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A couple of us have noted reduced T as a result of low carbohydrate dieting,
the antidote to hyperinsulinemia. Hyperinsulinemia plays a role in or is
indicative of systemic inflammation, perhaps why it worsens T.;

1: Otolaryngol Pol. 2002;56(1):57-62. Related Articles, Links


[Hyperinsulinemia in vertigo, tinnitus and hearing loss]

[Article in Polish]

Doroszewska G, Kazmierczak H.

Katedra i Klinika Otolaryngologii Akademii Medycznej w Bydgoszczy.

48 patients (25 woman, mean age 42 +/- 9.9 years and 23 men, mean age 46.6 +/-
8.3 years) suffering from vertigo, tinnitus and hearing loss of unknown origin
were included into this study. The occurrence and coexistence of symptoms was
measured. Insulin levels were measured fasting and at the second hour of OGTT.
Results were compared with the control group of 31 healthy persons (16 women,
mean age 41.3 +/- 5.6 years and 15 men, mean age 47.6 +/- 9.4 years). The
character of vertigo, localization of hearing loss and electronystagmographic
findings showed the pathology of the inner ear. The occurrence of
hyperinsulinemia was significantly more common in the patients group--43.8%,
comparing to the control group--22.6%. Also the insulin levels in the second
hour of OGTT, were statistically significantly higher in patients that in the
control group.

PMID: 12053670 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Susan

pauls

Would the be any anecdotal observations of low Carb dieting in the absence
of insulin problems?

PaulS

sufein

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In article <Iguqb.41587$SV2.5252@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, "PaulS"
<gatorz@bellsouth.net> writes:

IMO, anyone who's eating a high glycemic diet has an insulin problem, as in too
much secretion, even if the extreme manifestations are not present. But, yes,
even in normal subjects, studies, not anecdotes, confirm improved lipid ratios,
blood glucose levels and lean body mass to fat ratios.

Susan

jchinnis

There was a flurry of interest back in the 60s or so in the "observation" that
Meniere's patients tended to come from the same pool of people with elevated
risk of heart disease. I recall seeing some data on an association between
body fat and Meniere's, for instance. But that was before the days of
"metabolic syndrome," and I doubt that insulin levels were monitored in any
fashion while trying to understand the association.

Of course, there's always the danger of having reverse causality at work:
people with vertigo (at least) probably on average have lower activity levels,
which could lead to hyperinsulinemia, especially with the usual diet high in
refined starches.
--
Jim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG

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In article <jg1lqvcv7t4383a1t1i5f4ubb3jdq19bkl@4ax.com>,
jchinnis@SPAMalum.mit.edu (Jim Chinnis) writes:


I've posted this before... i don't think the lipids are the cause of the
problem, though, I think they're a marker for hyperinsulinemia. One can get
the benefits of this diet without the extreme low calories, IME.

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Published erratum appears in Ear Nose Throat J 1998 Feb;77(2):145


Progressive sensorineural hearing loss, subjective tinnitus and vertigo caused
by elevated blood lipids.

Pulec JL, Pulec MB, Mendoza I

Pulec Ear Clinic and Ear International, Los Angeles, California, USA.

The otologist frequently sees patients with progressive sensorineural hearing
loss, subjective aural tinnitus and vertigo with no apparent cause. Elevated
blood lipids may be a cause of inner ear malfunction on a biochemical basis. To
establish the true incidence of this condition, all new patients (4,251) seen
during an eight-year period were evaluated; of these, 2,332 patients had
complaints of inner ear disease. All had a complete neurotologic examination,
appropriate audiometric and vestibular studies and imaging, and blood tests
including lipid phenotype studies. Hyperlipoproteinemia was found in 120
patients (5.1%). Most patients were found to be overweight and had additional
coexisting conditions such as diabetes mellitus. Treatment with vasodilators
and a 500-calorie, high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet yielded improvement of
symptoms in 83% of patients within five months of initiation of treatment.

Comments:
Comment in: Ear Nose Throat J 1998 Feb;77(2):145
Comment in: Ear Nose Throat J 1998 Mar;77(3):224

PMID: 9345815, UI: 98005748

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Yes, and I don't think it matters what causation is; even those with low
activity levels can lower insulin secretion and, possibly, T and vertigo,
tremendously with their food choices.

Susan

jchinnis

The causation matters. But the Pulec paper is not subject to my reverse
causality criticism. It does lack a control group, though, such as a group of
similar patients treated with a low-fat, high carb diet.
--
Jim Chinnis / Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Want to discuss Meniere's? See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MenieresDG

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In article <4o3lqvg20smipbvkti942dhr2k8ebf75id@4ax.com>,
jchinnis@SPAMalum.mit.edu (Jim Chinnis) writes:


That, and they confounded the results with the extreme low cal aspect.

Susan

pauls

Thanks Susan. I guess I really didn't ask the right question. I was
wondering about low carb diets and beneficial affects on tinnitus. My lipids
profile is great!! My tinnitus ain't :-)

PaulS

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In article <u3yqb.50299$un.41272@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, "PaulS"
<gatorz@bellsouth.net> writes:

I understood your question.

Even if you don't suffer the most recognizable manifestations of IR, you may
gain benefits from low carbing. Normal subjects in diet studies often do.
What can it hurt to try it? Doesn't have to be the Atkins induction plan.

Susan

entconsult

There is a rare condition of hyperlipedemia in kids who get hearing loss
neurosensory. Some have had their hearing restored when the lipids were
reduced.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
http://www.hydromedonline.com