abarker401

First off, I realize I'm new here and I don't fully understand your history
with the group, which does seem decidedly hostile. I don't personally view you
as a troll -- you would never have invested the time and energy to write books
on the subject if you were. I'm also certain that you believe your theory is
correct. I can't yet say for sure what I think of your theory because I
haven't read your books.

I completely agree with you that migraine has never been proven to be an
organic illness -- in fact, not much about migraine has ever been successfully
proven. ( I'm not really familiar with your experimentation but it seems to me
that your sample is too small and your timeframe too short to claim complete
success at this point. Also, what have you done to measure longterm results
and the possible placebo effect of initial attention from the therapist?) If
your method has worked for some, so in fact have other treatment options.
There are those for whom tryptans (and other forms of medical and nutritional
therapies) completely eradicate migraines. A definitive cause of migraine just
hasn't been identified to date. I neither reject or accept your theory because
I don't really know enough about it to do so.

I think you do present with a holier-than-thou attitude here and I'm not really
sure whether it's intentional or not. For instance, in a previous post you
referred to migraineurs as people who cry and suffer nobly and heroically. To
me, this inciteful language shows contempt towards the migraineur -- there's an
inherent inference that he or she enjoys suffering, likes being admired as
long-suffering and doesn't really want to remedy the situation. You certainly
can't blame people for becoming hostile when you perceive them in this manner.
I'm just curious why you persist with this sort of presentation. I'm simply
suggesting that people might be more receptive to your ideas if you presented
them in a less emotionally-charged manner.

Alex

alloker

I have provided enough information on my theory and therapy of
migraine in my posts and also related several original case histories.
There are more case histories in my books. You can be definitively
convinced that my theory is correct only if you believe that my case
histories are not invented. And the best thing you can do to find out
the truth about migraine and about my theory and therapy of it is
either to be treated by me or to learn my method of therapy and use it
to cure yourself and other migraineurs. A theory can be proved to be
correct, or viable, not by any amount of reasoning but by applying it
to particular problems. The test of a theory is its usefulness in
explaining, predicting, and controlling the observed phenomena.
Controlling the phenomena primarily means successful psychotherapy
concerning a theory of psychological disorders. My posts and books
contain many explanations and predictions of observed phenomena, but
the cures realized by using my method is the most convincing proof of
the viability of this method and the theory on which it is based.
Several patients have been freed from their symptoms just by reading
my books, because my method of therapy is self-applicable in most
cases. I am willing and ready to treat migraineurs by email free of
charge. The process begins by filling out my diagnostic questionnaire,
which is contained in one of my posts to this group and in my books.

My research work has been concerned with the lateralization of
cerebral functions. In my theory, understanding lateralization has a
key role in understanding automatic responses, because what is called
"the unconscious" is the right brain in this context. So my research
-- on lateralization -- is not directly and exclusively related to
migraine.

It is my intermittent the****utic work since 1988 that proves
definitively that my theory and method of therapy are correct, or
usable. I have talked to about 150 migraine and tension headache
patients, besides others suffering from other symptoms of neurosis. In
all those cases, the etiology of headache was as predicted by my
theory, and the precise behavior of the patient that was found
unacceptable by his/her unconscious was identified and dealt with.
Placebo effect is out of question, becuase the cure is almost never
realized before the precise cause of the illness, i.e., the
self-harming mistake, is identified. Dream interpretation confirms the
diagnosis, because dreams have the same basic function as symptoms and
carry more information than symptoms do. About 120 of those headache
patients were cured in very short times. I followed some of them up to
10 years. Relapse occurred only in two cases due to withholding
information and securing secondary gains from the illness. About 30
patients did not return after the first session. But even some
patients who had only a short conversation with me were cured, as I
learned later. They are included in the 120 cases. One patient who was
cured developed psychosomatic symptoms other than those of migraine 8
years later. Her self-harming behavior was the same as in her migraine
days but was related to a different issue that necessitated different
symptoms as carriers of the appropriate messages in ****ogic language.


As mentioned above, my method worked for all migraineurs who accepted
being treated, whereas the insufficiency of all existing methods is
attested even by the messages that migraineurs have been sending to
newsgroups, Ronda's Migraine Page, and other sites. My theory explains
the definitive general cause of migraine, and my method of therapy
identifies the particular and precise definitive cause of it in each particular case.

