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1 28th January 16:16
the puppy wizard
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HOWEDY kwbrown,


janet boss is a dog abusing mental case.
Her own dog Franklin nearly GOT DEAD
over intestinal surgery for swallowing every
thing in sight cause he's hyperactive cause
janet abuses him. He nearly killed hisself
escaping his recovery crate and her declawed
kat attacks her when she punishes her dogs
and is takin VALIUM from the neurologis for
his "SEIZURE LIKE BEHAVIOR."


She means he was intimidated and cowed.


Franklin is HYPERACTIVE cause he's
been locked in a box most of his life
and jerked and choked and shocked
and sprayed in the face with aversives.


That's a IDIOTIC question.

Well perhaps janet will heelp them on their
way to destiny like she did her elderly dog
she COOKED leavin IT HOWET in 104 degree
heat cause IT wouldn't go into ITS crate indoors
in the AC or her other DEAD DOG that got run
DHOWEN in front of her HOWES cause she
can't train a dog not to ESCAPE cause SHE HURTS THEM.


BWEEEEHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!

YOU MURDERED YOUR OWN DEAD DOG ****a
cause you WOULDN'T STOP HURTIN HER.


YOU SING IT, sista.


Your dogs are lean cause they're hyperactive.
Your dogs are hyperactive cause you abuse them.


That so? At nearly three years old?
She should have been FULLY TRAINED
by six or seven months given the time
and effort you've put in.


That so? Oh. You mean when SHE KNOWS
YOU CAN'T HURT HER. That's the same problem
your pal lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn has
with her SELECTIVELY BRED HAND PICKED
and TESTED SAR dog JIVE cause he knows
SHE CAN'T HURT HIM unless she knows where the FIND is...


You mean where you couldn't HURT HER.


Duh? Your dog AIN'T TRAINED. She'll DO
ANYTHING to get HOWETA GETTIN BURNED
but other than with that big red button BUZZIN
you can't make your dog do NUTHIN cause
all you got is FEAR working for you and
she knows you can't HURT her at a trail.

END OF SHOW CAREER, kwbrown,
JUST LIKE your pal lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn's SELECTIVELY BRED HAND PICKED
and TESTED SAR dog JIVE. BWEEEHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!


That so? You gonna turn dismal failure
into SUCCESS again? That's Budhist
philosphy, ain't it kwbrown?


She ran to him for protection from you HURTIN her
just like HOWE the agility dog abuser's dogs and
culprit's dogs do it.


You mean that was PREDICTABLE cause
your dog won't work for you unless she's
wearin your shock collar, kwbrown.

PERHAPS THAT'S HOWE COME you
MURDERED your own DEAD DOG ****a
FOR TURNING ON YOU?


"REINFORCEMENT NEVER ENDS."

BANK ON IT.

But only if you HURT dogs to train them.

You mean when she got tired and knew
you were where you couldn't beat her
with a stick or pinch and twist her ears.


No, cause when you "train" you're HURTIN HER.
She's "collar WIZE" NHOWE and won't work
withHOWET HURTIN HER. Just like your pal
lying " I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn's RETIRED
SAR dog JIVE.

HOWE does WON "RETIRE" withHOWET
ever workina real SAR dog job?

RETIRED??? HE NEVER WORKED.

Shouldn't she say he FLUNKED SAR WORK?


You must mean dog lovers. They get like
that when dog abusers abuse dogs.


You're LUCKY he was GENTLEMAN ENOUGH
to tell you the TRUTH. You're a dog abusing MENTAL CASE, kwbrown.

FIGGER IT HOWET.

Dog lovers don't want dog abusers
arHOWEND them and their dogs.
Like your pal sindy SADIST MOOREON
got BANNED from two obedience clubs
cause she's a Sadist.

LIKE YOURSELF, kwbrown.

You DO remember HURTING ****a
till she couldn't take it noMOORE. Don't you.


