kathleen.dickson

You don't have to worry,
All the necessary people have
McSweegan's and Fish's email to
each other.

'Scared of it being known that
you should not even wait for the
rash to show up.

There would have been otherwise no ethical
way to conduct a vaccine trial, had it been
known, antibiotic prophylaxis is necessary
on tick attachment.

They would have to throw out that data point out.

Also, the vaccine never actually worked anyway.
Antigenic variation.

The whole vaccine thing was a complete and total
scam.

You can't prevent Lyme disease, really except in
pregnancy.


Can ya think of a reason why so many people in
this State (Insurance Cap of Earth) wanted me dead,
committed or locked up in jail? I have three congenitally
infected kids, and that is not supposed to happen.

And Lyme is an epidemic, and half the people
walking around infected, don't even know it.
'Just waiting for that immune suppressing
event. Like, vaccination with LymeRIX.

Welp, all this factual data about congenital infection
is not only at the USDOJ, in several places, but also
outside the country.

You can see why so many people hate my guts
and would like me to be dead, or declared insane.


But, that's a very old story anyway. 46 years...

Welp, my kids have been stolen and the rest of my
family is dead... Hmmmm... Welp, that's not an uncommon
story among Child-protective services victims. It could
be part of the kidnapping formula. Divide and Conquer.

Declare the parent insane for trying to protect their
kids.

Drive the parents nuts by sending them on wild goosechases
and hurt the kid who WANT the stuff the parent promised to
bring and now can't because it isn't where the "social worker"
told (lied) the parent it was... thinking this is fun to piss off
the parent, but the parent instead says, "What about the *kids*???
I told them I would bring this stuff that they asked me to
bring.... I haven't seen them in so long... "

Invent that the parent has command hallucinations to
kill the prosecutor.

Lie to EVERYONE in the entire community,
and let the real victims of child abuse, get hanged
or beaten death, or drowned, or starved by the Foster
parents, or chopped up and burned....

Who cares, right? Dead kids are nowhere NEAR as much
fun as alive kids whose parents are *endless* fun to torture.

Besides, DCF is never responsible for bad outcomes.

They are *completely* unaccountable. They just get paid
and have cracker-jack jewels and two-cow shoes, and
different hair color every month, and two-tones of
lipstick... All the important stuff necessary for a
lawyer to be successful in Kangaroo Kourt, where nothing
gets entered but perjury.

It's a great life, "social work".


Kathleen
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greegor

Kathleen: Ya wanna hear another good one they use?

When completely healthy parents fight hard in court,
the system players complain that to the parents it's
all about winning. We had caseworker complain
"Well, if you'd quit filing in court"...
And a Judge complained that we were
"preoccupied with this litigation".

Think about it, wouldn't there have to really
be something wrong with a parent to NOT fight
hard to get their kid back?

SHOULDN'T a parent BE "preoccupied" with getting
their kid back?

They get too carried away I think, because they
actually do encounter an amazing number of
parents who get just plain worn down and surrender.
The system does seem to use a "war of attrition"
that can wear down even very determined parents.

Yes, they do use "divide and conquer", constantly,
but usually this means breaking up couples.

In our case they never could actually SAY that they
wanted me out of the picture. I suspect this is
because they never had any REAL BASIS to say that
and so I suspect their legal department wouldn't
go along with that one because of the liability.

But in other cases, with very little basis, they
do dictate that hubby has to go, and in the
Maine DHS Logan Marr case, they told the childs
mother that she couldn't even TALK to her own
mother because the grandmother was dating a man
that DHS thought MIGHT maybe be a pervert.
(Without any substance as far as was reported.)

Olly North, Ken Lay, "Bear" Dupuy and the Wallis
family can tell you that sometimes the most
bizarre stories are true.

Four boys in New Jersey were starved to emaciation
in a Foster Adopter's home, despite caseworkers
checking on them around 30 times.
Isn't it incredible that emaciation could be
overlooked? Nobody checked for an actual
medical diagnosis for an eating disorder which
never existed?

In the "Age of Enron" as I call it, some of what
you say seems bizarre, but against a backdrop
of all of the KNOWN proven bizarreness, a person
just can't count you out.

Do you know what AFSCME is?
In the very rare cases where caseworkers get
criminally charged for their corruption,
AFSCME rushes in to defend them.

What political party is affiliated with AFSCME?

Have you ever seen the Disney anti-Nazi
propaganda cartoon "Education for Death"
from 1943? The animation depicts several
government intrusions into family life.
The idea of such heavyhanded government was
actually used to slam the Nazi's in US eyes.
Seeing this banned film today is very
interesting once you've experienced the
tender mercies of Child Protection child removal.

Holocaust survivors have said that death
is easier to take than Child Removal, because
in child removal situations, it feels like
a sort of ongoing "living death".

Others refer to the kids a "Orphans of the Living".

