the puppy wizard

HOWEDY kilikini,

<kilikini1@nospamhotmail.com> wrote:

NO PROBLEMO! Thank you for providing
the INFORMATION The Amazing Puppy
Wizard needs to PROVE you're a dog
abuser liar and MENTAL CASE.


Thanks again. The Amazing Puppy
Wizard crossposts so all animal lovers
will see what kinda MENTAL CASES post here abHOWETS.


Perhaps you should consult your psycho doctor?

INDEED. As in children, it's CAUSED
by REPRESSION and abuse.


A dog is a dog.

Yeah. IOW, you can't force and intimidate
him to do as you like so you came here to
learn HOWE to hurt intimidate and bribe him MOORE apupriately.

Perhaps there's too many words?


THAT'S HOWE COME the dog is hyperactive and HOWETA CONTROL.

You just gotta be FIRM. Whatever THAT means.

Yeah. Here goes Master Of Deception
blankman chasin her tail and biting her
ass runnin in circles trying to make sumpthin
that ain't there, fit there, where there ain't
no room for nuthin to fit.


Good idea! That'll occupy you for MONTHS.


Yeah. It'd be IMPOSSIBLE to stay in a sit
withHOWET takin the position of sittin.

To teach a STAY command.

THAT'LL tell the dog he's NOT sittin.


IF the dog IS SITTING and you ask him
to SIT again, he'll break the command.

The PROBLEM is the STAY command, not sit.
Sittin got NUTHIN to do with STAY.

Right. STAY is a NON action. That's HOWE
COME it's difficult to teach cause there's NO
specific behavior other than "don't move."

PERHAPS that's on accHOWENT of it's
IRRELEVENT to the STAY command.


Yeah. Meanwhile, ROTATE YOUR MEDS
and be SHORE to take them with a litte food.

<SNIP BUNK>

INDEED! You'll be fillin us in with
"progress reports" for at least a year.


Your next question will be what to
do with your dog after he turns on you.


Like THIS: "If I call his name and wave
his ball at him and tell him to come, whatever
object he was previously focusing his attention
on gets ignored and he lunges for his ball."

INDEED?: "but if a bird comes by, a plane
goes overhead, etc., he jumps up to go
investigate, ignoring the ball and me."

Oh? That so?: "If I call his name and wave
his ball at him and tell him to come, whatever
object he was previously focusing his attention
on gets ignored and he lunges for his ball."


You mean, despite: "If I call his name and wave
his ball at him and tell him to come, whatever
object he was previously focusing his attention
on gets ignored and he lunges for his ball."

IOW, your dog won't come.


"but if a bird comes by, a plane
goes overhead, etc., he jumps up to go
investigate, ignoring the ball and me."


That so? The Amazing Puppy Wizard
sez grabbing his collar is HOWE COME
your dog doesn't LISTEN to you.

BWEEEEEEHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

A DOG IS A DOG. You bums blame the
dog for your inability to train IT. THAT'S
HOWE COME you HURT and INTIMIDATE your dogs.

The OP sez she can't GET to a "trainin class."


You mean like the classes nessa took?
Or the classes lyiing "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn teaches?:

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash
on and pass it through the crate door.

Attach a line to it. When he barks, use the
line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
Lynn K.

<snip MOORE BUNK>

<SNIP TRIPE>


Yeah. THAT'S HOWE COME your dog won't
do nuthin you tell IT to do.


BWEEEHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

Last week it was dominance...


Well you better hurry up and beat him
runnin dHOWEN the hallway and through
the doorway or he'll dominate you.


See your N.I.L.I.F. posts. The EXXXPERTS call this DOMINANCE.


THAT'S DOMINANCE. You gotta lock your
dog in a box and IGNORE IT when IT does that.


Yeah. You'll get used to it.


Well, maybe not completely.


For the same reason she's askin liars
dog abusers cowards and active long
term incurable mental patients for adgvvice
for the same problems they got and can't train.

