Mark gordon 2012-07-10 03:54:06
Can anyone here “guess” as to the ratio of people who view Blazerkohl’s eBay
posts and those that actually bid on his/her auctions?
The bigger question: who in their right mind would want to stop by this
group first, in order to see what Blazer (or any other eBay seller here) is
selling and then travel to eBay to bid on his/her auctions? Wouldn’t they
already be customers and have bookmarked his/her list? Isn’t it a fallacy to
adhere to the notion that the majority of comic collectors shopping on eBay
would stop by RACM first? Do people like Blazer actually believe this?
I sell on eBay. I POST comics here. The kettle isn’t black.
If you want to generate an auction on RACM, you can do it…on RACM. I’ve
seen it done years ago and with much success.
What you have now is sellers like Blazer, who disregard what this group is
REALLY about and what the past and present moderators have passed down to
their successors: a group that buys, sells and trades comic books.
Sorry…but eBay isn t in that equation.
Those of us who venture here on RACM are met with automated posts from
sellers who really don’t know what their true numbers are. If you aren’t
seeing new customers coming into eBay through RACM (and in all honesty who
asks?), then perhaps you need to refrain from posting eBay auctions here.
This isn’t eBay.
If you want to bid on eBay….go to eBay. If you want to sell on
eBay….THEN SELL ON EBAY!
Blazerk0hl 2012-07-10 19:15:15
Since you chose to make this a public rant, I’ll respond accordingly. Just so
we are on even ground – here is the “letter” I received from you through Ebay
and through one of my auctions:
“I notice you post on RACM extensively (even though it’s not a newssgroup for
eBay posts) and would like to know if you can gauge your sales from the
responses you receive from RACM. While disregarding the rules and regulations
of RACM by posting dozens of posts ad nauseum, you probably have an automated
system to posting on RACM. I would argue that you have no idea what the ratio
is of people actually reading your RACM posts to those bidders who conduct
searches and your regular eBay customers. Even if you receive no support from
your posts on RACM, or cannot decide whether posting is beneficial to your
auctions; your continued disregard to the character of RACM will be noticed and
Your statement “even though it’s not a newssgroup for eBay posts” is false.
Here, straight from the FAQ:
2. Please include the name of the web auction site in the subject line of your
Your subject line should start with the name of the auction service you are
using. For example, an eBay post could start with something like “eBay:”,
“[ebay]”, or “(EBAY)” for identification purposes.
Do not use the abbreviations “FS” (for sale) or “FA” (for auction) in the
subject line when your item is not being sold or auctioned directly through the
So according to that “rule” I am more in keeping with the newsgroups policies
than most posters when it comes to ebay.
You also falsely assume I have an automated system for posting – I just set up
my scanner this week, so tech. is not on my side.
Please keep your agendas to yourself. There is a filter button – use it.
PS/ Your letter to me through Ebay has nothing to do with an auction – so it is
harrasment and will be dealt with as such.
Blazerk0hl 2012-07-10 19:15:18
Well, after some searching on Google, I find that Mark’s current rant is
nothing new to this board. So I will post a reply from Bart Gerardi who seems
to be a great source of reference for Marketplace/FAQ/postings, etc. Bart
states, in response to Mark:
“As far as I am concerned, all eBay posts are 100% on topic, as they are
solitications to sell comics or comics
related material. End of story.”
Since you obviously have a beef with any and all Ebay posters, I believe you
should look back at all the other times you tried to bring up such arguments.
All my postings have EBAY at the front – you choose to either ignore or filter.
Alamocitycomic 2012-07-10 19:16:06
You still didn’t answer the question.
Jason michael 2012-07-10 19:16:13
I can tell you that I’ve bought comics on ebay after seeing notices posted
Mark gordon 2012-07-10 19:16:18
But Jason…if you’re looking for a specific comic…do you come here first
to see what the seller’s are peddling on eBay or do you go directly to the
eBay site to search?
My point: why post and come to RACM when eBay is accessible to everyone in
If you purchase a new vehicle from the dealership, do you also purchase
gasoline from them or do you drive to where the gasoline is?
Stewart vernon 2012-07-10 19:16:20
I try and stay out of the flame wars myself… I don’t flame folks
for advertising their eBay items here… but I choose not to
advertise my own eBay items here, but rather to post short (or
sometimes long) lists of for sale items and a link to my Web site
from time to time.
File me under the “confused” heading too… I know where eBay is,
have it bookmarked and everything. When I want to look for
something on eBay, I go to eBay and look. With the internet being
what it is today, I suspect most people look on the Web before
“slumming” it down here in the Usenet newsgroups with the rest of
us… so I’ve always figured a posting here pointing to an eBay
link was mostly useless, since anyone who might not know I exist
but would be willing to consider buying something off eBay from
me… would already be looking at eBay and find me there before
they ever got here and saw a post from me.
When I make for sale posts here… I assume I’m talking to an
audience who either doesn’t like/want to deal through eBay OR by
some odd coincidence actually isn’t aware of eBay.
