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1 9th November 01:41
nann bell
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My stepdaughter just went to her allergist because she's been having to use
her inhaler a lot lately. He told her the problem wasn't her lungs, but
rather that her rib cage and sternum are inflammed. Then he told her it
might be from acid indigestion. Does that make sense to anyone?

Of course acid indigestion can cause chest pain, but I'm skeptical about it
causing the inflammed ribs/sternum. Wouldn't the trouble be in the stomach
and/or esophagus?

He gave her Prevacid and Vioxx so at least she's on an NSAID along with an
acid reducer. I mentioned costochondritis and suggested she google it.

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2 9th November 01:42
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Nann,
My husband recently went to the allergy and asthma clinic. He had been there
before, and Mike is having alot of trouble lately, and so he decided to see
that specialist again.
Now He already sees another lung specialist. Okay back on track,
This allergy specialist told him that they have found that acid reflux
causes alot of asthma problems. He said that people who don't even know they
have it because it is so mild, can trigger an asthma attack...There is a
nerve that goes down the esophagus to almost the opening of the stomach.
When the acid comes up and hits that nerve, that is what triggers the
attack. My husband is now seeing a digestive specialist to determine if in
fact he has it. This doctor said that alot of times a nerve is what
initiates an attack.
For instance, When you walk into the sunlight and start sneezing your head
off. You are not allergic to the sun, However there is a nerve in the retina
that reacts when the eye dilates quickly... Back to the other. He said that
the reflux only has to come up a tiny bit to cause that nerve to react.....
So I am guessing that this is the new answer for some asthma problems. The
doctor told Mike that some people have to take double the medication. Mike
takes Nexium.
Now His regular lung specialist had already told him that he would have to
take medication for acid reflux everyday for the rest of his life...
I am rambling, I hope your stepdaughter is better soon.
Cindy
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3 9th November 01:43
nann bell
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Huh. Interesting. I wonder if that was what the doctor meant about the
acid, rather than it actually causing rib inflammation. Unless maybe he
thought that was causing so much sneezing and coughing that her ribs became
inflammed from that. Huh. I'll have to see what else she has to report.

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4 9th November 01:43
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This is interesting. I have had a persistent dry cough for some time, it got
really bad a little over a week ago. I did have asthma years ago but it has been
lying low. Had a chest X-ray and pulmonary function tests, all normal. My RD
took me off MTX in case of interstitial pneumonia. My GP thinks it is asthma and
put me on inhalers and an allergy med and after a week if no better I have
sample of an anti-reflux med. I said I don't have reflux, but he said I could
without knowing. I had never heard of this, so was really glad to read your
post. I am still croaking, coughing and so tired I can barely do anything. It is
so nice to know I am not alone. So far Plaquenil (sp?) and Mobicox are keeping
my RA under control but I want to get back on MTX.


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5 9th November 01:44
chip
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Acid refluxes from the stomach up the esophagus and into the oral cavity and
then is aspirated into the lungs causing lung problems including asthma and aspiration pneumonia.


The vagus nerve travels down the mediastinum and into the abdominal cavity.


Acid never comes in contact with the nerve.


Stimulation of the vagus nerve would cause bronchocontriction. But
anatomically it is impossible for acid refux to come in contact with the vagus nerve.


The pupils would *constrict* if you went into the sun.


That would be the proper treatment. Along with elevation of the head of the
bed so he doesn't aspirate stomach contents during the night while asleep.

Chip
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6 13th November 13:55
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Thank you for this, Chip. I didn't have the energy to respond. :-)


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7 13th November 13:56
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Okay Chip, You know that I meant pupil. And when it restricts, the nerve
reacts and makes you sneeze.....I am just having a bad flare of FM and brain
fog is terrible.....And as for the rest of it about the acid, it is just the
way us laymen remember it said. It made perfect sense to me....I knew what I
meant when I said what I said, just read my mind and follow along....The
acid reflux causes the nerve in the Esophogus to react. Thus causing
inflamation and coughing. Okay...
Cindy
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8 13th November 13:57
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Hi Nann!


How's life there in the North??? Did you all lose your power during
the outage last week?

As to your question about your niece, I can tell you that reflux (GERD)
is a very common thing among asthmatics and can cause a great deal of
trouble. The reflux can cause a lot of coughing, choking, and even
pneumonia if aspirated into the lungs at all. With the constant
inflammation of the esophagus, the coughing can become even more and can
set off many an asthma attack. This can then set up a lot of
irritation to the surrounding tissues that would then give you pain in
the chest/sternum area. If your niece gets on a good med for the
reflux, she should hopefully see an improvement in her asthma symptoms
as well as the pain in her chest and sternum. The nsaids may cause
the relux to be worse though, so she needs to be careful in that regard.
Do you know if she is on a good asthma regimen with her inhalers? Is
she on a steroidal inhaler besides her rescue inhaler?

Sure hope she gets to feeling better real soon!!!!

Hope you and Mike are settling into your new home well and that you will
be able to find yourself a great new RD.

Donna G
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9 13th November 13:57
nann bell
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We were off visiting folks in Wisconsin and Chicago, but we clearly lost
power here for a while. Dunno how long though. How about you? I've been
hoping that all was ok with you.

She says, He was throwing so much info at her that she didn't catch all the
details, but the explanation Cindy had made sense to her with what the doctor
said. And he did use the costochondritis, she just didn't remember it with
all the rest and she talked about it as a more direct connection rather than
a chain reaction thing.


They've only been treating this for a couple of months (long story there, I
would have pushed for more attention to things earlier but the stepmom can
only push so hard - esp when the mom is pushing the other way). Apparently
she's on Advair, Albuterol and allergy meds. Singulair did nothing for her.

She's a challange for the doctor too because she's a singer (majored in vocal
performance at Oberlin) and therefore has a singer's breathing techniques.
She confounds all the simpler breathing tests.

I told her that she doesn't have try so hard to fit in with my family,
getting allergies and chronic illness stuff, just because I married her dad.
My family loves her just fine without it all! LOL


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10 13th November 13:59
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Harv,
Thanks, I guess I was just a little touchy. It makes me so angry when I know
what I want to say and it all comes out wrong. Or I am trying to write down
a thought, and it my mind goes blank. I can't even remember how to spell. I
was always a good speller, couldn't add 2 and 2, but I could spell!!!Damn
old brain fog anyways...(sorry about the language).
Sorry about your acid reflux stuff. Hope that the meds work for you.
Have a great Day
Cindy
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