ironjustice

<<snip>>these plasma amino acids could be used to assess the compliance
of subjects participating in clinical trials based on total vegetarian
diets and omnivore diets<<snip>>

PLASMA AMINO ACIDS DISCRIMINATE BETWEEN TOTAL VEGETARIANS AND
NON-VEGETARIANS. Alfredo Mejia, Merritt C. Horning and Albert Sanchez.
Nutrition Department, Loma Linda University, Loma Linda, CA, USA;
Lassen Foundation, Chico, CA, USA; and Pacific Health Education Center,
Bakersfield, CA, USA.


Subjects consuming total vegetarian diets have very low risk of
coronary heart disease (CHD) compared to the general population. They
also have a unique plasma amino acid profile, including higher levels
of arginine (Arg) and glycine (Gly); and lower levels of lysine (Lys)
and valine (Val) when compared with subjects who eat regular omnivore
diets. We performed discriminant ****ysis to determine whether the
plasma levels of Arg, Gly, Lys, and Val are predictive of the type of
diet ingested. The sample population consisted of 38 healthy total
vegetarians (20 men, 18 women) and 53 omnivores (20 men, 33 women).
Plasma levels of Arg, Gly, Lys, and Val are predictive of the type of
diet 94% of the times in all subjects, and when the data was ****yzed
by ***, 95% for male and 98% for female. Plasma levels of Arg, Gly,
Lys, and Val can be used as metabolic markers to discriminate between
subjects eating omnivore and total plant food diets with >93%
certainty. Those amino acids should be included simultaneously in the
discriminant ****ysis equation; because if they are used individually,
their predictive value is weaker (Val, 65%; Lys, 71%; Gly, 72%; and
Arg, 81%). Discriminant ****ysis based on Arg, Gly, Lys, and Val is
highly predictive to discriminate among subjects eating total
vegetarian diet or omnivore diet. Thus, these plasma amino acids could
be used to assess the compliance of subjects participating in clinical
trials based on total vegetarian diets and omnivore diets. In addition,
we hypothesize that the unique plasma amino acid profile of total
vegetarians may be a protective factor against CHD.

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Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
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Man Is A Herbivore!
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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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"Curbing pandemics" was not in the article. Such things are human to
human spread of microbes, not what one routinely consumes. Here is an
abstract showing one example where low iron promotes infection and heart
problems:

'Serum iron, infection and inflammation; effects on coronary risk'

Scand Cardiovasc J. 2004 Dec;38(6):345-8.

"CONCLUSIONS: Our data suggest an association between low serum iron level
and coronary risk. The association is not independent, but is related to
the fact that chronic infections and inflammation are accompanied with low
serum iron."

manky badger

I have been led to believe that chronic inflammations were linked with HIGH
serum iron levels.
Perhaps I was misled ?

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"I have been led to believe that chronic inflammations were linked with
HIGH serum iron levels. Perhaps I was misled ?"

No, your thinking is correct. The specific infection in the study was
herpes simplex virus. Our friend needs to know that the world is not the
cookie cutter place he wants it to be. In complex dynamic systems the
usual is not always what happens. For example, vit c is highly regarded
as an antioxidant, but in some metabolic situations it is for a time a
pro-oxidant.


The context of chronic inflammation is often related to tissue damage and
the release of free iron which supports bacteria growth. In another
context, many children and adults who have parasite infections have low
iron status as a result which is a context of chronic inflammation.
These parasites can lead to blindness and other disfigurement disorders
and even death. The world is a messy place, including biological systems
and pat answers don't serve.

ironjustice

No it means you BOTH are .. s-t-u-p-i-d ..-

Infection BRINGS .. anemia .. 'iron withholding mechanism' .. therefore
leaving one with what .. might .. APPEAR to .. BE .. iron deficiency ..
but is in FACT .. not .. iron deficiency ..

Maybe you should .. bone up .. BEFORE .. you attempt to A-C-T like you
... actually .. 'understand' .. what is going .. on ..

Maybe you should take some notes from these .. fellas ..

Seeeeeeeee .... noooooooooooooo .. iron ..... deficiency ..

These guys were able to spot it ..

How come you weren't .. ?
Stupidity .. ?
<<snip>>
Mean serum iron significantly lower in infants with urinary tract infection
<<snip>>
<<snip>>
iron deficiency is not a major factor
<<snip>>


Volume 5, Issue 2, 1999, Page 344-349

Z. El-Foghy, F. Sagher and S. Al-Agili

ABSTRACT Serum iron, serum total iron binding capacity and tranferrin
saturation levels were measured in 45 infants, of whom 19 had urinary
tract infections confirmed by positive suprapubic aspiration. The
control group comprised 26 healthy infants with negative results. Mean
serum iron and transferrin saturation values were significantly lower
in infants with urinary tract infection compared with the control group
(P < 0.01 and P < 0.001 respectively), especially if the cultured
organism was Escherichia coli (P < 0.01, P < 0.02). Total iron binding
capacity was within the normal range. We conclude that iron deficiency
is not a major factor in the etiopathogenesis of urinary tract
infection in Libyan infants.

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Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com


Man Is A Herbivore!
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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

manky badger

I'm merely repeating what I learned from you, Tommy.
Perhaps YOU got it wrong?


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ironjustice

Which would distinguish those with higher iron levels / 'meat eaters'
... with lowered immunity due to .. iron .. EXCESS .. from their
vegetarian .. with heightened immunity .. counterparts.

This iron-withholding mechanism becomes compromised .. unable to
sequester / withhold iron .. AWAY .. from the invader / pathogen.

