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1 16th September 17:54
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Finally, after waiting about 6 weeks to get this hard plastic upper denture
out of my mouth, I got my Valplast upper yesterday.

I couldn't eat with it as it is not properly lined up with the bottom teeth,
but the dentist explained that when they do the bottom, it will be made to
fit with the top. (I will have some of my bottom front teeth remain) - the
problem was on the sides.

Anyway, this morning I put it in and was sitting at the computer, when I
felt something on my tongue - it felt like a pumpkin seed. I spit it out,
and it was a front tooth off the denture.

My cheap $200 plastic denture seems better made than the $900.00 Valplast
I've been waiting for. I didn't even have them in 24 hours and they broke.
I was not eating, as I didn't eat with them, they were just in my mouth.

I called the office and went right in (they are open on week-ends), I spoke
with the dentist who told me a tooth falling out of a denture is very rare.
Just my luck. The dentist seemed kind of embarrassed. I know he didn't make
the denture, but he seemed embarrassed just the same. So Now I have to wait
until they are fixed.

Anyway, just how "rare" is it for a tooth to come out of a denture? This is
going to make me very uncomfortable now, always thinking that I may lose
another tooth.
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2 16th September 17:54
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Teeth occasionally pop off a new denture for a variety of reasons. More
likely if your teeth don't "line up" as this will create extra stresses. Is
there a reason they did not make the new upper and lower dentures at the
same time?

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Roy
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| Finally, after waiting about 6 weeks to get this hard plastic upper
denture
| out of my mouth, I got my Valplast upper yesterday.
|
| I couldn't eat with it as it is not properly lined up with the bottom
teeth,
| but the dentist explained that when they do the bottom, it will be made to
| fit with the top. (I will have some of my bottom front teeth remain) - the
| problem was on the sides.
|
| Anyway, this morning I put it in and was sitting at the computer, when I
| felt something on my tongue - it felt like a pumpkin seed. I spit it out,
| and it was a front tooth off the denture.
|
| My cheap $200 plastic denture seems better made than the $900.00 Valplast
| I've been waiting for. I didn't even have them in 24 hours and they
broke.
| I was not eating, as I didn't eat with them, they were just in my mouth.
|
| I called the office and went right in (they are open on week-ends), I
spoke
| with the dentist who told me a tooth falling out of a denture is very
rare.
| Just my luck. The dentist seemed kind of embarrassed. I know he didn't
make
| the denture, but he seemed embarrassed just the same. So Now I have to
wait
| until they are fixed.
|
| Anyway, just how "rare" is it for a tooth to come out of a denture? This
is
| going to make me very uncomfortable now, always thinking that I may lose
| another tooth.
|
|
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3 16th September 17:55
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I'd like to add to Roy's comments. In a valplast partial there is no chemical
bond between the teeth and the base material. It is necessary to cut retentive
grooves, slots or holes into the teeth for mechanical retention into the base.
In many cases there simply is not enough clearance for this in the patients
mouth, therefore, a different appliance should be used. One option may be a
conventional cast metal partial with valplast clasps and the teeth bonded to
the frame with acrylic.

Like you, I would also worry about other teeth popping off.

Keith
K B Laboratory

PS. I make partials including Valplast and Flexite.
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4 16th September 17:56
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I didn't want to do both at the same time, and didn't want all the teeth out
at once. I had 2 or 3 pulled each visit, and 5 on the last, from which the
immediate measurement was made. I wanted to get used to wearing one first.
The top was giving me the most trouble, so I opted to get the top done
first. Also, as my insurance will only allow $1500.00 a year, I figured I
could get the top done and in 2 months the new year would start and I'd get
the bottom done.

Now I don't know if I am going to wait until January.

And no, the teeth didn't line up properly, but my dentist told me for the
time being it was OK because the bottom would be made to align with the top.
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5 16th September 17:56
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And I was told the Valplast would be the best bet for me, at least in terms
of comfort and aesthetics. Did I just blow $900.00?


Valplast
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6 16th September 17:56
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Frankly, I can't think of any excuse which makes constructing a denture
which is clearly out of occlusion (teeth don't meet correctly) OK. The
chances of causing temporomandibular disturbances, soft tissue (denture
base tissues) irritations, periodontal problems (loose teeth due to
malocclusion), and diminished chewing ability would be very high.
I'd get back to the dentist and insist on the treatment being completed
quickly and properly as soon as possible before any untoward
consequences develop.

Dr. G. Prosthodontist
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7 16th September 17:56
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Hi Keith,

I thought the lack of a bond might play a factor. I didn't recall the
composition of Valplast when posting.

I've got a patient now with a flexible base of unknown origin that I have
been considering using Myersons permasoft as an interim liner. Do you know
if I will experience bonding problems with this too? I had limited success
with using Coe Comfort.

This patient was wearing a mismatched set of dentures also. The flexible
lower partial because it did not show any metal from one set and the more
esthetic full upper from another set. There was a 5-6 mm open bite on the
left posteriors, palpating any of the muscles on that side above the collar
bone was agonizing to the patient. I've been trying to use a modified Earl
Pound technique to adapt the dentures with bite pads to see if providing a
stable base and occlusal table will tone down the hypersensitivy and pain.
If it works, I will make a new set of dentures to the newly restored
position. If not, I will send them off to one of the local TMD gurus.

Money is an issue with this patient. I think that by doing it this way and
we succeed I'm a hero. If it doesn't solve the problem, I'm still a hero
because the specialist will charge a lot more to do the same thing. The
specialist will have prosthetics that are a lot more stable to start working
with.

BTW how is that new Dentsply denture base (I forgot the name) coming along?
That one is a mechanical bond to the denture teeth also, is it not?
--
Roy
DotSeaEh is .ca

| I'd like to add to Roy's comments. In a valplast partial there is no
chemical
| bond between the teeth and the base material. It is necessary to cut
retentive
| grooves, slots or holes into the teeth for mechanical retention into the
base.
| In many cases there simply is not enough clearance for this in the
patients
| mouth, therefore, a different appliance should be used. One option may be
a
| conventional cast metal partial with valplast clasps and the teeth bonded
to
| the frame with acrylic.
|
| Like you, I would also worry about other teeth popping off.
|
| Keith
| K B Laboratory
|
| PS. I make partials including Valplast and Flexite.
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8 16th September 17:57
joel m. eichen d.d.s.
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Its nylon, therfore diatoric boxes are necessary on the intaglio
surface.

..


--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA

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9 16th September 17:57
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Sounds reasonable to me .... I have done thousands exactly this way!

Joel

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10 16th September 17:57
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Hi Roy,


Don't know the answer to this one, but I would guess if the temp material
doesn't stick the Myerson's won't either. Good luck though. Sounds like you may
need it!!

Ah, yes. My Eclipse system. I get tired of all the ignorant comments from
people who have never tried the system. I am still going rather slow with full
dentures so I don't risk getting overwhelmed with remakes. Gotta be realistic.
So far, however, I've had only one tooth pop off, and I attribute that one to
my error. I do a lot of flippers and partial with it however. I can't see doing
these any other way at this point. I really do like the material.

Keith
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