bluegreenboy2003

I have or had prostatitis and am now left with
impotence　because of it.

Tried Levitra last night and it worked so well that I needed to pee
before having ***. I couldn't get it down. So went back to have ***
but it was so uncomfortable wanting to pee that I had to stop the ***.
Tried to pee again and had to throw cold water on it to do so. After
I threw water on my penis it wouldn't come back up for another half an
hour or so!!! By this time my girlfriend had fallen asleep. I don't
know if this is success or not!!!

idea man

Besides Levita, ( know nothing about it? ), you might want to give
Millgamma-N a try.

It's a special vit.B compound. There were report's out of Europe, ( I don't
have them ), that indicated it helped facilitate the repair of erectile
nerves when taken over a few months span and at a certain dose, (mg), per
day. Search PubMed for more info.

Peace.

bluegreenboy2003

Yeah I have tried it but, maybe i should try a higher dose ?

What dose is recommended ?

idea man

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Regarding Milgamma-N.


Read below:

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1: Arzneimittelforschung. 1999 Mar;49(3):220-4. Related Articles, Links


Effectiveness of different benfotiamine dosage regimens in the treatment of
painful diabetic neuropathy.

Winkler G, Pal B, Nagybeganyi E, Ory I, Porochnavec M, Kempler P.

2nd Department of Internal Medicine, Municipal St. John's Hospital,
Budapest, Hungary.

The the****utic effectiveness of a benfotiamine (CAS 22457-89-2)-vitamin B
combination (Milgamma-N), administered in high (4 x 2 capsules/day, = 320 mg
benfotiamine/day) and medium doses (3 x 1 capsules/day), was compared to a
monotherapy with benfotiamine (Benfogamma) (3 x 1 tablets/day, = 150 mg
benfotiamine/day) in diabetic patients suffering from painful peripheral
diabetic neuropathy (DNP). In a 6-week open clinical trial, 36 patients
(aged 40 to 70 yrs) having acceptable metabolic control (HbA1c < 8.0%) were
randomly assigned to three groups, each of them comprising 12 participants.
Neuropathy was assessed by five parameters: the pain sensation (evaluated by
a modified ****ogue visual scale), the vibration sensation (measured with a
tuning fork using the Riedel-Seyfert method) and the current perception
threshold (CPT) on the peroneal nerve at 3 frequencies: 5, 250 and 2000 Hz).
Parameters were registered at the beginning of the study and at the end of
the 3rd and 6th week of therapy. An overall bneneficial the****utic effect
on the neuropathy status was observed in all three groups during the study,
and a significant improvement in most of the parameters studied appeared
already at the 3rd week of therapy (p < 0.01). The greatest change occurred
in the group of patients receiving the high dose of benfotiamine (p < 0.01
and 0.05, resp., compared to the othr groups). Metabolic control did not
change over the study. It is concluded that benfotiamine is most effective
in large doses, although even in smaller daily dosages, either in
combination or in monotherapy, it is effective.

Publication Types:
Clinical Trial
Randomized Controlled Trial

PMID: 10219465 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

bluegreenboy2003

So it works for diabetics.

What about its effectiveness for prostatitis related impotence ?

idea man

Arghhh! Seriously bud, what is wrong with you Blueboy?

This is a perfect example of a poster who ignores what has been written in
this thread. This idiot prefers to be sarcastic instead of appreciative.
After I suggest to him Milgamma-N "might" help him with his problem, and I
tell him, " but, I don't have any prostatitis studies that verify Milgamma's
effectiveness", the moron asks, "So Milgamma-N work's for diabetic's. What
about about its effectiveness for prostatitis related impotence?"

Blueboy, Blueboy......what is it you want from me?? Has your prostatitis
effected your memory? I ALREADY replied to you in this thread that there
were report's out of Europe, ( I DON'T HAVE THOSE REPORT'S ), that
indicated Milgamma-N helped repair erectile nerves. I'll say it again! I
DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE STUDIES, but the anecdotal the report's are that
Milgamma-N is even more effective in healing nerves when taken over the span
of a few months and at a HIGHER DOSES, (mg), per day!

Look Blueboy, Milgamma-N is a nerve-healing medication. It is not a simple
combo of vitamins.

Milgamma-N ingredients: lipid-soluble vitamin B1 (benfothiamine), vitamin B6
and vitamin B12.

It is a lipid-soluble formulation (as compared to OTC formulations which are
water-soluble). Since lipids dissolve well in lipids, this formulation has
been shown to penetrate nerves better than the water-based one, (since
nerves are rich in lipids).

Hey, Geek-Boy! Listen up! Milgamma-N has been shown to be effective for
neuropathic pain control. As you may, or may not know, there are nerves in
the genitoury area, and these nerves include the erectile nerves. I don't
know if Milgamma-N will help you, but I was responding to a specific post in
this newsgroup relating to nerve repair. I think there will be an evaluation
in a double-blind placebo-controlled study soon, but I can't verify this.
All I know about Milgamma-N is that you need to take it for a longer time
and probably at higher doses for it to be effective for erectile
dysfunction.