Another person pointed out that the term "genocide"
as used by the UN fits CPS Child Removals and
the "divide and conquer" tactic to break up
parenting couples without basis.

pohakuyakokane

On 19 Jan 2004 02:26:00 -0800, Greegor@hotmail.com (Greg Hanson)


Yep, that's why you wrote such a wonderful "Motion" to the court for
you lovely SO, and did such a bangup up job of impressing trainers
with your quick understanding and integration of the material they offered. Yessireebob.


Or are guilty as sin.

Like parents don't make war over long periods of time on their
children. Sherman recently pointed out how they have been known to use
the system for a place to park their kids while they party for a few
years.

Unlike you, who just want to give the girls a shower.

Yep. They do that all righty. They seem to think that strangers giving
little girls showers is not a really good thing. They seem to have
been prejudiced by the grooming behaviors of boyfriends that really
want the kids, not the mom they "courted."

They know that if they force the mother to make a choice she might,
just might, fudge it and when the kiddies are home, let the creting
back into the household unbeknownst to them. They aren't allowed to
park outside on the street and do survaillance ... though I think they
should in your case.

(Actually, I lied, the DO occasionally do survaillance when they think
it's very seriously warranted.)

What "liability?" That YOU Might sue them? Gosh YOU just said in
another post where I called you on having a suit as your main reason
for fuckin' over that family, "What suit?"

You are sooooooooo damn dumb I'm ashamed of my self for pickin' on a baby.


Did you notice that Sherman was familiar with that case, and as I've
said in the past, not all was publically known or shared (and by you
assholes of course, lied about). There was, apparently, a drug issue with g'ma.


Now there's a telling argument.


Yep. Hang'em all's my motto. Everyone that's actually guilty.

I think you are getting just a tad afield there, boobie.

Ah..found a soulmate, have yah? Startin' to worry your current
sucke...er...."SO" might be catchin' on to yah? Grooming yet another
lady with a "manufactured home" are yah? Tsk, Greegor, and publically too.

Well, given that more than one worker has been a sacrificial lamb to
others incompetence, or political expediency, who do you THINK should
come rushing in to see justice is done?


For shit sakes man....it's a union. Are you THAT politically naive?
Democrats. Are there any unions that are republican connected?

You really are a little child, aren't you?


You'd looooove a nazi system. It would put yet more children in
showers for you to watch.

You are a puke. You'll use anyone to satisfy your urges, won't you?


Are you too sick to understand what you are doing right now, in the
conversation you are having?

Whine, whine, whine...all the time.

Did you fail to notice that you didn't mention THE CHILD in your case,
yet again? Naw, you never, even with reminders from myself and others,
remember to give, at the least, a passing mention or credence to HER
loss YOU created.

Had you not moved into that household where would the girl be today?

Sick fuck.

Kane

kathleen.dickson

Yes, they TRULY are insane to say it is insane to love
your child and want to protect them.

Report all of this in formal complaints to the DOJ and
the DHHS.

And keep it coming at them, and have everyone on these
lists do the same.

Understand this: CPS *is* truly a domain of insanity.

There are two kinds of insanity: The cause, in this case
the hatefulness, evil lying sicko perverted tactics of
CPS, and the result, TRAUMA ("MASSIVE SUICICALITY") to
children.

I filed a racketeering complaint against the APA on the premise
that what they "do" is invalid science, and there are only
3 axes of mental compromise: Genetic, Organic, and Traumatic.

Psychotropics are brain damaging, and CPS really only has (duh)
Psychotropics services, and the very most important aspect
of CPS is that they truly only hire total morons and they
can never figure out their own problems or failures themselves,
nor are the inclinded to, given their psychopathology.

None of them have real jobs for the reason that they are
simply incapable, and by nature, are abusers themselves.

The "social workers" who have been employed by CPS and left,
did so because they could not stand to be a part of this
abuse system. That leaves NONE of them, who is actually
a human being, via the very definition, Love and Family.

CPS cannot figure anything out for themselves, because they
are too stupid, which is the same thing as selfish, and all
you have to do is examine each and everyone one of them
closely and you can find little of humanity, but plenty
of makeup and jewels, and the other end of the Spectrum,
TOTAL NOBODIES, who probably majored in stitchery and
watching soap operas.

CPS "authorities" also, such as is the case of Patricia Leebens
and Kenneth Marcus, could not make it in the real world and
if you read closely what they write, they themselves could
not be more paranoid, and for good reason, They KNOW what
they do is harmful. Not a one of them has any expertise and
let's face it, should not be in charge of something they
know nothing about, such as pharmacology.

AND Pharmacology does not fix the real problem of trauma
it only makes it worse. What's so hard about asking a kid,
"Why are you sad?" Why do they have to be drugged because
of ANXIETY, instead? What's wrong about asking a parent to
listen to that? There are very few conditions that can't be
remedied with the exception of drug abuse. Usually it is
just ignorance or parental stress, or ignorance of the school
staff and board, who refuse to recognize their responsibilities
to the WHOLE child, *as a living animal*. That happens to be often
about income for the Middle Class which is shrinking, EXACTLY as
Bill Curry said. So Rowland creates more jails then jobs, EXACTLY
AS BILL CURRY SAID. KIDS SHOULD NOT BE DRUGGED. PERIOD,

So what's the answer?

