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21 24th November 08:31
steve harris
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Quote em. And spare me the all rac dl vitamin E studies,
inasmuch as d,d,d natural can now be produced synthetically,
and most of the d-alpha is produced semisynthetically.
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22 26th November 06:50
rich shewmaker
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This opinionated tirade proves nothing about science, medicine, or the
politics of scientists or medical professionals.


I said, and still say, that there is no coherent "political agenda" among
medical professionals and scientists. There are hardly any political ideas
we agree on. There is certainly no illuminati-like controling organization.

Oh? For free? Or are you another greedy altie quack who's anti-science
political agenda is designed to scare people away from their doctors and
toward your pseudonatural for-profit products?

--Rich
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23 26th November 06:50
johngohde
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Oh, so according to you quoting directly from:

Rodwin MA.
The politics of evidence-based medicine.
http://www.ahcpr.gov/clinic/jhppl/rodwin.htm#Introduction
J Health Polit Policy Law. 2001 Apr;26(2):439-46. Review. No abstract available.
PMID: 11330089

contistutes an opinionated tirade?

No! You are presenting the opinionated tirade.

I simply quoted from an Academic Journal.
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Achieving good Health is an Art, NOT a Science!
http://NaturalHealthPerspective.com/
The ONLY Frauds in Health are those who couldn't care less about prevention.
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24 26th November 06:50
rich shewmaker
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So you think that academic journals never publish opinionated, biased
articles? Doesn't that undermine your contention that, "scientists
intentionally distort their findings..."? Besides, the article you are
quoting here was published under the title "Commentary" and presented as the
opinion of the author. It was never intended to represent researched
data-based fact as would appear in the body of an academic journal.

prevention.
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25 26th November 06:50
johngohde
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I'll rate your pathetic attempt to save face a C-.
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26 26th November 06:50
rich shewmaker
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And your feeble attempt at diversion gets a failing grade. The fact remains
that the article in question is a biased anti-science tirade, and that you
have presented nothing factual in support of your contention that scientists
distort their research in order to further some common political goal. See
if you can find anything solid. Present not just vague accusations, but an
example of a study that was cooked and the evidence that the errant
researcher was influenced by a conspiracy to "extract as much money as
possible from both patients and their health insurance."
--Rich -->With a face of sunshine and serenity.
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27 26th November 06:50
rich shewmaker
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So then, it is the political agenda of the federal government (supplying the
great bulk of the research money) to suppress research favoring vitamin
supplements in favor of promoting the sale of statin drugs? Why? Besides, it
is not Mr. Gohde's contention that vitamin researchers do not get funded,
but that they cheat when reporting their results.

You surely know more than a few scientists at Purdue. Ask them if they are
willing to cook their data or adjust their conclusions to meet a common
political agenda.

--Rich
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28 26th November 06:50
johngohde
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To a certain extent it depends on the particular vitamin.

But, in general the issue of natural versus synthetic is so passe as
to be almost laughable.
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29 26th November 06:50
johngohde
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Seven (7) high quality references

ad hominem comments?

Are you not making an oxymoron statement?

Hark! My private health newsgroup beckons!
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John Gohde,
Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science!

The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is the foundation of the
biomedical model of natural health. Weighing in at 17 webpages,
Nutrition ( http://www.Food.NaturalHealthPerspective.com/ )is now
with more do***entation and sharper terminology than ever before.
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30 26th November 06:50
rich shewmaker
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....that do not support your thesis.

Yes run away to your private sandbox. Come back to the real world when
you've learned enough about how it operates to engage in intelligent debate.
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