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1 20th November 11:05
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I've been reading a bit about fungus and IBS and how it
relates to allergic reactions. One theory suggested that
if the bowels become overtaken with fungus that immune
system goes crazy trying to fight it off, which can cause
allergies to fungus based substances. Now if that is the
case that would make sense that sinusitis could be a fungal
problem like the mayo clinic suggests. They claim in
certain individuals (they don't know who) that the
immune system overreacts to normally occurring fungus
in the sinuses. This can cause sinusitis/nasal polyps.
What if this was because in these individuals, they
had systemic fungal infections?
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2 20th November 11:05
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I thought the latest theory was that IBS might be caused by an imbalance
of bacteria in the bowel, not fungus.


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3 20th November 11:05
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That might be the latest but there is plenty of talk about
IBS and fungus. Quite possible that IBS has multiple causes
just like many believe about sinusitis.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search
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4 20th November 11:05
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I tried this URL, but all the hits it returned seemed to come from the
world of "alternative" medicine. I didn't see any scientific studies
from research institutions that suggested a connection between IBS and
fungus. Nor did I see any mainstream gastroenterologists who claimed
that IBS and fungus are related.

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5 20th November 11:05
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Nope... Just like 15 years ago you wouldn't have found anything
relating bacteria and ulcers except by the "quacks".
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6 20th November 11:05
steven litvintchouk
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That is not true.

The theory that H. Pylori was responsible for ulcers, was first put
forth by a reputable pathologist, Dr. Robin Warren, in conjunction with
a physician colleague, Dr. Robin Marshall. Together they spent 10 years
doing real, legitimate, peer-reviewed scientific research to prove their
theory. It just took a long time to amass sufficiently convincing
scientific evidence, that's all.

That's quite different from some publicly accessible website putting out
some half-baked theory, totally unsupported by any peer-reviewed
scientific research, immediately followed by a pitch for some alleged
remedy to be foisted on desperate ill people.


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who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed
at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
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7 20th November 11:06
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Jens Ponikau from Mayo Clinic would agree with you:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/search-bool.html

and search "Ponikau" under "inventor name" to see all his patents.

United States Patent 6,555,566
Ponikau April 29, 2003

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Methods and materials for treating and preventing inflammation of
mucosal tissue


Abstract
The invention involves methods and materials for treating and
preventing non-invasive fungus-induced mucositis. Specifically, the
invention involves administrating an antifungal agent such that it
contact mucus in an amount, at a frequency, and for a duration
effective to prevent, reduce, or eliminate non-invasive fungus-induced
rhinosinusitis. This invention also provides methods and materials for
diagnosing non-invasive fungus-induced rhinosinusitis and culturing
non-invasive fungus from a mammalian mucus sample as well as specific
antifungal formulations and medical devices for treating and
preventing non-invasive fungus-induced rhinosinusitis. In addition,
the invention provides methods and materials for treating and
preventing other non-invasive fungus-induced mucositis conditions such
as chronic otitis media, chronic colitis, and Crohn's disease.
Further, the invention involves methods and materials for treating and
preventing chronic asthma symptoms.
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8 20th November 11:06
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I'm sure there were plenty calling them quacks at the time. Look
at how many people call Dr. Mirkin a quack. My wife did a research
paper in pharmacy school on ulcers 15-20 years ago. From the papers
she read, she proposed that bacteria caused ulcers. Her professor
gave her a D saying it was complete nonsense.
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9 20th November 11:06
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Also I'd like to add that the nasal fungal theory is called quackery
by many ent's. But lets say it is true. Lets say that the immune
system for some reason is attacking normally occurring fungus in
the sinuses of some individuals. Seems logical to me that the
immune response could be brought on by a fungal infection somewhere
else in the body. I know that if I ingest something that I am
allergic to my body can react. All theories, quacks, and professionals
aside... what would your arguement be against a connection based on
what you know about the immune system?
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