THAT'LL increase anxiHOWESNESS
and reinforce the behavior.

HOWE you gonna do THAT withHOWET
payin the dog no attention?

To punish the dog for his BONDING attempts.


That so? You think tying the dog to
a wall cause IT wants to say "HOWEDY!"
is INTELLIGENT NORMAL behavior?


Naaah, cause it's been REINFORCED
when you first IGNORED the dog to tie
IT in the other room, you goddamned MENTAL CASE.

You mean punish his BONDING attempts.


RIGHT. So he'll either TRY HARDER
or run HOWET on you to find someWON
who DOES like to say "HOWEDY!"


No, you're BOTH, MENTALLY ILL.

RIGHT! But NHOWE you'll have to start HURTIN his FEELINS.

Yeah. Poor you.

No, he sees you as a MENTALLY UNSTABLE DOG ABUSER.


<snip IDIOCY>

IOW, he's HOWEtwitted you.


A dog is a dog. You're a IMBECILE.

BWEEEHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!!

Your MENTALLY ILL LYING DOG ABUSING
PUNK THUG COWARD PALS all got the same
same same same PROBLEM and can't fix it.

Even a broken wheel has the mentality
of a broken wheel. To try to force a broken
wheel to have the mentality of a wheel is
IMPOSSIBLE withHOWET doin sumpthin different.


<snip BUNK>

BWEEEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

We'll remember that when you gotta
murder your dog for behavior problems
like kwbrown and deirdre edwards and
so many of HOWER DOG LOVERS have
done right here by following the EXXXPERT
ADVICE of HOWER MENTALLY ILL LYING
DOG ABUSING PUNK THUG COWARDS
like Master Of Deception blankman and company.


BWEEEEAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

Don't forget the cookie.


INDEEDY! You'll be entertraining The Amazing
Puppy Wizard with your dog behavior problems
for months on end, like the rest of HOWER
MENTALLY ILL LYING DOG ABUSING PUNK
THUG COWARDS have been doin.

"kilikini" <kilikini1@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message news:hZcjc.3769$nn3.22@twister.socal.rr.com...

The Amazing Puppy Wizard sez a SHOWEND is a SHOWEND.


Briefly, and INSTANTLY following the BRIEF,
VARIABLY ALTERNATING SHOWEND with
prolonged non physical praise.


Right. The OBJECTIVE is to EXXXTINGUISH
the THOUGHT of the behavior using EFFECTIVE
SCIENTIFIC NON PHYSICHOLOGICAL techniques.


No. You're using SHOWEND as an aversive.
Your INTENT is to FORCE CONTROL, not
EXXXTINGUISH or INSTALL a behavior.


Not all of a sudden. What you did when you "read"
The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual was to SKIM it,
looking for ways to FORCE CONTROL, not train your dog.


INDEEDY. You're in EXXXCELLENT company HOWEver.
lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn, janet boss, katra, steve boyer,
professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer kaelie and krisHURT
have all done likeWIZE.
<snip words>


Right. You intimidate him.
<snip pals>

THAT'S on accHOWENT of you force control.


Right. NOT till you met up with The Amazing Puppy Wizard.


Cause you don't know HOWE to TRAIN them.


A kat is a kat as a dog is a dog.


He's WON year old and the kats are swatting him
cause you refuse to stop scolding and punishing him.

They've had MONTHS.


That's IRRELEVENT. They DO NOT FEEL SAFE.


The Amazing Puppy Wizard seldom gives treats.


No. You rely on EXXXCESSIVE EXXXERCISE
to control your dog's HYPERACTIVE behavior.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard's posts are TIMELESS.

INDEEDY. They're all right here, to boot.


No, we don't gotta see mayhem to make ABUSE acceptable.