What happens to us and what we do are largely determined outside our
control by our environment in addition to our genes. I discovered the
etiology of migraine and other psychological disorders and the
functions of many other automatic responses not because I am holier
than anyone else but because environmental conditions forced me
painfully to work hard to that end for several decades. Environmental
conditions kill some persons in accidents at young ages, make others
criminals and still others successful businessmen.

I have explained -- perhaps without sufficient emphasis -- that
migraine is caused by harmful events that have been accidentally
realized and with which nobody could cope. The case histories that I
posted clarify this point. In fact, a member of the group wrote in her
reply to one of the case histories something like this: "Anyone would
become ill under those conditions." This is the truth about migraine
and most other illnesses. Migraineurs do not become ill for no reason
or because an insufficiency of their own. For example, when I
reconstructed the causal chain of events that ended by the production
of the migraine symptoms of one of my patients, the oldest events that
I reached in this investigation turned out to be the destruction that
Hitler had caused in Europe and his annihilation of the generations
that would contribute most to its reconstruction. This means that
without Hitler's misdeeds and without any one of the accidental causal
links in the chain, that person would not become migrainous. Events of
such dimensions are not involved in every case of migraine, but
harmful events that are uncontrollable are the causes of the illness
in every case.

Migraineurs abstain from using my method of therapy and assume a
hostile attitude toward me because they are afraid that, if my theory
is correct, therapy will hurt their pride and self-confidence by
exposing their self-harming mistakes. This is in fact why they abstain
from dealing consciously with some of their problems, and this is why
repression in general exists. This fear is in reality baseless, as
explained above. My therapy restores pride and self-confidence, it
does not do the opposite.

My talk about noble and heroic suffering was not the cause but the
consequence of the hostile attitude that I met for reasons explained
above. My aim was to make the migraineurs think again -- before I
stopped posting -- about their motives and their methods of dealing
with their problems. Everything considered, migraineurs "have nothing
to fear but fear itself." Fear is an automatic response that prepares
one to perceive and cope with dangers. But all automatic responses
need to be consciously understood, evaluated, and used in a more
precise and rational way than the unconscious which produces them is
capable of doing. This is valid for migraine symptoms too.

Altan

karen

Hi Lavon,

I'm hanging in there. Harley keeps going through the presents and finding
anything edible and having his own little present party in the middle of the
night. The kids are all ready for the holidays and excited to hear that
their sister is coming home. I'm broke LOL but what else is new. And no
headaches to speak of even after a ton of dental work this month so I'd have
to say things are going pretty well I guess.

Hey! We found another black dauchsie baby up in Idaho! Diablo is getting
so big!!!

Big hugs
Karen

karen

oh please Alton,
there isn't anything heroic about what brought on the tears. I had dealt
with 4 close friends dying, 4 car accidents (not counting the ones that the
people died in) and losing two dear fuzzy friends that had been in my home
for 15 and 20 years.

Do you have friends? Would you not feel bad if you lost hem to death?

Would YOU cry?

well, I do
Karen

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sagelechat

I have cried with you (((((Karen))))), my friend. I suppose there are
those who don't *feel* what we do, pity, isn't it?

Hugs,

~Sage

karen

Yeah Sage,
it really is a sad statement isn't it?
crying is a part of life the same as laughter.
I kind of feel lucky that i CAN do both.
maybe it's the alien in him...ya think?

big hugs dear friend,
Karen

alloker

Karen,
I said migraineurs nobly cry and heroically suffer. Crying is an
automatic response of self-criticism and self-evaluation created by
evolution. Tears block the sight of the external world, and the
effectiveness of the other channels of perception too is reduced. The
person is thus left all by herself/himself and engages in
self-criticism and self-evaluation.

In the case of the loss of loved ones, one asks oneself questions like
the following: "Have I done everything I could do to help them? What
else could have I done? Have I hurt them in any way? What have I done
to deserve this loss" This is evidently a noble attitude. Similar
questions are asked in cases of harm suffered directly personally.

Self-evaluation involves questions like this: "Why should this happen
to me? Doesn't God love me? Why am I not protected? Am I worthless?"
Persons who cry ask such questions sometimes loudly, and a little
introspection too can expose them.

