mike1

*Bullshit*.

....Ephedrine-hypocloride (the athsma med) can be used in meth-man, but
it has NOT been banned.

....Meanwhile, weight-loss product herbal ephedra (essentially ground-up
weed compressed into tabs along with caffeine and aspirin and mineral
additives -- impurities that no mether is going to want to deal with
trying to separate out) is what is being banned.

....Herbal ephedra NOT marketed in the form of weight-loss tabs (i.e.,
"traditional Chinese medicine") is EXEMPT from the ban.

IOW, the *only* ephedra which is being banned is the ephedra which
competes with the trillion-dollar/year parmecuetical snake-oil industry
which has co-opted and now runs the FDA. This is why kills-test-subjects
products like Viagra that cost $9 a pill are approved while SAFE and
NON-PATENTABLE products (like ephedra) are outlawed.

In short, you "don't care" when your country becomes a communazi
nanny-state, and the reason for that is because you're a *moron* with a
slave-mentality.

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skipperbeers

I don't like the language or the attitude. It's unfortunate that there's some
truth to the comments, though.

In 1967, my dad got a Jeep Wagoneer with seat belts, the first car I recall
having them and made us all buckle up because he was safety conscious. The
government didn't have to tell us to do it, and as long as they weren't in our
car, we didn't think those who didn't "click it" should get a "ticket"
(Michigan campaign, not sure if "click it or ticket is national or local.)
When I was 16 and giving fellow baseball team members a ride, they certainly
were annoyed at my seat belt rule. My dad said I woldn't be driving if I
didn't buckle it, I listened and developed the habit. Now I believe they can
stop you if they even suspect you are not wearing a seat belt? It's absurd.

They chink away at our liberty a little at a time. And it affects the medical
industry, the nutrition industry, and thyroid treatment. The legal
implications of thyroid treatment don't allow the profit margins of those whose
lobbyists have influence, so they got rid of Dr. Barry Durrant-Peatfield in the
UK and then immediately went after Dr. David Derry in British Columbia, Canada.
Even though he had a lot of his patients supporting him, they alone couldn't
create enough of an uproar to make the British Columbian government reconsider.


Some day, those in the United States are going to have to start getting upset
about the loss of liberty. Either that, or lose it. It would be a terrible
thing to many of us if there wasn't enough profit in Armour, so the lobbyists
went after a ban on it. The trend in the loss of liberty for the common man is
scary. ON the other hand, under our current president, the rich and the
industrial polluters have a lot more of it.

Skipper

kevin j. coolidge

no, I'm a sheep,baaaaah

kevin j. coolidge

and if you read closer. He asked if ephedrine not ephedra could be used for
meth. Perhaps we ought to be more scared of carless people like you than the
government. I actually was not thrilled with the ephedra ban. I don't use
it, not because it doesn't work, but because it has a rebound affect. Good
for losing fat short term, but you usually gain most of it back if you are
allready fairly lean. A very overweight person probably wouldn't, but they
probably would be at increased risk. In case you aren't aware. LOL stands
for laughing outloud. I was trying to denote sarcasm, but I obviously went
over your head. Sorry about that chum

mike1

[The first of two top-posting dingbats scribbled...]

You stupid ass; if you're going to make a claim like that, you should at
least bother to READ THE MATERIAL WHICH YOU REQUOTED IN ITS ENTIRETY.

Now go back and re-familiarize yourself with what "JimmySmith" originally wrote.

"We"? Do you have a gerbil somwhere?

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mike1

The language and attitude are reserved for those who *earn* them.


This has been going on full-blast for a whole century.

Marxist twaddle.

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kevin j. coolidge

it's people like you that give weightlifters a bad name, with all your
ranting and raving, you don't get listened to. Take up a real cause


man is

mike1

The nice audience will duly note that you couldn't handle the arguments.

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kevin j. coolidge

what argument? You moron.

mike1

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These ones, dingbat, in this very thread:
<cite>

Newsgroups: alt.support.diet,alt.sport.weightlifting,alt.suppo rt.thyroid
Subject: Re: Ephedra Ban
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:47:11 -0600 From: Mike Schneider
"Kevin J. Coolidge" <kcool@epix.net> wrote:

[Yo, Dingbat: You see Jimmy writing "ephedra" up there instead of
"ephedrine"? Wence then your retort, a few posts back,"...and if you
read closer. He asked if ephedrine not ephedra could be used for
meth." Are you blind, forgetful, or just functionally illiterate?]


*Bullshit*.

....Ephedrine-hypocloride (the athsma med) can be used in meth-man, but
it has NOT been banned.

....Meanwhile, weight-loss product herbal ephedra (essentially ground-up
weed compressed into tabs along with caffeine and aspirin and mineral
additives -- impurities that no mether is going to want to deal with
trying to separate out) is what is being banned.

....Herbal ephedra NOT marketed in the form of weight-loss tabs (i.e.,
"traditional Chinese medicine") is EXEMPT from the ban.

IOW, the *only* ephedra which is being banned is the ephedra which
competes with the trillion-dollar/year parmecuetical snake-oil industry
which has co-opted and now runs the FDA. This is why kills-test-subjects
products like Viagra that cost $9 a pill are approved while SAFE and
NON-PATENTABLE products (like ephedra) are outlawed.

In short, you "don't care" when your country becomes a communazi
nanny-state, and the reason for that is because you're a *moron* with a
slave-mentality.

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