Subject: Drive Flow, Instinct, Anchors,
and Trigger Mechanisms
Date: 1999/10/06

Parker wrote:

Hello Parker,

NIce to be able to talk to someone that understands enough
about dog behavior to be able to share ideas with, rather than
simply dispute the validity of of my methods and trying to
prove that I really do exist...


I'd define "higher brained creatures" as any person that can
talk about dog training without asking me howe many blue
ribbons I've got hanging out in my silver trophy display
cabinet... dogs have never asked me for my resume, so I'd say
that they qualify, whereas many of the posters here cannot
compete intellectually with dogs, horses, pigs, monkeys, etc.


I teach my students to do that by praising every eye contact,
even if it's only a momentary glance. When that dog looks over
at you, you gotta be praising him like he did something great.
That way, the dog is always expecting lots of positive
attention, and he knows howe to get it when he starts feeling
like doing something like getting into mischief... It's a safe
way the dog can pull your strings, and not interrupt your
routine to get some attention. The praise can be substituted
with a hand signal like the international O.K. sign, or even a
wink. My dogs will wink at me when they want to get cute or make me laugh...


We make our own "natural." The man/dog relationship wasn't
natural when the first dog made friends with man. We get
accustomed to doing what we think is right, and that becomes
natural to us. That's why habits are so hard to break, they
have become reflexive and do not rely on our thought processes
or our rationalizations to justify them. They are the boss,
and we are the servant to our habits, or else they wouldn't be
called habits, would they???


I think in the context Steve means, he's talking about
discipline, punishment, and forced control... You see, it's
not much different than what you and I think of, except we
handle these things without the perversion of domination,
control, and abuse... In it's perversion (as in the instances
of "dog trainers"), it is the opposite drive flow that is
bolstering a fragile ego or overcompensating for an inferiority complex.


Absolutely. Although I do not use the words that you do to
describe what I need my students to accomplish, we are talking
about the same things, linking one drive or emotion to the
idea of carrying it over into a command. I do that with praise
and timing in conjunction with the commands, even if the dog
has made a mistake. He is obligated to "catch up" with the
flow, or be left out of the excitement.


Everybody operates on instinct and reflex, at least until
those qualities are quashed by our education and our society.
The ability to think, rationalize and solve problems are
learned qualities that takes humans years to develop. Next, it
takes years of training for people to ignore their instincts
and accept getting shafted for the rest of their lives,
because people are not well equipped to challenge authority,
or to think individually. It's kind of a group survival thing,
like fish school and prey animals herd. Kind of like, don't
eat me, he's so much more tender looking, or wealthy, or...

I suppose that is why two dogs of similar age will bond
together more closely than they will with their owners. The
other dog is more satisfying to them... I wonder howe
satisfying a dominant trainer is, when the dog only wants to
feel good, bond, and be partners?


Well, that would take a little thinking, wouldn't it? Although
there is a time to think, it isn't when you are trying to jerk
and choke your dog into submission and make yourself look
MACHO by whupping on a little dog, is it? Let's leave the
thinking to people that don't have to train their dogs. We got
to react and confront a behavior, rather than spend a few
minutes to change it by using a little thought and strategy...
Otherwise, the dog may learn a bad habit, like trusting a
schizophrenic trainer to not go berserk and choke him for a
while because he didn't sit when the big Kahuna "commands." I
never give my dogs commands, they respond instantly to
requests, because they enjoy working for me, commands
challenge them and shuts off their "drive flow," and makes the
handler tense and frustrated if the commands are not followed
immediately by the dog. We've really got to reconsider and
reorganize our approach to training our dogs, because
everything our "experts" here are doing is going opposite of
what the dog believes to be true as presented to him by nature.


I personally do not use it for play or training, but there is
no reason not to. At first it threw me off a little, when I
heard some of the ideas expressed as "play" training. I
laughed and almost ignored the good stuff about drive flow and
instinct, like you are talking about now. Then I finally got
what Canis55 had been discussing, and I realized that "play
training" is serious stuff...


