kaye301

Um, that's what I thought--yours and most of the other husbands who have posted
here ;-)

mary fisher

joking!)

Seems to have been ineffective though :-(

Mary

mary fisher

I'll remove mine next time we meet. Mary

kaye301

decades. We do not yet know the full impact of the modern sneaker.
Those who grew up wearing those shoes constantly are only now reaching
their 30's. >>

We also don't know the full impact of environmental pollutants, either, or the
effect of fumes/gases from man-made products (i.e. plastics) which are of much
greater risk.
If anything, as far as shoes go, modern sneakers are thought to be much better
for ones feet because of flexibility than previous 'hard' shoes.

<< Therefore,
something else is hindering the ability of overweight people to lose
excess fat, and the habitual use of shoes is a candidate.>>

Yes, that's right but that is primarily due to continued eating and not
changing eating habits. People are more likely to engage in long-term
exercise, including walking--with shoes than without them.
<< Have you ever tried to bend a toddler's sneaker in half? >>

Yes, actually our pediatrician did it when showing me why it was better for my
childrens' first shoes to be sneakers than hard-sold shoes.

<<If you
cannot do it with two strong hands, then what kind of a stressful
event is that for a 1-year-old learning to walk in such shoes? >>

If a toddler is under stress from any discomfort, they make it known loud and
clear, immediately.

<< try walking around in a 3 or 4 inch platform shoe that weighs at
least a couple of pounds. Be sure and take 20,000 steps every single
day for several years, and keep track of your weight, your blood
pressure, your cholesterol, your mood, your blood glucose level, your
lung capacity, and even the quality of your vision.>>

Well, I have never worn platform shoes and rarely wore heels of any kind--but
still got cancer and multiple sclerosis. My shoes or posture--which by the
way--is excellent had nothing to do with it. Wearing high heels can cause
back and foot problems for some--there is no denying that, but those women who
have such do NOT have a higher risk of developing breast cancer than those who
don't Period.

<<You noted that life expectancies are lower in regions that wear less
footwear. Please keep in mind that most degenerative disease that
affects young people, occurs rarely in these regions. >>

They also have less medical care and less chance of being diagnosed and/or
accurately diagnosed for anything that might be going on.

<<You do not have
to be in your 30's or 40's to get multiple sclerosis, arthritis,
depression, asthma, diabetes, and obesity. >>

True, my child developed asthma as a baby before she ever wore shoes...and I
got M.S. in my early 20's when I was at my healthiest and had worn heels
probably only once--to senior prom--and they were not very high...

kaye301

perservative on them when they're made, and it's the same chemical you
mentioned in your post >>

These are most dangerous when they are 'new' and have that odor in them. It
was quite stupid of me to have done what I did--I lay on my back inside the
cupboards scrubbing them down. I was quite angry that they hadn't used real
wood, especially because I knew and was concerned about their potential danger
to begin with. Knowing that, it was definately not smart of me to do what I
did.
As far as the breast cancer, I am not so sure that would have caused the
lobular or DCIS--but I am wondering if it was responsible for the IBC
(inflammatory breast cancer) and helping or causing the other two cancers to be
so aggressive. In fact I don't know if I mentioned it but the area we live in
has one of the highest rates of breast cancer, and also one of the highest
rates of IBC.
As I mentioned I developed a weird cough and rash at the same time or right
afterwards. My symptoms corresponded to those listed for formaldehyde
poisoning, and I was definately at risk for that at the time.

Excellent point. Breast cancer has indeed been around for thousands
of years, and one of the earliest records dates back to ancient Egypt
where our modern day diets, pollution, toxins, chemicals, cars, bras
and beds were not found. Pointed-toe shoes, however, have been worn
for thousands of years, and were most certainly worn in Egypt during
the time of that breast cancer record.


I have found that inappropriately sized shoes, especially ones that
constrict the free motion of the toes, can be aggravating to the
entire body, and may thus influence mood, hormonal balance and
internal chemistry.

kaye301

after her dx. Interestingly, the cancer never went to her lungs...>>

I should add that as far as we know the cancer didn't go to her lungs. It was
in her bones and did go to her brain--but that could be due to the type of
breast cancer she had. I don't know for sure but wouldn't be surprised if it
was lobular, which I have, which has a propensity to show that pattern of
metastases. In addition, my aunt (her younger sister) who has breast cancer
got a recurrence on the other side. She does know what type she has, but I
wouldn't be surprised if it is lobular.
And as far as smoking is concerned, I am not condoning or excusing it in either
way. I don't smoke and never have and have a really hard time being around it.
Fortunately, I live in one of the states that was more environmentally
concerned in this way--and smoking in restaurants and other public buildings is
not allowed. I grew up with 2nd hand smoke, and once I moved away (starting in
college), I have had a hard time being around it.
My husband's aunt recently died from pancreatic cancer at the age of 85.
Except for the recent dx of cancer she was very healthy and mentally alert
(more so than most) despite the fact that she smoked regularly until the end.
I have several relatives who did smoke regularly as well--and none of them
developed cancer. However, fortunately, things have changed and I/we are
rarely exposed to 2nd hand smoke in our state.

glenfiddich

Funny - mine are far more affected by the absence of a bra...

tim jackson

Depends what effect you have in mind. I was thinking suppression.

This thread could get out of hand. I could discuss the symbology of bra's
and for example the logic of bra burning, at some length, but I promise I
won't.

Well, not here anyway.


Tim

allan grossman

I would like all of you to notice that I haven't posted in this thread
because I am a well-trained spouse.

I wear the pants in my house - my wife said I could.

;-)
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