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1 15th July 16:44
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HOWEDY kwbrown,


EVERY day is a VERY BAD DAY, for a dog abuser.

BWEEAAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAAA!!!

NHOWE it's TIME to MURDER YOUR DOG!

ENJOY the fruits of your work.


BWEEEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

There ain't NUTHIN the matter with the dog.
It's the DOG ABUSER who needs medical
heelp:

"It wasn't that meds didn't work for her - she wouldn't take
them. I particularly remember a comment she made about
scarey side effects of Lithium. Hardly. After 17 years on
it, I think I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of
any side effect is far less frightening than the very real
dangers of life without it."

Lynn K. -----------------------------------------

The Puppy Wizard's been TELLIN you since DAY WON.


The VET don't know NUTHIN abHOWET behavior.


There's NUTHIN the matter with the dog that
NOT BEING ABUSED wouldn't CURE.


ETHICKAL BREEDERS MURDER dogs like you got.


Your PALS HERE MURDER DOGS LIKE YOU GOT.


BWEEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

DOG ABUSERS ARE COWARDS WHO KILL
DOGS THEY FEAR WHEN CHOKING SHOCKING
and LOCKING THEM IN BOXES FAIL.

BWWEHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

WORDS OF WISDOM
from our own Lynn Kosmakos

I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIM

From: Chris Kosmakos (chriskoz@netcom.com)
Subject: Re: complaints and goodbye

Lisa K. Baird (lbaird@infinet.com) wrote:
:
: Sheesh, if everyone would start taking responsibility
: for their own actions, wouldn't life be grand?

"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-depression)
requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day.

I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to learn more,
while happily sharing pertinent information I have learned.

But if I were ever to post such sh*t, I would hope that every
other reader of this group would be rightfully outraged."

"Community is an evolutionary thing that we earn
the right to participate in by observing the easily
understood rules and contributing to in constructive ways."

Lynn K. -----------------------------------------

NOT TILL YOU MURDER YOUR DOG.


Perhaps she needs to rotate her meds?

BWEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

"On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
we have trained require much more
frequent and heavy application of pressure
(PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,

This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome

Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
less tractable dogs may require you to
progress to striking them more sharply"

"Try pinching the ear between the metal
casing and the collar, even the buckle on
the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"

"You can press the dog's ear with a
shotshell instead of your thumb even
get a studded collar and pinch the ear
against that Make the dog's need to stop
the pinching so urgent that resisting your
will fades in importance.

CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
using the stick and no ear pinch.

When the dog is digging out to beat the
stick and seems totally reliable without
any ear pinch, you are finished

This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome"

If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
under the chin, say "No! Hold!"

(stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
because the ear is getting tender, or the
dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
frosty dahl.

"Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap," professora gingold.


Your pal tara o. aka tee recommends you bring CHEDDAR.


BWEEEHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!!

You mean the ABUSER who taught you to ABUSER your dog.

BWEEEEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

So much for your "TRAINER."

"MURDER YOUR DOG"

ANY dog will TURN on his ABUSERS.


The Puppy Wizard TOLD YOU SO!


Welcome to The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method School Of HARD KNOCKS, GRADUATE!


You mean ****a the DEAD ESS you've ABUSED.


She could be NEXT.

Borrowed from: "Puppy Raising Tips" from
professional trainers, John and Amy Dahl.

"Around four months many puppies can withstand a
correction. Unfortunately this is the time they start
teething and if their mouth hurts, they may act
generally sensitive. If this is the case, be patient and
wait for all those baby teeth to fall out.

In training, retrievers often respond to physical correction
better than verbal correction. While "NO!" is extremely
useful if puppy is about to bite an electrical cord or steal
food off the table, when you are teaching them something
(like obedience) a sharp jerk on their lead or swat with a
stick gets the message across with less emotion and less
effect on their confidence.

If they drop the dummy and act like their mouth hurts
when they are teething, stop all retrieving and wait for
their mouth to feel better. A correction should be just
severe enough to get the dog to respond.

Repeated weak corrections are very stressful to the dog."

END lyingfrosty dahl

If you are interested in purchasing a dignified stick to
lay across you puppy's arse, just send a personal check
or money order in the amount of $30-$40 for a 30"-40"
long whuppin stick.

These all natural hickory switches will outlast an
entire litter of puppies! MAYBE MOORE!! Supplies
limited, so HURRY! Be the first in your club to have
the hickory switch training aid guaranteed for the life
of your dog (which may be much shorter than nature
intended!).

Ask yourself: "HOWE COME DOESN'T JERRY
HURT DOGS TO TRAIN THEM?"