Yeah. The psychiatric community learned
years ago that wearing white overstimulates
some of the goddamned mental cases and
simpleton's they gotta contain. Here's HOWE
it was in the "good ol days":

From: Gary & lois Edwards (garyl@bmi.net)
Subject: Re: Where is Darlene?
Date: 1999/09/02

BEEN ON TRICYCLICS FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS

"I don't take lithium, but I've been on trycyclics for about
22 years. Been there, done that, have the t-shirt to prove
it. What's really terrific, is now days you can say proudly,

"I take anti-depressives". Back when I started taking
them it was seen as something shameful. If you cut
your leg off, and were lying there with a bleeding stump,
you'd never let the word depressed, pass your lips, or
the doc's would say, "You're depressed, on
medication? Well, can't have any pain meds.....you
could become addicted."

The good old days. I actually had a Great Aunt who's
father locked her in her room back in the twenties
because she was simple. A shame that medication
probably would have helped her live a normal life.

No Denna, I was just saying with Darlene's personality,
she has a way of making grandiose plans when at the
top of her manic cycle....as does my daughter.

I wasn't saying that anyone with problems could be
counted on to be irresponsible."

Lois E.
-------------------------------------

And HERE'S HOWE it still is:

HOWEDY People,

What's the difference between crating
and neutering the dogs you're afraid of
Vs locking your simpletons in a closet
and denying they exist?

WORDS OF WISDOM
from our own Lynn Kosmakos
1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day
For Twenty Years

I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM

"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-
depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and
50 mg of Zoloft every day.

I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to learn
more, while happily sharing pertinent information I
have learned.

But if I were ever to post such sh*t, I would hope
that every other reader of this group would be
rightfully outraged."

"Community is an evolutionary thing that we earn
the right to participate in by observing the easily
understood rules and contributing to in constructive
ways."

Lynn K.

-----------------------------------------

LYNN K. and LOIS E, and a BiLateral, BiPolar
conversation on Mental problems. LYNN AND
LOIS Almost 50 years on mental illness medications combined -----------------------------------------


"It wasn't that meds didn't work for her - she wouldn't
take them. I particularly remember a comment she
made about scarey side effects of Lithium.

Hardly.

After 17 years on it, I think I'm qualified to say that
the very low risk of any side effect is far less frightening
than the very real dangers of life without it."

Lynn K.
-----------------------------------------

LYNN K. and the UNQUIET MIND
----------------------------------------

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosmakos@home.com) Subject: Re: Where is
Darlene?
Date: 1999/09/03 BoxHill wrote:

Yeah. It's interesting, but kind of watered down for the
mass market, if you know what I mean. There's really
quite a lot of good work out there and decent research.

Thank God.

Lynn K.
---------------------------------------

MOTHER AND CHILD REUNION "KUCKOO!!
CUCKOO!!!" MOTHER (LOIS E.) 22 YEARS on
TRICYCLICS, DAUGHTER BIPOLAR...

YOU DO THE MATH

"What's really terrific, is now days you can
say proudly, 'I take anti-depressives'"

-------------------------------------
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2 28th January 16:16
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HOWEDY janet,


IOW the dog ain't trained.


BWEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

This dog will NEVER work cause he's RUINED
from SHOCKING HIM like your pal lying "I LOVE
KOEHLER" lynn's SELECTIVELY BRED HAND
PICKED and RUINED into "RETIREMENT" before
ever WORKIN a SAR site cause he KNOWS she
don't know WHERE the FIND IS so she CAN'T HURT HIM.

They were dog lovers who was DISGUSTED
with your pal kwbrown's abuse of her dog.

You mean when the dog knows YOU CAN't HURT HIM.


Yeah. Like at a trial or SAR site.

You'll NOTICE JIVE gets HIGH SCORES
in the RING where he's practiced EVERY
DAY on a pronged spiked pinch choke
and shock collar and trainin stick.


Franklin is lean cause he's HYPERACTIVE
cause you abuse him.