And why is there an economic squeeze in this country?
Because we are run by Republicans, who again, the greed
factor, selling out our children's tomorrow for YUPPIE
STUFF today. Exactly as Bill Curry said.

The answer was definitely NOT what the Bush Administration
did, they SCREWED THIS COUNTRY FOR YEARS TO COME, They ASKED
for terrorism, because think about it: Do we ever stop and
consider what we do to people when we buy that 10 dollar crock
pot from WalMart? Or the 10 dollar jeans that used to be 30
when you and I were teecnagers in the 70s?

The answer to stability was investment in energy right
here in America because it is an ABSOLUTE, that energy is
revenue. Think of how many jobs could have been paid for
and created if we stayed here in America and fixed the electical
infrastructure rather than clearing the way for Halliburton's
contracts?


Is the State really going to pay for the best professional
care? and at that, in the Rowland.com Administration, it is
clearly Play-For-Pay. In other words, they are all sluts
or they would not remain in that situation, since Rowland.com
operates solely for the income the Federal Government can
provide and that is Marc Ryan's (OPM) sole expertise.

blah blah is the reason we need more money, which is what Ryan
rodered them to do, in order to meet the new Federal Bar on
so-called numbers of abused and neglected children (state's
expenditures).

Bill Curry said this same thing over a year ago.

These agencies are run by such mental midgets, that they are
quite like these mid-level department store departmnent
managers who can handle little more than the inventory sheets
and the time cards. 'Answer the phone and pretend to be
boss-like, when there is really nothing going on, upstairs,
and you wonder what they say to their friends at parties...
and you wonder what goes through their minds as they prepare
to *present* themselves at parties-- the "IMPRESSIVE SOCIAL WORKER...
HOW DO I LOOK? "

They are too stupid for words, too stupid to know how
stupid they are, too stupid to see their own future,
too stupid to do anything more than fine tune their
genuine thuggery, and I think these people are innately
this hateful, but what puzzles me is where do you draw
the line between Hate and Greed, and Stupidity?

CPS are the LAST people who ought to be in charge of
DCF reform. How many years in CT have we awaited DCF
to reform themselves? Are they too "stupid" to see that
the rest of us see that they are just to "stupid" to handle
it themselves?


Let's see if Federal Prison doesn't assist with enlightening
the "gang". I am serious. This is criminal behavior,
malicious, unconstitutional, and all parents better the
hell do something themselves, because you never know when
a relative is going to totally lose their mind.

And this is very real, and I hear such stories, every single
day, I swear.

They need to be shown a lesson, and ****need to be taken down by
force of Constitutional Law,**** and made an example of, JAIL, FEDERAL
PRISON, and EXPOSED and EVERY SINGLE PARENT needs to be hip
to their tactics and let me tell you they are COMPLEX.

That is because they are genuinely insane.

They need to be taken down by THE FORCE OF THE LAW.

And, they will be. Kathleen
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greegor

Kathleen:
I agree with most of what you just posted,
except I am at a complete loss to see why
you seem to think Democrats will fix this.
They are the biggest cheerleaders for CPS.

CPS was started by a Democrat, Mondale.
The workers are almost all union Democrats.
The left scared the right away from complaining,
by threatening to say the right wingers were
"in favor of child abuse" (political demogoguery).

Kerry just took the Iowa Dem Caucus,
with Edwards 2nd and Dean only getting like 18%.

I'm not the center Democrat demographic,
but I liked Edwards because of his comments
about upsetting the DC Business As Usual
political machinery.

To me, Kerry is poison, partly because
his sister, Jessie Rasmussen, ran Iowa DHS
for years and was arrogant enough to refuse
to take the Ombudsman's office suggestions
for improvement after Shelby Duis died.

Did you know Kerry's sister ran Iowa DHS?

To be replaced with the fatass who ran Maine DHS
years before and while Logan Marr was removed
from her home without good reason, and placed
with an ANTISPANKING former caseworker who
duct taped her to a high chair in a basement,
covering her mouth.

Democrats all.

Which Democrats are less likely to ramp up
CPS EVEN MORE?

I am conservative, but not card carrying.

Edwards is enough of a "shake em up" guy
that I might even vote for him instead of
Bush. I think he could win more conservatives
and fence sitters than Kerry.

Kerry is too "old guard" Democrat I think.

I personally think Edwards would be more
likely to beat Bush than Kerry would.

The disenfranchised conservatives might like
the "shake em up guy" and vote for him.

Edwards says tax the heck out of the extreme
rich (multigenerational rich) and help out the
ordinary working schmoes living paycheck to paycheck.

It might surprise you that mainstream
conservatives have no love for the extreme rich.

Go to your caucus and get rid of Jessie Rasmussen's
brother Kerry, and I'll vote for Edwards.