terence2@aol.com

Subject: Marijuna cured my severe Insomnia
From: robertmason63@aol.com (RobertMason63)
Date: 7/22/03 4:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <20030722042946.15423.00000221@mb-m13.aol.com>

I live in Canada were a possession of a few joints for personal use will not
result in a criminal record but a fine (New Law ).
My regular doctor works for a clinic run by an hospital.I always have suffered
from insonmia but nothing like the last
few months .My normal cycle lately is to stay awake all night for 3 nights and
then collapse from exaustion on the
fourth night .My regular doctor does not believe In prescribing
Benzodiazepines like ativan,halcion ,or valium ,etc.
I have bugged my doctor about insomnia for a long time.He suggested drugs
like seroquel for Insomnia.Seroquel (100 mg ) . Seroquel , in larger dosages,
is used to treat schyzophrenics , who see demons in their rooms ,hear
voices ,think they are God ,etc .I suffer none of the delusions
as previously listed . Seroquel works well for insomnia ,but turns you
into vegetable. You lose the ability to cocentrate as far reading technical
books ,following the plot of a " Agatha Christie " like movies .I was reduced
to watching the cartoon channel.
I can't stand seroquel,and have stopped taking it.
A friend who smokes the odd couple of joints on the weekends GAVE me me 2
joints.
I smoked both of them already . In each case I felt my legs go rubbery,and I
went to bed and slept like a baby for about 6 hours.
Last night I woke up and felt very hungry , I ordered a pizza from a late night
pizza store.
Years ago ,Hacion (2 pills ,0.25mg each )worked very well,but now , no doctor
will prescribe it anymore, I tried several docs .
Question : Why the bias against halcion ?I still believe that somebody that
drinks or smokes Marijuana and drives a car after
should be charged fully by the police.What's is your advice ?
Peace to all , terence

robert green

It seems that there are certain states in the US that share that viewpoint.

That doesn't make him too unique. Many docs have that bias. I find a
doctor's reluctance to prescribe a certain widely-used class of drugs is
usually related to experience. I had a doc that refused to write Ritalin
for anyone after having seen the corpse of a fellow med student who had died
from injecting the stuff. Others, I'm sure have had similar experiences.

But your doctor may have seen people "decay" from its use (or valium - you
don't know how disturbed doctors become at patients they label as
drug-seeking - it's a label patients need to work hard to avoid acquiring).

[Snip part about failing on Seroquel]

It's a very big world out there. Try something else. Lots of people seem
to like Ambien and none that I know that are on it have grown three heads yet.
..> A friend who smokes the odd couple of joints on the weekends GAVE me me 2


The problem with that is there are some risks. Was the product sprayed with
Paraquat? What's the quality control? What are the long term health risks?
Weed has never been known to promote the eating of a well-balanced diet.
But it's certainly been around for a long time, so it's passed the
three-headed test, at least for me.

Bad stories abounded about Halcion. Halcion (used it for 5 years) had begun
to get a bit of a bad rap by 1991:

http://www.injustice.org/nemo/newsfile/nk910819.html

"The story might end there if a San Francisco novelist named Cindy Ehrlich
had not received a prescription for Halcion in 1987. During the six months
Ehrlich took the drug, she became depressed and anxious and ended up
"convinced that the world was on the brink of nuclear war or invasion from
space." In the fall of 1988, in a two- part article for California magazine,
she told her story and went on to question the FDA's original approval of
the drug."

So, you see, the miracle drug then fell out of favor with the Gods and
Ambien and other things replaced it. I think it was also implicated in
memory loss (but I can't remember <g>) and that there were serious
methodology problems with the drug protocols. As I recall, they involved a
doctor testing the drug on a phantom population made out of dead people
whose names he culled from tombstones while on graveyard walks. Out of the
two, maybe Halcion is the more dangerous substance.

that

I experienced hallucinations, memory loss and extreme irritability when I
used it. Those types of reports will eventually make doctors uneasy about
prescribing any drug. My advice is that there are plenty of doctors - shop
around. Someone will still write it or give you Ambien.

Bobby G.

terence2@aol.com

Today after several hours of driving around, I found a dctor that will treat my
insomnia .I'll going soon to a hospital where there is sleep clinic.
I have to stay there one night with electrodes attached to my head .
My new doctor wasn't very impressed with these sleep clinics, but it is paid by
the Canadian goverment ,therefore I'll go any way .
what the heck ,it's free if a dodtor refers to one.
Otherwise it costsc $600.00 Can or about $ 450.00 U.S.


Hey , it beats hanging around bad areas of the city tryig to score some grass.
I had a goo day , terence

tricks

Paraquat? On Weed I have not heard that scare for years and years! now I have been sober a long time but I still know that most weed in the states is grown indoors. The days of Paraquat date back to when the late 70's when the government spayed fields in Mexico I think memory is a bit foggy on the facts maybe to much weed in the 70's and 80's LOL. Even though I don't do drugs or drink anymore I think at the very least medical Marijuana should be legalized, in fact if they just legalized weed,problems like funding for substance abuse treatment centers would no longer be an issue the taxes from sales could cover the cost of treatment. I know there is a lot of controversy over this issue but for me it comes down to this, tobacco and alcohol will and has killed more people than Marijuana ever will. Now that I went way off topic of the thread this may be something that helps with the sleeping problem. I have fought for years to get something to help me sleep but I have to use care in what I use because I have sleep apnea, something that has helped me is phenagan also known as Promethazine (generic) they come in 25 mg pills. Now I have a high tolerance and at times have to take 50 mg. This drug is used for upset stomachs and as a sleep aid. Hope this helps good luck
Lata.............Tricks