davide laneri

Hello everybody,

I have just been diagnosed with milk allergy, eggs allergy and apple
allergy.

Basically I have to change completely my diet!!!

I am really new to allergies and I was wondering whether you could
answer some of my questions:

- If allergic to milk can I eat other milk related products such as
cheese, yoghurt, cakes, biscuits (that contain milk derivatives)?
and does it matter whether it is cooked (maybe boiled) or not?

- same questions for eggs really!!!

- should I do a more extensive allergy test now that I know I have some
allergies? The test I did was general, about the most common allergens

- what products are there in the market that can replace milk and eggs?

- is the quantity of allergic food important? Can I eat food that only
contains small quantity of milk or/and eggs?

(I am allergic not intolerant)


Basically I am now checking all the labels when I go food shopping and
it seems like I cannot eat much!! :-(

Thanks a lot in advance for your replies, and feel free to give me any
advise you like.

Thank you very much.


Davide.

kevles

Hi --

No, you should not partake of your allergens in ANY form: not cooked
in, not in small quantities, not in alternate forms (like cheese or
butter). Go 100% cold turkey for a while and see if you really start to
feel better. You probably will!

--Beth Kevles
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http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic
Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.

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like me to reply.

jack campin - bogus address

How?

If it was by elimination testing, or if you had an unmistakable
allergic attack like anaphylaxis, take the result seriously. If
it was some other test, remember they are not always accurate,
and some are worthless. There is a HUGE difference between
ending up in hospital on a ventilator after a pizza and having
a Vega "test" done at a hairdresser's.


Depends on what kind of milk allergy you've got, and your answer to
that will depend on how you were diagnosed.


There is no way to process egg to make it less allergenic, but some
people are specifically allergic to egg yolk and and okay with
things made from albumen. Again, you need to tell us how you were
diagnosed.

For a genuine allergy, no. Some people with milk allergy will die
from a few milligrams. Intolerances are different.

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julie bove

Nope. You need to avoid all foods containing dairy products and egg.
Beware of anything with lecithin unless you know the source. It could be
eggs.

Now some people claim they can eat ghee if they have a dairy allergy.
That's not a chance I'm willing to take so I've never tried it.


Would probably be a good idea.

For milk you can use soy milk, rice milk, almond milk, hazlenut milk, hemp
milk, Vance's Dari free or in some cases, water or broth. For mashed
potatoes, I use broth. If I am making beef, I use beef broth. For chicken,
chicken broth. Or I might use vegetable broth. For a buttery flavor, I use
avocado oil.

To pop popcorn, I use coconut oil.

For baking biscuits and such, plain water is a good sub.

There is rice based cheese available at some health food stores and other
places. Make sure you get the Vegan kind that doesn't contain casein.
There is a parmesan substitute called Parma that is good. If you are
craving macaroni and cheese you can have products from Roads End Organics
such as Mac and Chreese. They also make Nacho Chreese sauce. Namaste Foods
makes Say Cheeze, a mac and cheese substitute.

For the eggs, you can use tofu in some cases. Or Ener-G egg replaces. A
mix of ground flax and water works well in things like meatloaf or baked
items that are hearty in texture. In some cases you can use applesauce.

Beware of breads. Many contain eggs or milk. Beware of cold cuts. Some
contain milk. Always read the packages.

Enjoy Life Foods makes a line of baked goods and cereals that are free of
all allergens. They also make dairy free chocolate chips.


Nope. For me, even a shred of cheese that accidentally got into my salad
and was subsequentally picked off is enough to make me sick.

You need total avoidance and that includes cosmetics too. Some shampoos
contain egg or milk. Some soaps do too. Such as milk and honey. Read the
ingredients on those things too.

Regular pasta either contains egg or is processed in a plant that uses egg.
There are other pastas available such as rice, corn or quinoa. Also beware
of canned and boxed soups. Many contain egg or milk. Even Campbell's
Chicken and Rice has milk. Why? Doesn't make sense. Shelton's makes a
Chicken and Wild Rice. It's really good.


It gets easier with time. And if you make the food from scratch, there is more to choose from.