Yes, exactly, until the dog does something that "deserves" a
correction, and then the peak of drive flow is interrupted and
anchored to a negative correction. Tough break for the dog,
foolish maneuver for the trainer, and that's usually about
when I get called to help out another dog that is turning on his handler...


Of course. Furthermore, we can do the same thing with people,
without even making them aware of what we are doing, once you
understand the principles. Turning your dog on to want to work
for you, is no more difficult than turning on your mate to
make love, or commanding the children's attention. All you
gotta do is know howe to anchor a feeling, and trigger it when
you want to use it on that individual... We're talking about
some pretty powerful stuff here, playing with various states
of mind and levels of emotions like a card trick, manipulating
them at will in another person or our dog.

Or, you could go in the opposite direction, and anchor the
stimulus to another drive. It's kind of like a smorgasbord of
behaviors that we can pick from, take some more, get some
other, and make what we want.

That would be good, but the dog will have learned from
experience that every time he feels good, the trainer is
likely to freak out and correct him for putting his mouth on
him, or for jumping up, or for acting like he was having fun,
or because he works too slowly, or because it's time to get
serious about training, like in those group classes where
everybody is going to look at you if you make a mistake, and
wait for you to show the dog who is the boss.

When sit means sit, and everybody else is jerking their dog
around on a choke collar, and all the dogs in class are "doing
good" except you, that is not the time to take out a rag and
give a moment of tug of war to restimulate the prey drive....
We would look different and out of place, might even get the
personal attention of the "trainer," who is only interested at
that moment in teaching you howe to give an "effective" leash
correction. So, like a herd animal going off to slaughter, our
college educated dog training student does what he knows at
some level is incorrect and inherently wrong, but to keep in
step with the other losers and not look out of place, our
dedicated student will give into social pressure and violate
their dogs trust and ruin his day, and possibly ruin his life.


What you are doing is not a "correction" in the sense of what
is generally understood here. Perhaps you won't want to after
you get familiar with other anchors and trigger mechanisms...


I understand what you are doing and saying, but I'm afraid
it's going to be lost on the "experts" here, there isn't
enough fundamental education behind what they know of these
things.

I agree 100%. I opt for using "pack drive" for obedience
training, because it is a lower energy situation which is
easier to access and easier for my students to deal with, yet
it still provides strong motivation for the dog.

You mean the answer why dogs chase sticks or balls isn't
"because it's there?"

Exactly. You get a level of connectivity that can not be
equaled by any other means.


As soon as I figured that out about twenty eight years ago, I
immediately cut out ten hours of training from my protection
dog training course. Why waste time training for obedience,
when we can move right into protection using that prey drive
through protection training as the motivator for the obedience?

From that moment on, as soon as my student handler
gets the feel of handling the lead without pulling on the
collar, and is able to get even just a few steps of heel and
learns how to handle the dog to get him to sit without
"correcting" or fighting with him, the man/dog team can start
right in on the good stuff. The result is fast, effective,
almost effortless training, with no need for negative
corrections, fear, force, or confrontation.

HOWE about that???

"I know that most men, including those at ease with problems
of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the
simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to
admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in
explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which
they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their
lives."
Leo Tolstoy

Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated
more complaints to my personal email than any other
controversial post I have made to date, bar none?:
caveat
If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you
would rather not have to do, then you shouldn't be doing them.
If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog
around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock,
shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that
corrections are appropriate, that the dog won't think of you
as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if
they can't train your dog to do what you want, look for a
trainer that knows Howe.

Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Wits' End Dog Training
http://www.doggydoright.com

Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed.
-Francis Bacon-

There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem,
bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after.
Who ever can't hit the nail on the head should, please, not
hit at all.
-Nietzsche-

The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are
learned qualities.

The Wits' End Dog Training Method challenges the learning
centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged,
develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him
smarter.

The Wits' End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising
split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not
mindless hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and
scolding.
-Jerry Howe-