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1 6th July 16:46
travis
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Default Viagra: better dissolved or whole?


hi,

Viagra works great for me. I know it works faster when its dissolved in
water, but does it last longer in the system if swallowed whole? or does it
make no difference?

thanks
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2 6th July 16:47
jerry sturdivant
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"Travis"

I don't believe it makes much difference. Have you tried using less? Many
have found the same results by cutting their pill in half. And the side
effects were lessened.

Just a thought.

Jerry of ASI
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3 6th July 16:47
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In <7u5Lb.1574$Ey6.1561@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, "Travis" <nospam@thanks.com> writes:


Hmmm, my first impression on reading this post was that it doesn't make
much difference but, I think there have been differences that I hadn't
thought out till now.

IIRC, the two "dirty old man--****age tent pole" events I've had in
public (out at the 4 to 6 hour point) occured after I had swallowed
whole. These two public hard-ons were in my first couple of months
of Viagra--so I was still in the, "Hey Joe, did you get a raise?" mode.

For me, the absorption rates are definitely different. Crushing
provides an earlier capability (15-20 min) with a slower build.
Swallowing whole has a later onset (35-40 min), a more "deliberate"
build, with more anxiety and a higher level of tension and urgency.

I probably have some individualized mental pathways that get more
involved as the coating slowly disolves. I think I have more
prounounced side effects (headache and visual) when I swallow
whole. Nasal is about the same. But, these may be more perception
differences that arise when I'm not in a hurry and have a few
moments to be introspective.

Clearly, more testing is needed !! (:-)

And, after we get the answer on Viagra, then we have to start over
with Levitra. Damn-- work, work, work .... will it never end ?

Regards, "Mike"
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4 13th July 01:52
newswatcher8905
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Default Viagra: better dissolved or whole? (down stomach headache erection nasal)


Typically I take the pill in solid fom. However, I read about
crushing/liquifying the blue pills in this group and decided to try it
last night to see if it would improve absorption. Did it ever!

Instead of actually "crushing" the pill, I used my pill chopper to
crunch a whole V down into more than four crumbly chunks (which
created a bunch of dust and pill shards), all of which I downed with a
glass of water on a very empty stomach (no food for 6+ hours prior; no
other meds for about three hours prior -- I wasn't planning *not* to
eat that evening, btw, it just worked out I was stuck into an activity
and skipped dinner until after I had *** late that night).

Most notably at first, I had very little side effects -- far less than
when taking the pill in its whole or half form, but they kicked in
SUPERFAST (within ten minutes or so). Only the tingly, facial "flush"
showed up. No "head cold" (no stuffy nose, no headache). I get
pronounced side effects regularly (terrible nasal congestion, by the
way) when taking the pill in solid form.

With the solid pill it can sometimes take up to an hour to "kick in"
if food or other meds are taken before ingesting Viagra, but I wonder
if crushing the Viagra, making it that much easier for the body to
absorb, is the way around the food issue? I will try a dose of crushed
(or even liquified) V after a meal sometime to test this. It would be
nice to cir***vent the whole "empty stomach" factor which can be
inconvenient if you've just had a meal with someone and then things
start getting intimate (the cart is out before the horse, in a manner
of speaking).

Perhaps best of all, the "desired effect" of the crushed drug
continued even after some 5 - 6 hours had passed, which is remarkable
versus the use of the solid form. Who'd'a thunk?

I also wonder if I can make do with a smaller dose if the pill is made
easier for the body to absorb. Perhaps so. It seems that with a larger
dose the only thing that's been more pronounced are the side effects,
but perhaps that also has something to do with the pill being in a
completely solid form versus a half-pill already with the coating off
one edge...? Just a thought.

I think the "pill form" is really all about the manufacturer having a
convenient way to measure and package the substance for dosage
identification and marketing, and we've just come to expect
medications to come that way. There was probably a reason why, a long
time ago, many meds were commonly provided in powder form to be mixed
into a draft (draught) or "potion" and (depending on the individual)
some medications probably do work better that way and some medications
can be in pill form and work just as well.