You surgically mutilate dogs cause
you can't train your dogs not to escape
or you wouldn't have had your other dog
GET PANCAKED in front of your HOWES.

We couldn't live withHOWET flyball, janet.


Perhaps flyball woulda saved that DEAD
DOG YOU MURDERED in "interested in hearing."


"It is by muteness that a dog becomes so
utterly beyond value."

Like a confessor Priest? Don't bet your dog
won't tell on you...

"With him, words play no torturing tricks.........., "
John Galsworthy, adapted with permission from
his FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.

Their behaviors reflect our words, thoughts,
actions, and training quirks. Jerry HOWE,
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ } >
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3 28th January 16:17
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BWEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

The Amazing Puppy Wizard sez you jerk
and choke your "PRECOCIHOWES" CBR'S
cause you don't have the INTELLECT to
HOWEtwit the cunning of the domestic
puppy dog.

OR YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO HURT THEM.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >


dog, or a dog that's


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4 28th January 20:25
the puppy wizard
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HOWEDY lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn,


news:<Xns9502CE2D04659arfenarfhotmailcom@130.133.1 .4>...

"WAS" ???

kwbrown MURDERED her DEAD DOG ****a.

Looks like kwbrown is havin a temper tantrum.


Yeah, you mean not be truthful.


You mean, the herding instructor you took
your RETIRED SAR dog JIVE to train under?

The WON that taught your dog JIVE to know the
sheep field trial is the same as an SAR site, where
you can't HURT the dog?


You mean she's a vulgar thug, like yourself.

You mean she doesn't lie to them like you do.

This is a family news group, lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.


Self explanatory, AIN'T IT, lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.


Sometimes the TRUTH HURTS.

Well then, let's talk abHOWET JIVE'S sheep
hurtin career, eh lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn?


CUTTING COMENTS? She means the truth...


The hallmark of a dog abusing coward.


This is a family news group.


Hmmm. CuriHOWES, ain't it.


Not here on a family news group.

You mean, her BAD BEHAVIOR of NOT HURTING DOGS?


WORDS OF WISDOM
from our own Lynn Kosmakos
1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day
For Twenty Years

I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM

"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-
depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and
50 mg of Zoloft every day.

I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to learn
more, while happily sharing pertinent information I
have learned.

But if I were ever to post such sh*t, I would hope
that every other reader of this group would be
rightfully outraged."

"Community is an evolutionary thing that we earn
the right to participate in by observing the easily
understood rules and contributing to in constructive
ways."

Lynn K.

-----------------------------------------


Here, try this: HOWEDY OzDingo,
"OzDingo" <> wrote in message news:e1b8ec5f.0406070401.69f4a84b@posting.google.c om...

Well, you're missin quite the treat. It's highly
recommeded by HOWER own research
professor of ****-ytic behaviorISM at UofWI,
marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM 'NO!'
into ITS face for five seconds and lock IT in a
box for ten minutes reflection" dermer:
From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
In article <38CC0C43.94E2DDD1@earthlink.net> rhurwitz@earthlink.net writes:

Please try Powell's Books in Portland
Oregon. Their URL is:

http://www.powells.com/

Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
new and used books on its shelves. You
can order books via e-email.

Koehler Method Of Dog
Training
by Koehler, W R
Published by HOWELL BOOK
HOUSE (0876056575,

================================================== ======

Here's some quotes and some methods right
outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF
SHAKE and scream "NO!" into its face for 5
seconds":

"The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."

Hanging

"First, the trainer makes certain that the collar
and leash are more than adequate for any jerk
or strain that the dog's most frantic actions could
cause. Then he starts to work the dog deliberately
and fairly to the point where the dog makes his grab.

Before the teeth have reached their target,
the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from
the ground.

As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned
problems the dog is suspended in mid-air.

However, to let the biting dog recover
his footing while he still had the strength
to renew the attack would be cruelty.

The only justifiable course is to hold him
suspended until he has neither the strength
nor inclination to renew the fight.