I’ve found more long-term customers through Usenet, incidentally,
buying and selling… than I have through eBay, even though I
admittedly found a larger audience in eBay and an audience for
some of the more eclectic parts of my collection.
Stewart’s Comics (email@example.com)
Blazerk0hl 2012-07-10 19:16:25
I find it interesting that someone with the ebay ID of “alamocitycomics” is
complaining when a brief view of the FAQ reads:
“If you have any one of the following, you are considered a Commercial
poster and should identify yourself as such.
– A legal document designating yourself or partners as a business
intending to sell comic books.
– Retail Tax License (or similar license allowing you to buy comics at
– An account with a major comic distributor (Diamond, Capital, etc.)
NOTE: You need not own an actual comic store to be considered Commercial.
UseNet is not a commercial advertising network. There is a separate
hierarchy entirely, the biz.* hierarchy, which handles business advertising.
The rec.* hierarchy IS NOT INTENDED FOR COMMERCIAL POSTINGS AND ALL SUCH
POSTINGS SHOULD BE KEPT TO A MINIMUM.”
So those 25 posts you made back in January – should they be scrutinzed as well?
PS/ Apologizing to the rest of the group for even giving this another minute of
Mark gordon 2012-07-10 19:16:27
I could not have said it better myself.
Here’s to slumming!
Mark gordon 2012-07-10 19:16:30
No Peter I suggest your 252 eBay posts from December 11 to January 11 should
You have it all wrong Pete. I don’t mind you posting your wares at the
beginning of your auction week. It gets on my nerves when you continue
throughout the week with the “3 days left”, “1 day left”, “Final Hour Left”
and “going going gone” posts. And not the requested ten or so posts, but
twenty or more.
H***, I figured if Bart or whomever is moderating this group doesn’t mind
you posting ad nauseum, then they won’t mind me posting just as many “VALID”
However, you still haven’t answered the question.
You don’t have a right to post your eBay wares here…you have the privilege
Pete. Two different mind-sets.
If you aren’t seeing a spike in sales from the slumlords down here, then why
post here? Consider all of “us” for a change.
You can quote all the Bart conversations, Google me and make comments about
my selling on ebay…doesn’t phase me.
You’re the one I’m calling out and I’m still waiting on an answer.
Blazerk0hl 2012-07-10 19:16:33
I post on the first day and the last. I have never, EVER posted in between. Try
and find any post of mine that has “3 days left”. You won’t. Or even “Final
Hour”. You won’t. I post on the first day and then on the last with
“24hoursleft Ebay” or “lastday ebay”. What you may think is a post inbetween
could very well be a whole new batch of auctions. So your accusation is false
again. Again, calling the kettle black Mr. Pot is not good for your arguement.
Again I refer to the FAQ: “Please understand that these guidelines are just
that. There are no mandatory rules for posting to unmoderated newsgroups and
typically users are free to post in whatever style they wish. However,
guidelines should ensure that your auction posts are complete, professional,
and well received (though there is no way to guarantee that anyone will be
in what you are selling!)”
I follow the “rules”. Ebay posts are “allowed”. And I find this little bit
interesting from 1998:
“I do auction my comics on RACM. In the subject it states first and foremost:
EBAY UPDATE. You figure it out. I may not speak for the other ebay auctioneers,
but I don’t use smokescreens to peddle my wares. I’ve a great following thanks
to RACM. I just made it a point to graduate to
ebay. I’ve made more contacts (friendlier) and more money for my comics than on
Author of that little quote? Mark Gordon. Unlike you however, I don’t go out of
my way to harrass people.
That’s pretty sad. Especially considering your history on this board and the
simple fact that I don’t owe you anything.
Oh by the way – stay out of mailbox. Also from Mark in my email today:
“If you’d prefer to take this off-post, I’d be most happy to discuss this with
Your choice. Mark”
You act like I’m the one that started this discussion. I don’t need to be
educated by the likes of you. I’ve done my homework.
PS/ Look for new Ebay posts going up tonite!
Jason michael 2012-07-10 19:16:35
No, if I want a specific comic I search ebay first. I just check the posts
here to see if there might be something I’m looking for. I have a want list
of several hundred (thousand?) titles. Obviously I don’t search for every
specific item on ebay everyday. Sometimes I see things here that I forgot I
was looking for. It’s more of a trigger for my memory than anything else.
I’m getting old and forgetful. It certainly doesn’t bother me if someone
posts here for an ebay auction.
I don’t think that they’re mutually exclusive or that one makes the other reduntant.
Whenever I’ve bought a vehicle it comes with a full tank of gas. 🙂
I don’t really see the parallels between posting on newsgroups and buying a
Mark gordon 2012-07-10 19:16:38
It appears Pete works for the Google FBI.
What can you find, say, around 1996?
Mark gordon 2012-07-10 19:16:43
You still haven’t answered the question, Pete.