Immunobiology
Volume 211, Issue 4 , 2 June 2006, Pages 295-314
doi:10.1016/j.imbio.2006.02.004
Copyright © 2006 Elsevier GmbH All rights reserved.

REVIEW
Iron-withholding strategy in innate immunity

Sek Tong Onga, Jason Zhe Shan Hob, Bow Hoc, 1 and Jeak Ling Dinga, 1, ,


aDepartment of Biological Sciences, National University of Singapore,
14 Science Drive 4, Singapore 117543
bFaculty of Medicine, Imperial College London, South Kensington, London
SW7 2AZ, UK
cDepartment of Microbiology, National University of Singapore, 5
Science Drive 2, Singapore 117597

Received 13 January 2006; accepted 14 February 2006. Available online
17 April 2006.

Abstract
The knowledge of how organisms fight infections has largely been built
upon the ability of host innate immune molecules to recognize microbial
determinants. Although of overwhelming importance, pathogen recognition
is but only one of the facets of innate immunity. A primitive yet
effective antimicrobial mechanism which operates by depriving microbial
organisms of their nutrients has been brought into the forefront of
innate immunity once again. Such a tactic is commonly referred to as
the iron-withholding strategy of innate immunity. In this review, we
introduce various vertebrate iron-binding proteins and their
invertebrate homologues, so as to impress upon readers an obscured arm
of innate immune defense. An excellent comprehension of the mechanics
of innate immunity paves the way for the possibility that novel
antimicrobial the****utics may emerge one day to overcome the prevalent
antibiotic resistance in bacteria.

Keywords: Innate immunity; Iron sequestration; Ferritin; Hepcidin;
Lipocalin; Nramp; Transferrin

Abbreviations: DMT1, divalent cation transporter 1; JNK, c-Jun
N-terminal kinase; LPS, lipopolysaccharides; Nramp, natural
resistance-associated macrophage protein; PAMPs, pathogen-associated
molecular patterns; PRRs, pattern recognition receptors; SPI2,
Salmonella pathogenicity island 2; TNF-a, tumor necrosis factor-a

Corresponding author. Tel.: +65 68742776; fax: +65 67792486.
1 Co-senior authors.

Immunobiology
Volume 211, Issue 4 , 2 June 2006, Pages 295-314

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Then they cough up .. on .. your .. kid ..

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Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

"Which would distinguish those with higher iron levels / 'meat eaters'
..=2E with lowered immunity due to .. iron .. EXCESS .. from their
vegetarian .. with heightened immunity .. counterparts."

Ah, the critical flaw in the logic of the iron causes all disease notion.
Consumption of meat doesn't equal excess iron stores. The body has two
ways to limit iron stores from any source. Please tell us what they are.
Just to use the bird flu as an example, the places in se asia where it has
had the largest impact have little or no meat consumption as a rule.
Trying to connect dots, even if the exist at all, with a spray gun always
fails.

ironjustice

<<snip>>these plasma amino acids could be used to assess the compliance
of subjects participating in clinical trials based on total vegetarian
diets and omnivore diets<<snip>>

PLASMA AMINO ACIDS DISCRIMINATE BETWEEN TOTAL VEGETARIANS AND
NON-VEGETARIANS. Alfredo Mejia, Merritt C. Horning and Albert Sanchez.
Nutrition Department, Loma Linda University, Loma Linda, CA, USA;
Lassen Foundation, Chico, CA, USA; and Pacific Health Education Center,
Bakersfield, CA, USA.


Subjects consuming total vegetarian diets have very low risk of
coronary heart disease (CHD) compared to the general population. They
also have a unique plasma amino acid profile, including higher levels
of arginine (Arg) and glycine (Gly); and lower levels of lysine (Lys)
and valine (Val) when compared with subjects who eat regular omnivore
diets. We performed discriminant ****ysis to determine whether the
plasma levels of Arg, Gly, Lys, and Val are predictive of the type of
diet ingested. The sample population consisted of 38 healthy total
vegetarians (20 men, 18 women) and 53 omnivores (20 men, 33 women).
Plasma levels of Arg, Gly, Lys, and Val are predictive of the type of
diet 94% of the times in all subjects, and when the data was ****yzed
by ***, 95% for male and 98% for female. Plasma levels of Arg, Gly,
Lys, and Val can be used as metabolic markers to discriminate between
subjects eating omnivore and total plant food diets with >93%
certainty. Those amino acids should be included simultaneously in the
discriminant ****ysis equation; because if they are used individually,
their predictive value is weaker (Val, 65%; Lys, 71%; Gly, 72%; and
Arg, 81%). Discriminant ****ysis based on Arg, Gly, Lys, and Val is
highly predictive to discriminate among subjects eating total
vegetarian diet or omnivore diet. Thus, these plasma amino acids could
be used to assess the compliance of subjects participating in clinical
trials based on total vegetarian diets and omnivore diets. In addition,
we hypothesize that the unique plasma amino acid profile of total
vegetarians may be a protective factor against CHD.

Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

"Curbing pandemics" was not in the article. Such things are human to
human spread of microbes, not what one routinely consumes. Here is an
abstract showing one example where low iron promotes infection and heart
problems:

'Serum iron, infection and inflammation; effects on coronary risk'

Scand Cardiovasc J. 2004 Dec;38(6):345-8.

"CONCLUSIONS: Our data suggest an association between low serum iron level
and coronary risk. The association is not independent, but is related to
the fact that chronic infections and inflammation are accompanied with low
serum iron."