When finally it is obvious that he is
physically incapable of expressing his
resentment and is lowered to the ground,
he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
over on his side.

The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
let it alarm you

THE REAL "HOOD"

"If your dog is a real "hood" who would
regard the foregoing types of protest as
"kid stuff" and would express his
resentment of your efforts by biting,
your problem is difficult -- and pressing.

"Professional trainers often get these
extreme problems. Nearly always the
"protest biter" is the handiwork of a
person who, by avoiding situations that
the dog might resent, has nurtured the
seeds of rebellion and then cultivated
the resultant growth with under correction.

When these people reap their inevitable
and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
trainer" whose advice they may have
once rejected because it was incompatible
with the sugary droolings of mealy-
mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
and dog psychologists who, by the
broken skins and broken hearts their
misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
since the dawn of time.

"With more genuine compassion for the
biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
by those who are "too kind" to make a
correction and certainly with more disregard
for his safety, the professional trainer
morally feels obligated to perform a "major
operation."

"Since we are presently concerned with
the dog that bites in resentment of the
demands of training, we will set our
example in that situation. (In a later
chapter we will deal with the with the
much easier problem of the dog that
bites someone other than his master."

Are we havin FUN yet?

Of curse, that was just a sample. Perhaps
NHOWE you know HOWE The Amazing
Puppy Wizard learned to discuss business
here on The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Forum.
HE uses a stylistic compendium hybrid method
based on the works of koehler and Socratease.

You'll never need to read another dog
training book again, unless you just want
to have someMOORE FUN.

BTW, MOORE refers to HOWER faq's page
author sindy SADIST MOORE, who's been
banned from two obedience clubs for abusing her dogs.

Most of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual Students get a 100%
consistently reliable come command
in less that WON HOWER of EZ GENTLE
NON PHYSICAL conditioning, and they
do it for FREE:

----- Original Message -----
From: Lindalee
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression -
Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog!

Saw a dog today and "good boy-" worked along
with calling him-came the first time every time.

Not even a sound out of him.

Think it is hard for him but he never even
seemed to think about going off-reacting.

The word come has no affect on him just
the phrase--Sunshine come goodboy.


Hi, Jerry.
I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree with
(or even understand) 100% of what you say in this manual ...
BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few reps and you
could have knocked me down when I tried the exercise
with "drop" and, after a few reps in different spots Darwin
practically *threw* the rubber ball at my feet on command.

He's still not perfect (just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn
enough to want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have) how
your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few folks, but that
woman who advocates ear pulling and beating with sticks
deserves everything she gets.

Even if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that. (Darwin
fetches enthusiastically and instinctively, tho').

Best, ben

===================

----- Original Message -----
From: <n> To: "Jerry Howe"
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Damned Family Leadership Exercise -
Re: Am I expecting to much

Well then, he shoulda figgured some way
someHOWE to train him anyHOWE.


Well, la, di, dah?


Takes most of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Students abHOWET fif**** minutes
of EZ GENTLE NON PHYSICAL conditioning
to do THAT, too: "Greg M. Silverman"
<gmsNOSPAM@no.umn.edu <mailto:gmsNOSPAM@no.umn.edu>>
wrote in message

Hey, Mr. Wizard, or Alchemist or whatever
your alias of the day is,

I have to say that our dog heels much better than she did.
This is after reading and implementing the bit in your "Wits End"
treatise. And she's a royal nutter (but then again, aren't they
all?).

Cheers! Greg -- --------------------
"Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis***@chello.nl>
wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@amstwist00...

RTFM is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for
"Read The F***ing Manual" ;-) I used the manual
and it works very good!

But it is a long text to read (76 pages printed on
A4-size paper) My lab is 1year old now, and teaching
him something new takes about 30minutes
(depending on what to teach offcourse)

My other dog (a 7year old staffordshire terrier-mix) is a bit
slower in learning, but he is used to me calling him a "bad
dog"whenever he did something i didn't want him to do, or
it might be the age.