And then just answer: "On AccHOWENT Of
JERRY KNOWS HOWE TO TRAIN DOGS
WITHOUT HURTING THEM."

And THEN SAY OUT LHOWED: "IGNORE
JERRY, HE'S MEAN TO DOG ABUSERS."

You can get all the information you need to
PUPPERLY handle and train your dog using
non force, non confrontational, scientific and
psychological methods, in your FREE copy
of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual.

Your pal, Jerry "The Phony," Howe,
The Puppy Wizard. <{}; ~ ) >
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2 15th July 16:44
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Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since
I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough
of the manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher and the
posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it. This naive
child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marilyn for
putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile crap at
the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging
idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe
we would not have had to hold the head of a really
magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the
needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped
his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into
good behavior. Naive is believing that people that hide
behind fake names are more honest than people that use
their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog
breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing that
people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are going to
just go away because you people act like fools. Why do you
act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really care.

I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and take
it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing. You
would never believe the results, so you'll never know.

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh?
As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to listen to the
box
first?)

Hello People,

Robert Crim was a former Gang Of Thugs Member, and
hated me a much as the rest of our Thugs do. Robert was a
long time friend and prominent contributor to rpdb, till Jerry
came along and smartened him up. He learned the hard
way, and no longer posts to his former pals, because it is
just too painful knowing his pals would rather HURT and
KILL their dogs than to admit that JERRY is RIGHT.

====================

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3 15th July 16:44
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----- Original Message -----
From: BNTDOBES@aol.com
To: jhowe2@bellsouth.net
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should Always
Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They Should NEVER FEEL
GUILTY For Having An Aggressive Dog Euthanized."

Dear Jerry,

It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are that maligning
you and your training manual but tell them from me that it does
work.

Hunter is just doing so well even the people who advocated
putting him down are impressed with him.

I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went over there
to help her cut his nails. She started yelling at him for growling
at
me.

I told her to tell him what a good boy he is instead. Lo and
behold
he stopped growling and I could do his nails. All 4 feet.

My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull method and
my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter has gotten his
enthusiasm back for his training and I couldn't be more pleased.

He even tried to kiss a child the other day. Major break through.
This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat the kids
through
the fence. I can now take him in the car with me again without him
trying to chase cars through the windshield.

So Jerry tell these people that the first rule of dog training is
Do
No Harm.

The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first rule.

Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down. Hunter was diagnosed
aggressive and he is going to stay alive and by my side where he
belongs.

Thank you so much.

Kay

=============

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4 15th July 16:44
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----- Original Message -----
From: BNTDOBES@aol.com
To: jhowe2@bellsouth.net
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should Always
Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They Should NEVER FEEL
GUILTY For Having An Aggressive Dog Euthanized."

Dear Jerry,

It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are that
maligning you and your training manual but tell them
from me that it does work.

Hunter is just doing so well even the people who advocated
putting him down are impressed with him.

I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went over
there to help her cut his nails. She started yelling at him
for growling at me. I told her to tell him what a good boy he
is instead. Lo and behold he stopped growling and I could
do his nails. All 4 feet.

My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull method
and my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter has gotten
his enthusiasm back for his training and I couldn't be more
pleased.

He even tried to kiss a child the other day.

Major break through.

This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat the kids
through the fence. I can now take him in the car with me
again without him trying to chase cars through the windshield.

So Jerry tell these people that the first rule of dog training
is Do No Harm.

The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first
rule.

Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down. Hunter was
diagnosed aggressive and he is going to stay alive and by my
side where he belongs.

Thank you so much.
Kay

========================

----- Original Message -----
From: <BNTDOBES@aol.com>
To: <jhowe2@bellsouth.net>

Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: Head Hunter


----- Original Message -----
From: <BNTDOBES@aol.com>
To: <jhowe2@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Wits end Training


===============

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5 15th July 16:44
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No, you're a sissyboy.

Borrowed from: "Puppy Raising Tips" from
professional trainers, John and Amy Dahl.

"Around four months many puppies can withstand a
correction. Unfortunately this is the time they start
teething and if their mouth hurts, they may act
generally sensitive. If this is the case, be patient and
wait for all those baby teeth to fall out.

In training, retrievers often respond to physical correction
better than verbal correction. While "NO!" is extremely
useful if puppy is about to bite an electrical cord or steal
food off the table, when you are teaching them something
(like obedience) a sharp jerk on their lead or swat with a
stick gets the message across with less emotion and less
effect on their confidence.

If they drop the dummy and act like their mouth hurts
when they are teething, stop all retrieving and wait for
their mouth to feel better. A correction should be just
severe enough to get the dog to respond.

