jan drew

Of course not. With their vested interests and lies.
Seeing is believing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4MIm1mB7GM


http://www.medicalconsumers.org/page...orkforKidsorth...


http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/n...ory_70107.html


Kids' Flu Shot Largely Ineffective Over Past Few Years
Study finds it didn't keep them from hospitals, doctors' offices


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0829091323.htm


Flu Shot Does Not Reduce Risk Of Death, Research Shows


Not enough proof that flu shots work, researcher warns
Last Updated: Friday, October 27, 2006 | 2:03 PM ET
The Canadian Press
There isn't enough evidence that the flu vaccine is effective to
support public programs advocating widespread use of flu shots, a
controversial vaccine epidemiologist suggests.


In a commentary in Friday's British Medical Journal, Dr. Tom
Jefferson
argues that large-scale, long-term randomized controlled trials — the
gold standard for generating scientific evidence — should be
"urgently" undertaken to determine if flu shot programs are achieving
their goals of lowering rates of cases and deaths.


Not enough proof that flu shots work, researcher warns
Last Updated: Friday, October 27, 2006 | 2:03 PM ET
The Canadian Press
There isn't enough evidence that the flu vaccine is effective to
support public programs advocating widespread use of flu shots, a
controversial vaccine epidemiologist suggests.


In a commentary in Friday's British Medical Journal, Dr. Tom
Jefferson
argues that large-scale, long-term randomized controlled trials — the
gold standard for generating scientific evidence — should be
"urgently" undertaken to determine if flu shot programs are achieving
their goals of lowering rates of cases and deaths.


Flu Shot Season - Think twice before you shoot!
I'd like to repeat the Flu/Alzheimer's connection that
so many of you have asked about. According to Hugh Fudenberg, MD, the
world's leading immunogeneticist and 13th most quoted biologist of
our
times (nearly 850 papers in peer review journals), if an individual
has had five consecutive flu shots his/her chances of getting
Alzheimer's Disease is ten times higher than if they had one, two or
no shots. I asked Dr. Fudenberg why this was so and he said it was
due
to the mercury and aluminum that is in every flu shot (and some
childhood shots). The gradual mercury and aluminum buildup in the
brain causes cognitive dysfunction. Is that why Alzheimer's is
expected to quadruple? Notes: Recorded from Dr. Fudenberg's speech at
the NVIC International Vaccine Conference, Arlington, VA September,
1997. Quoted with permission. Alzheimer's to quadruple statement is
from John's Hopkins Newsletter Nov 1998. Dr. Fudenberg's web address
is www.nitrf.org. Interesting info on treating autism on the site.
Randall Neustaedter OMD author of The Vaccine Guide says this: The
flu
vaccine gets the most-useless-vaccine-of-all-time award. Now the CDC
is recommending the vaccine for children under two years old and all
adults over 50. Don't fall for it.


Flu Facts


* Flu vaccine manufacturers are notoriously inaccurate at predicting
the appropriate viruses to use in an individual year's vaccine,
rendering the vaccine ineffective.


* Flu vaccine is relatively ineffective in those patients most at
risk
of flu complications.


* The vaccine has caused GBS in recipients during several different
flu seasons.


* Those most at risk of flu complications probably share a higher
risk
of adverse reactions to the flu vaccine as well.


Fluzone is the new flu vaccine for babies (recommended 6 months to 23
months). You can get it as a 0.25 mL prefilled syringe (for pediatric
use) and as a 0.5 mL prefilled syringe. Fluzone contains mercury: 25
µg mercury/0.5 mL dose. It also has chicken embryos and formaldehyde
and Sucrose, Sodium phosphate, Sodium Chloride, Mercury, Gelatin,
Polyethylene Glycol p-Isooctylphenyl Ether, Fluzone is the new flu
vaccine for babies (recommended 6 months to 23 months). You can get
it
as a 0.25 mL prefilled syringe (for pediatric use) and as a 0.5 mL
prefilled syringe. Fluzone contains mercury: 25 µg mercury/0.5 mL
dose. It also has chicken embryos and formaldehyde and Sucrose,
Sodium
phosphate, Sodium Chloride, Mercury, Gelatin, Polyethylene Glycol p-
Isooctylphenyl Ether, Fluzone is the new flu vaccine for babies
(recommended 6 months to 23 months). You can get it as a 0.25 mL
prefilled syringe (for pediatric use) and as a 0.5 mL prefilled
syringe. Fluzone contains mercury: 25 µg mercury/0.5 mL dose. It also
has chicken embryos and formaldehyde and Sucrose, Sodium phosphate,
Sodium Chloride, Mercury, Gelatin, Polyethylene Glycol p-
Isooctylphenyl Ether, Hemaggluttinin.


Kids' Flu Shot Largely Ineffective Over Past Few Years
Study finds it didn't keep them from hospitals, doctors' offices


MONDAY, Oct. 6 (HealthDay News) -- Over the past two flu seasons,
vaccinating children five and younger did not reduce the number of
child hospitalizations or doctor's visits linked to influenza,
according to results of a new study.