Sometimes it looks like Sam (the lab) WANTS to learn
something new: he wants me to bring along the can
filled with washers whenever we go for a walk. It is a
very "humane" way of teaching: the dog is allways a
"good dog", and never a "bad dog"

There is nu punishment or prong-collars involved.

For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without
beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog,
he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask
permission" first, and to my surprise it worked!

My dogs never went to puppy-training
(lucky for them), maybe this helped too.

Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html

-- Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/ =========================

"Check chain" is a euphamism for slip choke collar.


Did it? Or did it only SEEM to work well?

Ooops! That's cause he wasn't TRAINED,
he was forced intimidated and managed,
but not trained, or he wouldn't have done that.


Wasn't your fault. You only done the best
you was taught by the E***PERTS.


That's too bad. WON fine day we'll be
suing dog trainers for such incidents.The
Amazing Puppy Wizard has determined
that's the only effective way to teach HOWER
professional dog abusers HOWE to train dogs
withHOWET HURTIN THEM.

Pretty good idea, hunh?

And we're not stopping there, cause they're
the low men on the totem pole, only doin
what they been taught by veterinary behaviorists.

We'll be goin after the university professors
who teach us to jerk and choke and shock
and intimidate dogs and try to get HOWET
callin that, training.

And then we'll look forward to refunding tuitions
to students who've been DEFRAUDED HOWETA
their tuition by unscrupulHOWES proffessors
sellin FRAUDULENT Master's Degree programs.

Perhaps some of them are reading HOWER forum right NHOWE?


INDEEDY. Same same for those poor citizens
university tuitions. For some, it's their inheritance
they've WASTED learnin P-R&OC / CT malarkey.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard is DONE with SPELLIN.

Well, pretty much, anyHOWE.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard doesn't NEED
to follow up on HIS FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual Students cause
when they learn HOWE to train their dog they
learn HOWE to train EVERY dog and the same
same same same applies to their kids and
spHOWESES.

And NO, you don't get the Wive's Guide To
Wits' End Dog Training For Husbands. Not
as long as there's a Mrs. Puppy Wizard alive.

OR IF THERE'LL EVER BE WON...

All critters respond equally well cause
the method is PERFECT or it would
CONSISTENTLY FAIL on occasion.

We don't see that. We don't see folks like
yourself writing in saying they can't train
their dogs NEARLY INSTANTLY that don't
get straightened HOWET NEARLY INSTANTLY
and write back sayin "THANKS JERRY."


Mostly you need to FORGET your pryor training.


We can't use food rewards cause they distract
the thought process and teach greed and lowers
HOWER dog's esteem for HOWER authority.


That increases anxiHOWESNESS and makes
the dog fearful and mistrustful of us AND reinforces
undesirable behaviors cause we've responded emotionally to them.


They compell opposition and increase
anxiHOWESNESS and teach fear intimidation
and mistrust and can cause aggression.


NO PROBLEM. You'll break them NEARLY
INSTANTLY soon as you see HOWE they
CONfHOWEND your dog. Be SHORE to
watch HOWE you handle and control your
lead, relax your arm and elbow.

She has NO CHOICE. In any situation.

"A Dog Is A Dog As A Child Is A Child. They Respond
In Predictable Innate, Normal, Natural, Instinctive,
Reflexive, Ways, To Cir***stances And Situations
Of Their Environments Which We Create For Them.

ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING. Damn The Descartean War of
"Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words
And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual CANNOT FAIL
cause it's scientifically designed using non physical
non oppositional techniques... just like Christ taught, only better.


The Amazing Puppy Wizard's methods are timeless:

"Only the unenlightened speak of wisdom and right action
as separate, not the wise. If any man knows one, he
enjoys the fruit of both. The level which is reached by
wisdom is attained through right action as well. He who
perceives that the two are one knows the truth."