I think it's pretty obvious (for me) that crushing the pill (making it
easier for the bod to absorb) is a big improvement over the use of V
in solid, pill form. I would even go so far as to say the quality of
the erection was better, but that might just have been because I was
having a lot of fun last night... :-)

I do wonder if the protective coating does "insulate" the
effectiveness of the medication, though, until time of ingestion. I've
spilt pills in the past and had the second half not work as well as
the first (freshly split) half. Anyone else noticed this?

Thanks,
Jack
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5 13th July 01:52
jerry sturdivant
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No. I believe the food issue will still apply. It's simply that by crushing
the pill (myself and others dissolve it in an inch of water) it's able to be absorbed faster.

Depending on your timing; you might take the dissolved pill about 15-minutes
before the meal. That is, if you're going to have *** within your time window.


If you're going to have *** within 5 to 6 hours of taking the pill, meal
included, give it a try. Others have said it worked.

Many have found they can cut the pill in half and still have good results.
But I would try that independent of the meal trick. Just to see if it works.

I expect it also has to do with taste. Many of us have tried chewing the
pill so it would absorb faster. It really tastes bad. And presumably the
reason for the coating.


Jerry of ASI
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6 13th July 01:52
your.name
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You might want to read the literature on sildenafil before experimenting like
this....

Roughly 80% of a regular 100mg tablet is passed straight through the digestive
track. By increasing the absorbsion, you are effectively raising the dose.

While there have been some short term high dose studies, no one knows what long
term exposure to high doses of sildenafil does...
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7 13th July 01:55
newswatcher8905
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Thanks for the comments, Jerry.

Tried a crushed half a pill dissolved in water on a very empty stomach
(no food for 8 hours). Not as good an effect, though, as a whole pill.
Did a whole pill dissolved in water and it wasn't as good as just a
crushed pill, either. Too much water perhaps (I had a glassful). Oh
well. Odd about the half pill since in the past a half pill has had
good effect, but maybe I am just tired this week. How much shagging
can one do before caving in, right?

Will try the taking-a-meal-after-the-pill-has-absorbed test sometime
next week. For what it's worth, I find *** on an empty stomach to be
superior in general, though. The major inconvenience for me with the
med is all about finding out you've actually got an opportunity to hop
in the sack with someone and you just had lasagna for dinner. ;-)
I've had a number of disappointments taking V after dinner (even
waiting a couple hours). But I will try the test. If it works, great.

Good point about the taste driving the pill form with coating. I
wonder if pills could be successfully liquified in a suspension of
something sweet like apple juice -- without affecting the
absorption?... Just a thought.

Again, thanks.
Jack
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8 13th July 01:55
newswatcher8905
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Hard for me personally to believe it will be "dangerous" if doctors
already widely recommend splitting the 100 mg pill (which they do --
mine did); this removes the coating from a large portion of the pill
when you chop it down the middle. If the coating/dosage were that
crucial, I would think Pfizer would have made 50mg pills the standard
and recommended taking two instead for the 100mg standard dose. But
what do I know?

Any pharmacists or physicians in this group?...
Jack
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9 13th July 01:55
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On 13 Jan 2004 03:55:31 -0800, newswatcher8905@hotmail.com (Jack)


I had the same problems with V. It works fine but my wife and I often
go to dinner for a date and that really messes up the V uptake. Also,
if I take V before eating then the dinner ****s (upset stomach - not
much but enough to spoil my apetite). An wine over 1-2 glasses with
dinner kills the V effect for me as well. While I haven't tried
Levitra rip roaring drink, I have tried it over meals and more than a
couple drinks with excellant results. I have been using 20 mg but
think I can go down to 10 or 15 - need more trials )

The side effects are slightly more prononced (could again be a dosage
thing) but the ability to eat and drink before hand way offsets the
negatives for me.

YMMV,

Eric
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10 22nd July 00:55
jerry sturdivant
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Yea, it's not strictly a number game. We react differently at different
times. It takes a number of tests to get a good "average" result.


It's why many of us have changed to the shots.


For these pills, the coating is for looks and to keep the bitter taste away.
The danger in cutting pills is if they're "time released" type pills.
Cutting them destroys the time-releasing capabilities inherent in their
construction.

Jerry of ASI
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