Now, I gave you a "LEAD", "HINT", "CLUE, "TIP", ( or whatever you want to
call it? ), about Milgamma-N Blueboy, and that's all I can do. I really
don't know why your being so thankless and demanding of me with such a
stupid question? I didn't have the study showing it was effective for
prostatitis, so I thought it might help you to see a study, ( like the one
below ), showing it was even more effective in neuropathic pain sufferer's
by using large doses, ( Milgamma-N => more effective using higher doses =>
exactly what I have been telling
you )..........BUT..........unfortunately...........th e study was only
specific towards painful diabetic neuropathy and not prostatitis.

In ending, I really have to change to the format of this discussion Blueboy
and ask you something for a change. We already know that I told you day's
ago that anecdotal report's out of Europe revealed Milgamma-N was more
effective at treating erectile dysfunction and nerve related pain when using
higher doses. We also know that I told you that even though there were these
report's, I "DID NOT" have any specific studies involving prostatitis.

So, after ALL that I wrote in this thread regarding Milgamma-N, including my
humble effort to help you with a tip when using the medicine, WHY are you
asking me "So Milgamma-N work's for diabetic's. What about about its
effectiveness for prostatitis related impotence?"

I bet your brain feels as good as new Blueboy, seeing that you've never used
it?? Seriously, if I ever need a brain transplant, I'd choose yours because
I'd want a brain that had never been used. OY!

Regards,

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1: Arzneimittelforschung. 1999 Mar;49(3):220-4. Related Articles, Links


Effectiveness of different benfotiamine dosage regimens in the treatment of
painful diabetic neuropathy.

Winkler G, Pal B, Nagybeganyi E, Ory I, Porochnavec M, Kempler P.

2nd Department of Internal Medicine, Municipal St. John's Hospital,
Budapest, Hungary.

The the****utic effectiveness of a benfotiamine (CAS 22457-89-2)-vitamin B
combination (Milgamma-N), administered in high (4 x 2 capsules/day, = 320 mg
benfotiamine/day) and medium doses (3 x 1 capsules/day), was compared to a
monotherapy with benfotiamine (Benfogamma) (3 x 1 tablets/day, = 150 mg
benfotiamine/day) in diabetic patients suffering from painful peripheral
diabetic neuropathy (DNP). In a 6-week open clinical trial, 36 patients
(aged 40 to 70 yrs) having acceptable metabolic control (HbA1c < 8.0%) were
randomly assigned to three groups, each of them comprising 12 participants.
Neuropathy was assessed by five parameters: the pain sensation (evaluated by
a modified ****ogue visual scale), the vibration sensation (measured with a
tuning fork using the Riedel-Seyfert method) and the current perception
threshold (CPT) on the peroneal nerve at 3 frequencies: 5, 250 and 2000 Hz).
Parameters were registered at the beginning of the study and at the end of
the 3rd and 6th week of therapy. An overall bneneficial the****utic effect
on the neuropathy status was observed in all three groups during the study,
and a significant improvement in most of the parameters studied appeared
already at the 3rd week of therapy (p < 0.01). The greatest change occurred
in the group of patients receiving the high dose of benfotiamine (p < 0.01
and 0.05, resp., compared to the othr groups). Metabolic control did not
change over the study. It is concluded that benfotiamine is most effective
in large doses, although even in smaller daily dosages, either in
combination or in monotherapy, it is effective.

Publication Types:
Clinical Trial
Randomized Controlled Trial

PMID: 10219465 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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appreciative....

_______

Well, I guess you blew him off, Idea Man. Another rude and callous shot on
your part. And please don't waste your time attacking me because I take
issue with your recent behavior on our forum. Chill out. You are much too
intelligent to allow yourself to fly off the handle.

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blueboy;

Levitra has a small reputation in its short history of being available in
Europe, Australia, and the US for offering diabetics a better response than
some other vasodilators, like Viagra. There isn't enough data to know if
men post-RP get a better response from it. One thing does seem to be
becoming clear and that is that Levitra has stronger negative side effect
profile than Viagra or Cialis, especially in the area of stomach discomfort.
But for some men it does work in the erection department, and well for some
users.

I believe strongly that men coming off whatever PCa therapy need to start
working on building erectile function again as soon after healing as
possible. Waiting gets the survivor nowhere. Vacuum pumping is a pleasant
and passive activity which brings newly-oxygenated blood to penile tissues
which haven't been getting much lately and also helps cleanse veins and
arteries of built-up gunk which normal nocturnal erections (now rare) would
clear out. Many savvy urologists are suggesting small daily doses of
Viagra, Levitra, or Cialis every other day - because Cialis has a longer
half-life - for PCa survivors. You may not get a steel ***-boner from this
therapy, but very likely there will be some engorgement, increased blood
flow to the area. Every little bit helps. Newly oxygenated blood
encourages nerve regrowth; regrowth may be slow in coming but it does
improve for many.

I hope this helps.

Jim

bluegreenboy2003

Thanks for the response. Couldn't give a damn what ideaman thinks! I
am a lazy arse who didn't read his thread properly. One question -
what's a 'half life' on viagra, levitra etc ?

And I did get a rock hard one from levitra two　times ago but
not the last time that time was just suitable enough for penetration.
These pills are ok but I just don't want to be dependent on them.

y

If someone offered me an erection in 30 minutes or and erection in 3
months (in Germany, no less) I think I would opt for the one in 30
minutes.

donaldo11

Heard my first commercial an the radio today. They have set up a web
site-levitra.com. I'm on my way for a visit!

Don (still waiting for the Chinese Connection to show up-ordered on Aug
7th)