Also be wary of restaurant foods. You may find that you can't eat French
fries that were fried in the same oil as onion rings or fried fish. Usually
egg or milk is used as a coating. I seem to be okay with them but some
people are not. McDonald's fries contain milk so you probably shouldn't eat
those either. AFAIK, the other fast food places are safe except for
possible cross contamination issues. Some places use a dedicated fryer just
for their fries. Chicken at a fast food place often contains milk. I don't
know why. You'll probably do best in dining out at a place that makes its
food from scratch. Don't be afraid to tell the server that you have food
allergies. Better safe than sorry.

You might also consider ordering some foods online. I do that all the time.
Daughter and I both have food allergies. Here's one good place. http://www.missroben.com/

davide laneri

Hi Jack,

for about 2 years I had a lot of problems such as blocked nose, running
nose, sneezing all the time, headache, swollen eyes until the point
where I completely lost my sense of smell, I could not breath properly
especially at night and my eyes were almost closed every time I woke up
and real difficulties in concentrating. Of course this is nothing
compared to anaphylactic attacks but it made my life miserable.
I tried many many things and I saw many doctors with no results. Very
recently one of them made me do (don't know why it took so long) a blood
test for allergens (or something like that) it was general, for inhaling
agents (like pollens and pollution ...), dust mites, graminaceous and
other things. I only resulted allergic to milk eggs and apples.
I am at the moment on a trial using cortisone nasal spray and
antistaminic tablets. I feel much much better. I feel like a normal
person again.

Thanks.

Davide.

davide laneri

Hello Judy,

thank you very much for your reply.

Your words scared me a bit because it looks like I have to completely
avoid any kind of contact with milk, eggs and apples (I loved cheese!!!!
:-( but at the same time they made me realize that you can have a
normal life (almost normal).

This morning I was opening my soy milk and I read the label (even though
it's bloody soy milk!!!) and it said 3% concentrated apple juice!!! I
cannot believe this. Apple juice in soy milk.
I'm a bit depressed but I'm sure I'll be fine soon when I'll get used to it.

Anyway your reply was really really helpful you saved me a lot of time I
would have spent asking around and surfing the net. Thanks.

Unfortunately I live in UK ( I'm Italian though) and it would be too
expensive to get food from the website you suggested but surely they
have something similar over here.

For the further food allergy tests I should do can you suggest any
particular one?


Thank you so much Julie.

Davide.


P.S. I printed out your reply for reference. :-)

julie bove

I had the RAST test done. Not sure if it is better than any others. The
Dr. had me fill out a form to find out what my typical diet was. That way
he knew what to test for.

jay

You may find the following article interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis

davide laneri

Hello everybody,

I have just been diagnosed with milk allergy, eggs allergy and apple
allergy.

Basically I have to change completely my diet!!!

I am really new to allergies and I was wondering whether you could
answer some of my questions:

- If allergic to milk can I eat other milk related products such as
cheese, yoghurt, cakes, biscuits (that contain milk derivatives)?
and does it matter whether it is cooked (maybe boiled) or not?

- same questions for eggs really!!!

- should I do a more extensive allergy test now that I know I have some
allergies? The test I did was general, about the most common allergens

- what products are there in the market that can replace milk and eggs?

Basically I am now checking all the labels when I go food shopping and
it seems like I cannot eat much!! :-(

Thanks a lot in advance for your replies, and feel free to give me any
advise you like.

Thank you very much.


Davide.

Hi Davide,

Oh my, milk and eggs, dang!!!! I have the same allergies - except the
apple, mine is berries with seeds,

I use soy products for my mik substitute - I just watch the labels and
avoid the casein and whey. Being allergic is different than being
lactose intolerant according to my ENT.

As far as the egg, are you allergic to both the white and the yolk?
I'm allergic to both and I found a great substitute for baking called
'EnerG' egg replacement and it does not contain any dairy derivatives
either. I still miss my omlets and there is no substitute that I've
found for that one :0)

My ENT told me to stay off of them for a year and then try a little
and reaction is in the first hour. If you drink a glass of mile and
the reaction is not to strong then I could have a glass maybe once
during the week. I've been off all the food allergens for a year and
I still get the reaction so I just avoid them otherwise my body stays
in the inflamed state and it's not worth it.

Best wishes on changing your lifestyle when it comes to food - it was
a real eye opener for me.... especially when it came to baked goods!!
I'm down 50 pounds though!

:0)carol