fgsu123@siliconinvestor.com (never

Semi-cold.

I was taking 20mg per day (usually divided in 2-4 dosese and welburtin
SR 150mg twice per day.

It helped, but at what cost ? It was messing up my sex-life/sex-drive,
making my insomina worse, and my restless leg syndrome was terrible.
It was getting to where I could not get to sleep without taking a
welbutrin BEFORE bed, and that,along with the SSRI disturbed sleep.

Anyway, I guess its been about 3 weeks.
I have been taking Rhodiloa Rosea 4%, 100mg twice per day for about a
month.

I have been on HIGH dosage fish oil for about 2 weeks. (I am talking
16 capsules of Members Mark (Sams club) fish oil per day in 4 divided
dosages.)

I have been taking extra folic acid...the amount varies but usually at
least 800mg in addition to diet per day. Sometimes I add a half a st
johns wort capsule once or twice a day. (Worried/wondering if this
combo is ok)

The welbutrin letdown was difficult, and I beat that with a coca extra
which provides me with a caffeine boost 3-4 times per day (I do not
drink tea or coffee)
I also take small dosages of bacopa usually at night.

Overall, my mood is down somewhat, but the lack of side effects is
wonderful.

When I first stopped, my plan was to smoke more pot. Well, that did
not work out well. When I wasnt taking the antidepressants, the pot
caused me to sleep excesively the next day and be groggy. (But then,
most things that put me to sleep have a similar affect)

So I dont smoke as much pot as when I was on the ADs. (The pot helped
with the AD side effects)

I do drink more beer than ideal, but its the only thing that relaxes
me without making me a zombie the next day. 4-6 beers usually.

I still have pretty much the same problems as with the ADs. But less
side effects & a slightly lower mood.

Yes, I have done it without a Drs supervision. Why ? I have been on &
off these things for 20 years, not the Dr. What is so god-awful about
doing it myself except the fact that I do not pay him $65 per visit to
tell me to take toxic ADs ?


Appreciate comments from those who went off & stayed off prescription
ADs.

Is combined high dose fish oil with SJW a problem ?

Any reasonable suggestions appreciated.

In short, I am not lots better. I am not lots worse. But I have
excaped the ADs side effect which were, perhaps if not as bad as the
benefits they were providing.

fgsu123@siliconinvestor.com (never

No support here I guess. Sheesh !

great

I am also on self medication. I take selegiline which requires less dosage
than
other AD. Side effects also seem to much less.

You have done the most sensible thing

It is disgusting that in the land of Freedom(sic), the mind is not free.
Everything is controlled by some company.
Your travel, your Computer Operating System, your drugs, your mind
your health, your pension plan.
Well the name should change to Land of Corporations or land of slavery.
When you go to a doctor
He will start with
SSRI-1
SSRI-2
SSRI-3
SSRI-4
SNRI-5
Bendozipne1 + SSRI-1
Bendozipne2 + SSRI-1
Bendozipne1 + SSRI-2
SNRI like effexer
some other mdecines like Wellbutrin, Mitrzapine
Tricyclis like Dothepin,
A new anti-depressant claiming less side effects than the previous version.
A atypical anti-depressant whose mechanism of action is different.
Well the truth is none of this will work for the patient.
But how much money the drugs companies get?


Even giving the benefit of doubt to serotonin hypothsis the line of
treatment should be
1. one SSRI/SNRI drug for effectiveness.
2. MAOI-B like selegiline with Dopamine drugs like Ritalin, Dopamine
agonists on a minimum dose.

I heard that Ginseng a herbal drug of India work OK. But I am sure of the
effectiveness.