, but
twenty or more.

Hell, I figured if Bart or whomever is moderating this group doesn't mind
you posting ad nauseum, then they won't mind me posting just as many "VALID"
posts.

However, you still haven't answered the question.

You don't have a right to post your eBay wares here...you have the privilege
Pete. Two different mind-sets.

If you aren't seeing a spike in sales from the slumlords down here, then why
post here? Consider all of "us" for a change.

You can quote all the Bart conversations, Google me and make comments about
my selling on ebay...doesn't phase me.

You're the one I'm calling out and I'm still waiting on an answer.


Mark