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1 27th June 16:37
amalgam3000
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From:
http://www.toxicteeth.org/natCamp_AD...eyrebuttal.cfm

[The ADA claim]
"Amalgams have been used for 150 years and, during that time, has
established an extensively reviewed record of safety and
effectiveness."

[Boyd Hayley reply]
First, what other aspect of industry or medicine is still using the
same basic manufactured material that they used 150 years ago? One has
to ask the question as to what has hindered the progress of
development of better and safer dental materials? Also, consider that
in the early 1900s the average life expectancy of most Americans was
about 50 years of age and most of them could not afford dental
fillings. Fifty to sixty years is much less than the average age of
onset of AD. Further, amalgams became more available to most working
class Americans after World War II, or in the early 1950s. The
greatest increase in the use of amalgam occurred at about this time
and these 'baby boomers are the great ongoing amalgam experiment'.
They are now reaching the age where AD appears and have lived most of
their lives carrying amalgam fillings. They also wonder what is
causing their chronic fatigue as the physicians can find nothing
systemically wrong with them. I would encourage all concerned to
contact the health experts on the rate of increase of AD in the U.S.A.
at this time. Consider the cost it will place on the taxpayer and how
much we would save if we could even remove the exacerbation factors
that might speed up the onset of AD. I must point out that the
"extensively reviewed record of safety" mentioned in the ADA letter
was mostly done by dentists and committees dominated by ADA dentists.
Also, much of the "safety opinion" was developed long before words
like Alzheimer's disease and chronic fatigue were commonplace.
Further, these were "reviews" and not carefully documented studies
based on scientific experimentation and done by unqualified dentists,
not medical scientists. Dentists are not trained to do basic research,
nor are they trained in toxicology. Furthermore, the ADA does have a
vested interest in keeping amalgam use legitimate. The ADA was founded
on using amalgam technology and participated in patenting and
licensing amalgam technology. One has to question why there has not
been a general outcry by the bulk of well-meaning dentists and their
patients and this question should be addressed. The International
Association of Oral Medicine and Toxicology, started by American &
Canadian dentists, does adamantly disagree with the ADA on the issue
of safety of dental amalgams and this organization has the mantra of
"Show me your science" with regards to all dental issues.
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2 27th June 16:38
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http://www.yourhealthbase.com/amalgams.html

Peer of the Realm questions use of amalgam fillings
LONDON, ENGLAND. Lord Baldwin, joint chairman of the British Parliamentary
Group for Alternative and Complementary Medicine, is questioning the safety of
amalgam dental fillings. In a letter published in the British Medical Journal
Lord Baldwin asserts that it is up to the dental profession to prove that
amalgam fillings are safe and, in Lord Baldwin's opinion, this they have not
done. To point to the fact that amalgam fillings have been used for a hundred
years is not a proof of safety anymore than it is to claim that tobacco smoking
must be safe because people have been doing it for a long time, says Lord
Baldwin.
Baldwin, E.A.A. Controlled trials of dental amalgam are needed. British Medical
Journal, Vol. 309, October 29, 1994, p. 1161

Jan

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3 28th June 13:35
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Obviously, amalgame contains mercury. Obviously, still today their is no
other filling material comparable to amalgame regarding price, performance
and handling.

Nonetheless, that sort of cynicism shown by Dr. Joel does not help to
encounter an even better solution to overcome the dormant risk of mercury to
mankind and nature. The dentist is the specialist to invent, check and
aprove (or not aprove) alternatives.

An argument such as "it is working already for centuries" does not lead
anywhere, because if it would prove it's correctness mankind would still
would live in caves, because that worked for millenia.

Carsten R. Lutz
clutz@eudental.com

"Joel M. Eichen D.D.S." <joeleichen@yahoo.com>
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4 28th June 13:35
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Very obvious. But no reason to ripp off patients with quackery.

Jan Drew and the other naturopath mafia advertizing agencies spread hate
against scientific medicine, just to sell their own stuff.

The case of dental amalgam can only be delt with in a 100 percent scientific
manner. The quacks must be kept out!

Changing the Devil for Beelzebub is no progress, but cold-blooded murder.
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5 28th June 13:35
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Jan "Beelzeub" Drew???????


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6 28th June 13:35
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Good point to think about.
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7 5th July 00:05
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Hm... I just realized some interesting things on how this guy came up with
the name "Jan Drew"

See, "Jan Drew" is an anagram of not only "Jaw Nerd," but also "Darn
Jew"--both of which relate to his posts (anti-semetic 'jew boy' postings,
and anti-dentite postings.) I doubt he was even a babysitter--probably just
one of Hulda Clarks sales agents trying to make a buck off of every person
that buys a Zapper. He should be ashamed of himself!


evil,
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8 5th July 00:06
mark & steven bornfeld dds
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Generally speaking, I agree that eventually dental materials must be
clinically tested, and dentists must evaluate their usefulness. But at this
stage of sophistication and complexity the new materials are being developed by
polymer chemists, metallurgists, etc. I don't think that even as an undergrad
chem major I could contribute anything useful to the development of new
restorative materials, save clinical testing.
By the same token, we are not necessarily the best judges of pharmacologic
nor environmental safety.
Leaving these areas to the specialists will cost time and money, but will
ultimately lead to better and safer dental practice. Steve


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9 5th July 00:08
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I have no direct knowledge of jans real position, other
than I have seen her posts on these groups .

There are indeed people who have profited from
jumping on the anti-amalgam "bandwagon", but also
a great many more honest people who have genuine
concerns about amalgam safety, who ask questions with
integrity and yet end up getting unfairly accused of
promoting quackery..
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10 5th July 00:09
joel m. eichen d.d.s.
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REPLY: I do not even have to see her name ..... I recognize her style
..... It begins with ......


"*IF* you have UNANSWERED!!!!!! health problems ........"

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