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1 14th April 09:57
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Well, this seems contradicted by these articles, which seem to indicate
legal sale in Japan:

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art12624.asp
http://www.danspencer.com/text/stevia.html
http://www.jbb-stevia.com/english/E_Safety_Tests.html
http://www.glocom.org/media_reviews/n_review/20020320_news_review15/

And, there's a link here to explain concerns regarding aspartame
(Nutrasweet), cancers, blindness, seizures and Gulf War Syndrome:

http://www.rense.com/general37/ste.htm


Could someone enlighten me in order to resolve these contradictions?

Thank you kindly, Elaine.....
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2 14th April 09:57
nico kadel-garcia
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That last one is Betty Martini. She lies, exchept when she forgets to
lie and makes stuff up instead. She claims the FAA forbids the use of
diet soda by citing a particular FAA periodical, when the reference is a
letter to the editor that she wrote!

Unfortunately, Betty lies a *lot*, and she's convinced some people of
the general truth of her claims through raw repetition. Yes, some people
can't tolerate aspartame (due to phenylketonuria, a serious medical
problem). A few claim headaches from it, but far fewer than one would
guess from all the "friend-of-a-friend" studies and people who instead
have serious caffeine problems. And if you cook with it or leave it to
get hot, it breaks down (yes, into formaldehyde) and tastes *AWFUL*, but
that taste is so vile as to be really, really obviously tainted. But so
does a lot of other food heated to that level (such as celery: yecch!).

So it's not perfect, but it's not the deadly toxin Betty claims. Check
out http://www.snopes.com on the subject for decent discussion of what's really
going on with aspartame.
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3 14th April 09:57
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Someone was confused, stevia is widely used in Japan, but was rejected by
the European Commission. http://www.foodstandards.gov.uk/bulletin/no120/stevia.htm

That link is an article by Betty Martini, the internet's original
anti-aspartame loony.

I expect these claims about British Parliament hold about as much truth
as her most well-known do***ent, detailing the imaginary World Health
Organization symposium on the dangers of aspartame (copied on almost every
anti-aspartame site on the net, often misattributed to "Nancy Markle).
That one has been circling the net for about 15 years.

None of the conditions she lists have ever been shown to be caused by
aspartame, nor has there been any marked increase in those conditions
in diabetics since it went into widespread use. She will tell you that
aspartame by products build up in the body over time as a toxin, and then
turn around and post about all the miraculous cures that clear up within
a couple of days of not using it. Either it builds up or it doesn't,
make up your mind Betty.

If you remind her of the fact that an orange has more "toxic" methanol
than a can of diet soda, she'll claim that the ethanol in the orange
is the medical antidote to methanol, so it makes it safe. So have
your Diet Coke with rum.

Now, some people, myself included, are sensitive to it, and get
headaches or get foggy-headed, and should avoid it. But Betty's
scaremongering doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

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4 14th April 09:57
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<snip>

I can't speak for anything about Japan since I don't know one way or the other.

<Urban legend snipped>


I can explain this one. It's a campaign run by Mad Betty, aka Betty Martini
and Nancy Markle. What her problem is, I do not know, but none of it is
true. Read about it here:

http://snopes.com/

Or here: http://urbanlegends.com/
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5 14th April 09:58
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Funny, everything that I have read says that Stevia has been used for
hundreds (or thousands?) of years in So America with no ill effects,
and is widely accepted in Japan, and is FAR safer than Aspartame,
saccharine, OR sucralose (splenda).

Can someone figure out which is the real truth?

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6 14th April 09:58
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Is there research and do***entation you can cite to support the
relative safety of the different sweetners?

BJ
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7 14th April 09:58
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You'll hear lots of things. Doesn't mean they're true! Do a search on
Stevia and you'll get a lot of conflicting information. I can't prove a
thing one way or the other. I do know people who have tried Stevia and they
said it tasted awful. I don't want to consume anything that tastes awful.
It's also not legal to sell it as a sweetener in this country. That speaks
volumes to me.

Do a search on Aspartame and you'll find two schools of thought. One is
that it is safe. That is the view shared by the vast majority. The other
school is that it is unsafe. That school is taught by Mama Betty (Betty
Martini, aka Nancy Markle). She has been proved to be as big a quack as
they come.

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8 14th April 09:58
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What country are you in? I can go down to my local store and buy Stevia
here in North Texas.


Pat in TX
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9 17th April 11:18
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Please specify "this country." I know for a fact that Stevia can be
legally sold in Japan, United States, and in most South American
countries.

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10 17th April 11:18
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Stevia can be sold in the U.S. only as a "supplement" and not as a
"food product." FDA has not approved Stevia as a food product.
Supplements do not have to be approved by the FDA, although they can be
banned after they have been found harmful.

Guy
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