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31 6th February 08:54
phil stovell
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I've never heard of rebound effects, so we can't have discussed it. Can
you give me a link? (It does make some sense from what you say further on).

If you withdraw cannabis from me (and others) I get strange dreams and the
sweats. These affects don't bother me, in fact the dreams are sometimes
lucid (I can direct them) which can be enjoyable. Call it withdrawal,
rebound, whatever. Just don't try to tell me that withdrawing cannabis has
no effect. It does on me. At most, it's a minor annoyance, at least it's
quite pleasant :-). Note it's 06:10 here and I'm ****ing on my first NRT
gum, I'm still a nicotine addict after 4.5 years.

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"They said I should not take him to the police, but rather
let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife"
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32 6th February 08:54
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The first posting in this thread by Jasbird refers to it:
http://www.medpagetoday.com/2005MeetingCoverage/2005APAMeeting/tb/3404

"Citing the case of benzodiazepines, Dr. Seivewright noted that the
central argument for a withdrawal syndrome with those drugs was the
emergence of novel symptoms that patients had not previously had but
incurred after stopping. In the case of marijuana, he said, "I'm a bit
concerned about how you can call these withdrawal symptoms" without
knowing that they aren't a rebound effect or part of a pre-existing condition."

Same here (abstaining from regular cannabis use affects my body and
mind in various ways), but for me it was only really hard to refrain
from nicotine the first few months after I quit back in 1999.
Abstaining from regular pot use is fairly easy compared to abstaining
from regular tobacco use in my experience. I wouldn't qualify my daily
pot use as an addiction because it hardly takes any effort to regularly
abstain for months on end.
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33 6th February 08:54
phil stovell
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I missed that, I haven't had time to read this whole thread. This rebound
thing sounds very likely to me. IMO, an addiction is when one craves for
the drug. That has never been the case with me and cannabis, in fact it
was only through experiment that I noticed the effects. Colds give me the
sweats anyway and I used to have lucid dreams before I ever touched the herb.


I've never used cannabis daily but I still use NRT daily :-(.

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"They said I should not take him to the police, but rather
let him pay a dowry for my goat because he used it as his wife"
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34 6th February 08:54
ollie clark
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I get those and I'd call them withdrawal. I didn't get them before I started
smoking. However, I also get insomnia when I stop smoking but, as I had that
before I started and it stopped when I started smoking that would be a rebound effect.


I've never given up tobacco. I did try once and it lasted for 14 hours. I
regularly "give up" cannabis with no problem at all.
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