Working on such questions consumes the excessive tension, or stress,
that was generated to do this work. The result can be relaxation and
inner peace if the questions receive agreeable answers.

A patient of mine, a young woman, cried and had head headache each
time she learned that someone was hurt in any way in the family, in
the neighborhood, or anywhere in the world. She could not watch TV and
could not read newspapers fearing to find bad news in them. It turned
out that she was blaming herself for not being able to help her
father, her mother, and her brother-in-law who had died in that order.
Each of them had stayed in bed for several months, and the patient had
tried to help them. A dream of hers told her that she was living in a
house that was too big for her, and that she should move to a house
that is just big enough for her. This meant that she should not worry
so much about the misfortunes of others. We reviewed the events of her
life and of the lives of those she loved and lost. The reevaluation of
those events and the message carried by her dream terminated her self
accusations and her migraines.

Anna O. took care of her sick father as a night nurse. When her father
died, she developed several psychosomatic symptoms other than
headache. Freud's teacher Breuer discovered that each symptom was
related to an instance of Anna's failure to help her father. And each
symptom explained that the related failure was due to accidental
causes that were of physiological and even physical nature, not of
mental nature. Her symptoms vanished one after the other as their
origins became exposed, although the meanings of the symptoms were not
understood by Breuer. This is the first case that was treated by a
method similar to psycho****ysis and became the origin of that method.
Anna called that method "the talking cure" and "chimney sweeping."
The first migraine patient whom I cured said, "I now see that I have
done great injustice to myself for all those years."

I feel like crying when I read about the sufferings of migraineurs and
others who have psychological problems, because I know that I can help
them if I am allowed to do it. But I don't cry; I try to help them
instead, despite their negative attitudes.

Altan

cyndeer

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See, now here's where I absolutely and without question know you're
wrong...at least where it pertains to me. What my unconscious was actually
doing was piping up, making it's presence known, doing everything it had to
in order to be heard. Yes, it *does* trying to protect me, but not from what
you say or think. It does it's darnedest to try to protect me from people
like *you*. I didn't ignore the opinion of my unconscious. I did just the
opposite. I went with it. The first thought/response that popped into my
head which then led to my post that is now the subject of this one came
directly from my unconscious. I mean, I wasn't sitting here having a whole
thought process, an entire conversation in my head, about what an idiot my
conscious may think you are. But there it was. Instantly. Out of nowhere,
the first thing that popped right into my head was "idiot". So I guess, what
you're actually telling me is that it was a darn good thing I didn't end up
talking myself out of posting that, right? That the honest to goodness best
thing I could have done for myself was exactly what I did...go with it and
post it...right? Whew! Boy am I glad I did the exact right thing that time!

Cyndi

cyndeer

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See, now here's where I absolutely and without question know you're
wrong...at least where it pertains to me. What my unconscious was actually
doing was piping up, making it's presence known, doing everything it had to
in order to be heard. Yes, it *does* trying to protect me, but not from what
you say or think. It does it's darnedest to try to protect me from people
like *you*. I didn't ignore the opinion of my unconscious. I did just the
opposite. I went with it. The first thought/response that popped into my
head which then led to my post that is now the subject of this one came
directly from my unconscious. I mean, I wasn't sitting here having a whole
thought process, an entire conversation in my head, about what an idiot my
conscious may think you are. But there it was. Instantly. Out of nowhere,
the first thing that popped right into my head was "idiot". So I guess, what
you're actually telling me is that it was a darn good thing I didn't end up
talking myself out of posting that, right? That the honest to goodness best
thing I could have done for myself was exactly what I did...go with it and
post it...right? Whew! Boy am I glad I did the exact right thing that time!

Cyndi
who most probably won't be responding again in this
thread due to having now become bored with it

cyndeer

Ack!! Yikes!!!! It wasn't me....really it wasn't!!! It was a laptop error, I
swear it was!!!! If that doesn't fly, ummm, lemmee see....oh, okay.....it
was a blonde moment??? My evil twin???

Sorry for the basically double post all. That part really is true. It's the
same post, all but the little bit under my name on the second one.

SORRY!!!!

I'll be doing my best to not let it happen again.