"Even the wise man acts in character with his nature,
indeed all creatures act according to their natures.
What is the use of compulsion then? The love and
hate which are aroused by the objects of sense arise
from Nature, do not yield to them. They only obstruct
the path." Bhagavad Gita, adapted by Krishna with
permission from His FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.

Force training JERRYIZES dogs and GETS THEM DEAD.


If you broke the car aggression you'll have
removed the cause of her anxiHOWESNESS.


Maybe take a couple quick trips just to
refresh her memory between nHOWE an then?


NHOWE you can use them for pleasure!


Of curse. All behaviors are the same same.

HOWER dog lovers don't like to believe
they can CURE ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS
NEARLY INSTANTLY and FOR FREE.

Especially when they've invested their lives
careers and reputations defending their alleged
right to hurt and murder dogs and get paid for it
and get HOWET blamin the breed and callin THAT, trainin.


You only made a minor mistake but it
could cause big trHOWEBLE in the
future if your pup gets the idea that
under any stress she's supposed to
put sumpthin in her MHOWETH.

WON fine day it could be a stranger's
hand and with no harm or malice, could
cost you her life.

You done E***CELLENT.


Could be. If a method doesn't CONSISTENTLY
work NEARLY INSTANTLY on all critters then
you're either doin it wrong or the method fails.

In the problem animal behavior business,
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.

Particularly, if you're a professional trainer
cause The Amazing Puppy Wizard came
here to IDENTIFY E***POSE and DISCREDIT
the lying dog abusing punk thug cowards who
hurt dogs and lie abHOWET IT like the professors
at UofWI and HOWER professional dog trainers.

"It is by muteness that a dog becomes so
utterly beyond value."

Like a confessor Priest? Don't bet your dog
won't tell on you...

"With him, words play no torturing tricks.........., "
John Galsworthy, adapted with permission from
his FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.

Their behaviors reflect our words, thoughts,
actions, and training quirks. Jerry HOWE,
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ } >

Here's a university professor who wasted his
entire career abusing animals and teaching
children HOWE to hurt and intimidate animals.

You might wanna talk to him if you wanna learn
HOWE to INFLICT PAIN FEAR and FORCE to
INTIMIDATE dumb animals:

From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST


And how do we know this aspect of his advice is right?

Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.

His advice could be subject to an empirical ****ysis.

--Marshall =================
"Marshall Dermer" <dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@uwm.edu...

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpanders@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST

Hello Marshall,

The way I view it from my observation of how
my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts
the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just
interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for
a second and then will either continue the
behaviour or do something else.

The praise reassures the dog that the sound
distraction is not a threat or punishment,
however if everytime the dog resumes a
particular behaviour it's distracted immediately
(and praised immediately for reassurance) then
it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling
and it ceases.

A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place
and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be
otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable
alternate behaviour is offered.

One example, Sam used to jump up on me
when I arrived home, I would shake can to
distract him right at the moment he was
about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions
he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of
course this was fine so I let it be.

While the concept of shake cans is not new,
I haven't read any other advice that says to
praise immediately regardless of what the
dog does next (the common advice is to
praise once the dog is doing a desired
behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted
behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn)
and from my own experiences is an important
part of the process.


"Estel J. Hines" <ejhines@comcast.net> wrote in message news:w86dna9lBfNZgbTdRVn-hA@comcast.com...

Nuthin E***CEPT HOWE IT'S DONE.


Like a SCRUFF SHAKE, professor?


You mean like SCREAMING "NO!" into ITS face for 5 seconds?


NO, professor SCRUFF SHAKE.

THAT AIN'T HOWE IT WORKS.

NO, professor. You don't UNDERSTAND the METHOD.

****-yize THIS, professor SCRUFF SHAKE:

Here's professor of ****-ytic behaviorISM research
at UofWI marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
"NO!" into ITS face for five seconds and lock IT in a
box for ten minutes contemplation" dermer:

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

******IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?*******

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works."

That's HOWE COME your dog has OCD behaviors
and is deathly ill from The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.

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cause you're a liar and a dog abuser and
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