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1 7th August 21:21
kajikit
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I'm fat. I've always been fat. I always WILL be fat. I accept that and
most of the time I don't care... I'm just me and you can like it or
lump it. I don't see the point in starving myself to try and shrink
myself down to an 'acceptable' size... but I have a little problem
called PCOS and hypoglycemia and I'm SUPPOSED to be following a
sugar-free lowish-carb diet to try and control my bloodsugar. I did it
for two years religiously... but now I just can't seem to make myself
care anymore, or not enough to follow it anyway. I LIKE chocolate and
icecream and cake. I LIKE desserts and bread and rice. For two years I
watched the rest of the family eat them and stuck to fruit... and it
made me miserable! My way of controlling my bloodsugar right now is to
eat whatever I want whenever I want it and to trust that the levels
don't drop or spike too much. I know it's not healthy... but every
time I try and modify my behaviour again I rebel and wreck it in short
order because my brain says 'you're dieting! Nyah nyah nyah nyah! Look
at you - you can't have this and that and the other and everyone else
is eating it just to spite you!'

I can't seem to mentally differentiate between dieting to lose weight
(something I decided against YEARS ago because it's pointless and
doesn't work for me and just makes me miserable) and modifying my diet
to improve my health.

(sigh)

Does anyone here have a clue what I'm talking about?

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2 7th August 21:21
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In article <n17shvoeamkpu7v6itapema80dcm39r1ct@4ax.com>, Kajikit
<kaji@labyrinth.net.au> writes:

*sigh* oh yes, I sure do. UNFORTUNATELY.


Cheryl :-)

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3 7th August 21:21
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I sure hear you. I just wish people would leave me alone. It was really hot
here yesterday ( 91 and humid ; which I hate).
I went to a store for a few items, ran in and as I was leaving, I heard one
young female clerk say to the other " Did you see that fat woman sweating?" "
Ohhhh gross!"
I wanted to turn around and give her a piece of my mind, but I didn't have the
stomach for it.

I know in my mind that she must sweat too; if she didn't she would be dead. It
still doesn't help to know that when people are obviously laughing behind your
back.

I also have a disorder of my sympathetic nervous system and I frequently sweat
on my face. My underarms can be bone dry, but my face is dripping. I get to the
point where I now carry a damp washcloth everywhere. There is surgery for this
problem, but when they cut facial nerves, there are complications sometimes.
ie. a drooping eyelid. I figure if I got to age 53 without that, I will just go
on as I am. It's to the point where I don't even go out unless I have to. I
get panic attacks now as I fear being laughed at for my weight or sweating or
some other so called 'problem'.

I am fortunate (no blessed) to have the world's most wonderful husband. He has
never had a weight problem, yet he never says a word about my weight. After
living with a father who told 'fat' jokes, it was a welcome change.

I am 5'6" and 260lbs., Type 2 diabetic and hypertensive ( though that is
controlled with medication). I probably had diabetes for 10 years before my
doctor caught it, so now I have the complication of neuropathy in my feet too.

I recently purchased a re***bant bike because my doctor is always harping about
my weight. I rode it regularly for 2 weeks until I started to have pain in my
heel. I went to the podiatrist and it is a acute achilles tendon problem. Now
my foot is in a cast. He said if this tendon ruptures I won't be able to walk
at all!

This is typical of what happens when I start some new exercise program. I wind
up worse off :-)

Anyway, I am glad I found this group. Sorry for rambling so long -- Lil
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4 7th August 21:21
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You know, I think being fat and sweaty and having the world's most
wonderful husband beats the hell out of being a shallow, rude shop
clerk. I know which one I'd pick. --Eva Whitley
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5 7th August 21:22
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Attempting to post on the off-chance that the post will actually
make it this time (I've posted before but mostly lurked)

I have sort of a clue, but from a different perspective...

I'm on a way of eating for health reasons (permanently), and it's
partly due to food sensitivities. For me, eliminating the foods
which made me feel like crap is a blessing, and I don't feel
deprived. I feel released. My body feels better. This is the
first time I've been able to consciously reject certain edibles
regardless of taste, simply because the way I *feel* makes
it so much worth it.

That having been said, as a result of my change in eating, I
*have* lost quite a bit of weight. Therefore it makes it look like
*THAT* is the reason I've changed my eating habits. But it's
not. My newer eating habits are with me for life, weight or no
weight. Yet, to other people, it looks like I am on some wacky
"food restriction" diet because it was written in some book somewhere
(that I've likely not read). Forget the fact that if I eat food "X",
I will feel like crap for 3 days.