Given the poor match between the flu vaccine and circulating strains
during the last two years, "this finding is not surprising," said Dr.
Robert Belshe, a professor of medicine and pediatrics and director of
the Center for Vaccine Development at the Saint Louis University
Medical Center, who was not involved in the study.


"We know that the inactivated vaccine -- the flu shot -- doesn't work
real well in children, particularly when the virus has evolved and
drifted away from the type that is put in the vaccine," he said.


Kids' Flu Shot Largely Ineffective Over Past Few Years
Study finds it didn't keep them from hospitals, doctors' offices


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0829091323.htm


Flu Shot Does Not Reduce Risk Of Death, Research Shows


ScienceDaily (Aug. 31, 2008) — The widely-held perception that the
influenza vaccination reduces overall mortality risk in the elderly
does not withstand careful scrutiny, according to researchers in
Alberta. The vaccine does confer protection against specific strains
of influenza, but its overall benefit appears to have been
exaggerated
by a number of observational studies that found a very large
reduction
in all-cause mortality among elderly patients who had been
vaccinated.


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The study included more than 700 matched elderly subjects, half of
whom had taken the vaccine and half of whom had not. After
controlling
for a wealth of variables that were largely not considered or simply
not available in previous studies that reported the mortality
benefit,
the researchers concluded that any such benefit "if present at all,
was very small and statistically non-significant and may simply be a
healthy-user artifact that they were unable to identify."


"While such a reduction in all-cause mortality would have been
impressive, these mortality benefits are likely implausible. Previous
studies were likely measuring a benefit not directly attributable to
the vaccine itself, but something specific to the individuals who
were
vaccinated—a healthy-user benefit or frailty bias," said Dean T.
Eurich,Ph.D. clinical epidemiologist and assistant professor at the
School of Public Health at the University of Alberta. "Over the last
two decades in the United Sates, even while vaccination rates among
the elderly have increased from 15 to 65 percent, there has been no
commensurate decrease in hospital admissions or all-cause mortality.
Further, only about 10 percent of winter-time deaths in the United
States are attributable to influenza, thus to suggest that the
vaccine
can reduce 50 percent of deaths from all causes is implausible in our
opinion."


Dr. Eurich and colleagues hypothesized that if the healthy-user
effect
was responsible for the mortality benefit associated with influenza
vaccination seen in observational studies, there should also be a
significant mortality benefit present during the "off-season".


To determine whether the observed mortality benefits were actually an
effect of the flu vaccine, therefore, they analyzed clinical data
from
records of all six hospitals in the Capital Health region in Alberta.
In total, they analyzed data from 704 patients 65 years of age and
older who were admitted to the hospital for community-acquired
pneumonia during non-flu season, half of whom had been vaccinated,
and
half of whom had not. Each vaccinated patient was matched to a non-
vaccinated patient with similar demographics, medical conditions,
functional status, smoking status and current prescription
medications.


In examining in-hospital mortality, they found that 12 percent of the
patients died overall, with a median length of stay of approximately
eight days. While analysis with a model similar to that employed by
past observational studies indeed showed that patients who were
vaccinated were about half as likely to die as unvaccinated patients,
a finding consistent with other studies, they found a striking
difference after adjusting for detailed clinical information, such as
the need for an advanced directive, pneumococcal immunizations,
socioeconomic status, as well as sex, smoking, functional status and
severity of disease. Controlling for those variables reduced the
relative risk of death to a statistically non-significant 19 percent.


Further analyses that included more than 3,400 patients from the same
cohort did not significantly alter the relative risk. The researchers
concluded that there was a difficult to capture healthy-user effect
among vaccinated patients.


"The healthy-user effect is seen in what doctors often refer to as
their 'good' patients— patients who are well-informed about their
health, who exercise regularly, do not smoke or have quit, drink only
in moderation, watch what they eat, come in regularly for health
maintenance visits and disease screenings, take their medications
exactly as prescribed— and quite religiously get vaccinated each year
so as to stay healthy. Such attributes are almost impossible to
capture in large scale studies using administrative databases," said
principal investigator Sumit Majumdar, M.D., M.P.H., associate
professor in the Faculty of Medicine & Dentistry at the University of
Alberta.


The finding has broad implications:


For patients: People with chronic diseases such as chronic
respiratory
diseases such as chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, immuno-
compromised patients, healthcare workers, family members or friends
who take care of elderly patients and others with greater exposure or
susceptibility to the influenza virus should still be vaccinated.
"But
you also need to take care of yourself. Everyone can reduce their
risk
by taking simple precautions," says Dr. Majumdar. "Wash your hands,
avoid sick kids and hospitals during flu season, consider antiviral
agents for prophylaxis and tell your doctor as soon as you feel
unwell
because there is still a chance to decrease symptoms and prevent
hospitalization if you get sick— because flu vaccine is not as
effective as people have been thinking it is."
For vaccine developers: Previously reported mortality reductions are
clearly inflated and erroneous–this may have stifled efforts at
developing newer and better vaccines especially for use in the
elderly.
For policy makers: Efforts directed at "improving quality of care"
are
better directed at where the evidence is, such as hand-washing,
vaccinating children and vaccinating healthcare workers.
Finally, Dr. Majumder said, the findings are a reminder to
researchers
that "the healthy-user effect is everywhere you don't want it to be."