Repeated weak corrections are very stressful to the dog."

END lyingfrosty dahl

If you are interested in purchasing a dignified stick to
lay across you puppy's arse, just send a personal check
or money order in the amount of $30-$40 for a 30"-40"
long whuppin stick.

These all natural hickory switches will outlast an
entire litter of puppies! MAYBE MOORE!! Supplies
limited, so HURRY! Be the first in your club to have
the hickory switch training aid guaranteed for the life
of your dog (which may be much shorter than nature
intended!).

Ask yourself: "HOWE COME DOESN'T JERRY
HURT DOGS TO TRAIN THEM?"

And then just answer: "On AccHOWENT Of
JERRY KNOWS HOWE TO TRAIN DOGS
WITHOUT HURTING THEM."

And THEN SAY OUT LHOWED: "IGNORE
JERRY, HE'S MEAN TO DOG ABUSERS."

You can get all the information you need to
PUPPERLY handle and train your dog using
non force, non confrontational, scientific and
psychological methods, in your FREE copy
of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual.

Your pal, Jerry "The Phony," Howe,
The Puppy Wizard. <{}; ~ ) >
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6 15th July 16:45
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HOWEDY lyingdogDUMMY aka tommy soronson,


<arfenarfSPAMBLOCK@hotmail.com>

BWEEHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

She means the DOG ABUSER who taught
her HOWE to choke and intimidatate her dog
and lock IT in a box and call THAT, trainin.


AS STATED: "BWEEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!"


The Puppy Wizard TOLD YOU SO.


INDEEDY? You think ed w of PET LOSS will
have someWON else's comfortin words to share?


INDEEDY. You MURDER 10% of the dogs you abuse.


Unless she ATTACKS them for LOOKIN.


Yeah? Let's ask amy & phil fernandes or C. L.
or ChadL, or professor SCRUFF SHAKE or the
staff at UofPA, Cornell, UofWI, or any veterinary
/ behavior SPECIALISTS.

Or you could ask any of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Students who've CURED the same
same same same PROBLEMS NEARLY INSTANTLY withHOWET HURTIN noWON.

She's been ABUSING her dog since DAY WON.


NOT with her kids arHOWEND.


Cause she's SCARED of GETTIN HURT like
HOWE she been TEACHING her dog to GET HURT.


BWEEHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

You mean by handling the dog as taught in
your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual?


Then you KILL the dog, lyingdogDUMMY.


Dog trainin AIN'T LUCK, dog abuser.

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog
into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that
hide behind fake names are more honest than people that
use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante
dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than
those that have studied and lived by their craft for
decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really care.


I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll never know.


I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.

Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

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From: KWBrown (arfenarfNOSPAM@hotmail.com)
Subject: Re: Electric collar users
View: Complete Thread (162 articles)
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Date: 2004-01-06 11:43:09 PST

Ouch. I stand corrected. Birdshot it is.

I wonder whether the much higher performance levels you are
talking about re what
seems to me to be leading to FTs being dominated by GoGoGoGo
boneheaded Labs. If
we can teach 'em to do more and more complicated things, they'll
have to be
stronger and tougher and higher-drive to succeed.

No e-collar in the world, no training style there is, will ever
turn Storm the FCR
into a FTCh. She just doesn't have it. She has her own ideas
about how to
accomplish the job and, under enough pressure to do something MY
way instead of
HER way, just folds up and (mentally, if not physically) leaves
the scene.

JH, definitely this year. SH, next. MH? I don't think so. But
she'll be a
charming hunting companion nonetheless, even if she's too smart to
go THROUGH the
bush when she knows damn well she could go around. Kate
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PAY THE PIPER, DOG ABUSER.

From: KWBrown (arfenarfNOSPAM@hotmail.com)
Subject: Re: TPW, I like your style (ninnyboy)
Date: 2003-09-25 15:24:35 PST


Oh, but Shell:

We have plenty of clues who or what you are. You've provided
tons! You,
Shell, are either:

1) A Shill
2) A Pill or
3) A Gull. Kate
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Subject: Re: Training a dog through negative reinforcement


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Date: 2003-09-24 07:53:08 PST


My newsreader, your head...

The FBI is bound to shut us all down any minute. Kate
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From: KWBrown (arfenarf@spamblock.hotmail.com)
Subject: Re: Warning about Dog Trainer
Date: 2003-09-06 23:14:31 PST

We're too dang tired to be gloating as much as
we deserve. By the time this house is unpacked,
the monsoon will have begun - but *next* summer,
look out for us floating, floating, floating.

--
Kate
****a the ESS, Storm the FCR
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