That having been said, I'd be dishonest to refrain from admitting that
I *like* having lost the weight, but does that make me someone who
is now eating a certain way FOR weight loss? Does that interfere with
the idea of fat-acceptance? I don't know. I'm far from being thin,
nor do I have any grandiose designs to become "thin".

bigchickgal
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6 7th August 21:22
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Siobhan Perricone saw Sally selling seashells by the seashore and told
us all about it on Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:29:47 +0000 (UTC):

[snip valuable advice]

I think I've figured out what my stumbling block is. I know
intellectually that if I don't regulate my insulin levels I'll wear
out my pancreas and have the dubious honour of being the first
diabetic in my family... but it doesn't seem real to me because it's
something 'out there' in the future that may or may not happen. It's
not as immediate as the fact that I have depressive episodes and
chocolate and carbs give my endorphins a boost and make me feel better
for awhile... I keep looking at the glucose meters and thinking 'maybe
I should get one'? But they're so expensive and the doctor didn't say
anything except 'eat low-carb and low-gi and exercise' and I can't
really afford it... (and I don't really want to know if my sugar
control is bad because then I'd have to do something about it! I'm
really not good at self-discipline... lol)

Anyway, thanks for the kick in the rear! I HAVE been doing one thing
right at least - I eat three protein-rich meals a day, and the only
things I drink are unsweetened orange juice, water and herbal tea
because I hate sugary softdrinks!

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7 7th August 21:22
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Hi Eva,
Yes, it is easy to choose. I came inside from a 90+ humid day into a really
cold air conditioned store where they were. I know I have a problem, but I do
think almost anyone would be sweating on a day like that. ( Except the people
sitting on chairs in air conditioning).

I do think fat people are fair game to many
****s and adults. Where no one would call a black person the "n" word, or a
handicapped person names, calling fat people names is okay for many people.
They say being black is no one's fault but we are at fault for our condition! I
have Syndrome X, just as my mother, and my grandmother before her. They just
never knew what it was back then.That is no more my fault then my green eyes.
It's genetic.

I know how very fortunate I am to have my husband. I tell him every day too.
:-)
Lil
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8 7th August 21:22
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I'm SUPPOSED to be following a


Hi, I am a type 2 diabetic. When I was first diagnosed I was placed on a low
dose of Glucophage. It has a somewhat protective
effect on kidneys - which is great for diabetics.

I have a meter called Freestyle, and testing with that sure beats the old
finger sticks by a mile. You can test on your arm or leg.

I can't eat cake period. It causes a spike in my blood glucose that lasts for
hours. I can eat ice cream, but it has to be real, like Breyers. Any low fat
ice cream will spike me. Real ice cream has fat, and that offsets the glucose
spike. I find if something has fiber, such as oatmeal, it doesn't raise blood
sugar that quickly.
Also, if fat is in the meal, it helps slow things down too. If you have a
salad, put olive oil on it. I use a lot of olive oil in cooking too.

It was trial and error for awhile, but now I know which foods I can eat. Pizza
Hut thin crust pizza doesn't effect me much if I eat only 3 slices. Pan pizza
will spike me quickly. If I ask for light cheese it is even okay calorie wise.
I make only whole wheat pasta, eat whole grain bread, and fresh fruit instead
of canned. White bread will spike me, whole wheat doesn't.

Just take your blood sugar 2 hours after you eat. In a normal person it would
be below 140. If it isn't, the food you ate may not be something you can eat
too much of.

I had diabetes for probably 10 years before I knew. My fasting numbers were
okay, but they think I was spiking in between. I have severe neuropathy in my
feet due to that.
That is why I started out with Glucophage.
Most people can make it at least a couple of years until they need meds.

I am up to 2000 mg Glucophage after 18 years. I also take Glucotrol XL and
Starlix before dinner. These medications do the job right now, but as my
pancreas function declines, I might need insulin some time in the future. The
Glucophage was used for years in Europe before it came here. They did find that
it can protect kidney function. Starlix is a short acting medication that works
before meals.

Keep positive, you will be able to cope.
It just takes time - Lil
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9 9th August 16:25
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Kajikit <kaji@labyrinth.net.au> quoth:

I agree -- it was extremely valuable advice.


I suggest you tell your doctor about how having a glucometer would help
you take better care of yourself and ask for a prescription for one. Then
the changes are that your insurance will cover it -- and the test strips
which are an even bigger expense. I would recommend actually calling your
insurer first to ask about any limitations they impose like brand, model,
etc., then get prescriptions for ones your insurer will cover best. If
they won't cover them, hie thee to Walmart and get a Relion brand one.
That's the cheapest, I believe, and it's a decent one.


Watch out for orange juice or any other fruit juice. It's loaded with
sugar all on its own without anything added to it.

Get yourself a meter and start playing with it. I suspect you'll find it
very interesting to see how your body responds to various foods and
activities. My one-liner about diabetes is: "The disease ****s, but at
least it comes with nifty gadgets!"

Good luck!

Priscilla, type 2 diabetic, in good control by low-carbing
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10 9th August 16:25
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Orange juice is not necessarily a good idea. Unsweetened doesn't mean
much; it already has sugar in it. That alone put my dad in high glucose
range.

Annette
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