The results will appear in the first

jan drew

Jerry Emmons Puyallup man paralyzed after routine vaccination

t

Ummm, I think to be honest, we need a second or third diagnosis. It would
seem reasonable considering the possible implications of this case. By at
least one pro vacer and one less than pro. Where is House when we need him?


On Nov 2, 11:48 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:

Like I said, you have to know how to interpret what you are seeing.
And, anyway, merely seeing something does not prove causality.

All of you anti-vacs love to cite VAERS to prove causality, when it is
not designed for that. I went a-hunting and found this:

This VAERS report that may be Desiree Jennings:

http://www.examiner.com/x-13791-Balt...to-flu-vaccine


Sore throat, nasal congestions, followed by fever, body aches, chills,
and headache.10/8/08 Medical records received, Dates of Service
10/2-10/3/09. Diagnosis: Weakness. Pt. experienced sore throat,
congestion, body aches, chills, headache, fatigue and fever 3 days
after receiving the influenza vaccine. The fatigue continued for
almost 2 weeks during which the patient continued to work, but on
9/12/09 she presented to the ED with generalized weakness,
lightheadedness and an episode of syncopy that was accompanied by
generalized convulsions. Admitted to the hospital from 9/12-9/14/09.
CK and LFT's were noted to be significantly elevated. Returned to work
on 9/17/09 and continued to experience nausea and syncope with all
over trembling and was readmitted to the hospital overnight. On 9/21
her PCP told her she had a positive ANA and lupus. Pt. began
experiencing chest pain, for which steroids were prescribed. She saw
an Infectious Disease MD on 9/22 and had a lumbar puncture which was
normal. Pt. began experiencing difficulty walking, chills, sweats,
tremors and vivid dreams with difficulty sleeping. She began having
headaches described as a ""cold spot"" on the back of her head, had
subsequently developed a stutter, but was able to speak clearly if she
whispered. Her symptoms persisted and progressed to erratic movements
of the toe, intermittent uncontrolled blinking, difficulty focusing,
uncontrolled shaking, cold feet and sharp pains in the legs. Upon this
admission the plan was to rule out GBS, MS, malignancy, Lyme and MG.
Pt. noted to have dystonia, speech dysfunction, gait dysfunction,
anxiety, SOB, photophobia, tinnitus in the left ear, and increase in
appetite, a 2 lb. weight loss. It was also noted that the symptoms
were worsened by warm water, especially at the knees. The admitting
neurologist felt that there was a strong psychogenic component to the
symptomology, and made a final diagnosis of weakness. 10/13/09 Medical
records received from dates 10/2/09-10/4/09 Presented to for eval of p
(REDACTED)"
(United States Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS), Public
Health Service (PHS), Centers for Disease Control (CDC) / Food and
Drug Administration (FDA), Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
(VAERS) 1990 - last week, CDC WONDER On-line Database Accessed at
http://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html on Nov 4, 2009 10:20:23 AM)

-x-x-x-x-x-x-x

Cue the anti-vacs to discount this in some manner.

PSYCHOGENIC DYSTONIA diagnosed by the treating doctors.

mark probert

Read the information carefully, The diagnosis was made by the doctors
treting her, not by anyone else. The report says: "The admitting

The admitting neurologist, the one who was seeing and believing, made
the diagnosis.

And, the other article I posted, from Dr. Novella, is from an academic
neurologist who practices at Yale. Academic physicians are salaried,
and do not make an extra dime when they see patients.
"Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message

t

Exactly! Needs be diagnosis by doctors NOT involved in the case. Just
wanting to help everyone to be honest.


On Nov 4, 7:58 pm, "t" <tool...@gmail.com> wrote:

Read the information carefully, The diagnosis was made by the doctors
treting her, not by anyone else. The report says: "The admitting

The admitting neurologist, the one who was seeing and believing, made
the diagnosis.

And, the other article I posted, from Dr. Novella, is from an academic
neurologist who practices at Yale. Academic physicians are salaried,
and do not make an extra dime when they see patients.
"Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message

mark probert

Steve Novella,et al, is not involved in the case and he concurs.

There is only one medical diagnosis, i.e. psychogenic dystonia.

BTW, I watched the YouBOOB and, have been around people with
physiological Dystonia.

As Jan said, seeing is believing. The people with physiological
Dystonia do not appear to have the same problems as the woman in the
video does.

Of course, I am not a medical doctor, and I do not play one on Usenet.
These are just my lay observations, but they are consistent with her
doctor, and the other doctors who reviewed the video.
"Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message