11th August 06:16
Sad times on the RPD groups (cushing down scratching urinary bladder)
Perhaps that's on accHOWENT of The Puppy
Wizard EMBARRASSED you HOWETA posting.
"Regina Seaner" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
the truthteller (email@example.com)
Network Services Kit User (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Sergei Nester (email@example.com)
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Roxanne Masibay (email@example.com)
You've watched them HURT INTIMIDATE
and MURDER their dogs and LIE abHOWET
it CONSISTENTLY, for years. Havent you.
You mean their SICK and DEAD dogs.
The Puppy Wizard KNOWS.
The Puppy Wizard has IDENTIFIED E***POSED
and DISCREDITED HOWER DOG LOVERS for five years NHOWE.
You mean, UN LUCKILY, regina?
They'd get twenty if they were fed wholsome
fresh foods and not abused, regina.
When your HOWES Of Cards has finally
collapsed on itself and you got no place
to hide, no MOORE BLAMING DOGS for
BAD CHOICES cause The Puppy Wizard
has PROVEN all temperament and behavior
problems are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING, not BAD BREEDING
No, it's on accHOWENT of it may take four
or five years for The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME
to KILL a dog, regina. You're seein the fruits of
HOWER efforts to force intimidate and hurt dogs
to control them. Zeffie is a prime E***AMPLE
of HOWE STRESS breaks DHOWEN the body
and CAUSES cushing / addison's SYMPTOMS,
degenerative myopathies, neuralgias, adrenal,
thyroid and urinary/ bladder/irritable bHOWEL
DIS-EASE as well as cancer and even periodontal
DIS-EASE and decay.
You've SEEN the repeated ABUSE of dogs CAUSE
all these problems EVEN WITH your own dogs, regina,
right here in The Puppy Wizard's Human Behavior
Laboratory. Like professor SCRUFF SHAKE'S little
dog Maxie The FuriHOWESLY Obsessive Compulsive Masturbator.
You mean premature old age and IDIOPATHIC RAGE?
Did you SEE deirdre edwards MURDER her DEAD
DOG over destructive separation anxiHOWESNESS
and fightin with her other dogs?
"Ask Not For Whom The Bell Tolls... It Tolls For Thee."
Cause they REFUSED to STOP HURTING
and INTIMIDATING and restraining their dogs.
INDEED. You ready to throw in with The Puppy
Wizard and TEACH HOWER DOG LOVERS
HOWE to pupperly handle and train their dogs
and children, or are you gonna DEFEND your
universtiy training as professor SCRUFF SHAKE
The REASON you have been LURKING is cause
The Puppy Wizard EMBARRASSES posters who
HURT and INTIMIDATE and MURDER their dogs.
EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW IT WAS PREVENTABLE.
YOU'VE SEEN The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Student's
CONSISTENTLY REPORT 100% SUCCESS,
AND YOU'RE READY TO ENDORSE The Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual and IDENTIFY E***POSE and
DISCREDIT HOWER Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing
Punk Thug Cowards and ACTIVE INCURABLE
Won't you, regina.
From: Jerry Howe (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Subject: Re: Bigger dog attacked the smaller one, again
Date: 2002-05-09 19:54:30 PST
"Regina Seaner" <email@example.com> wrote in message news:3CDA7E48.firstname.lastname@example.org...
Sounds like you're an expert on FEAR of family dogs fighting
each other. I'm an expert on training dog to get along with
each other and making them want to do anything you ask.
Seems to me if I wanted dogs to fight, I'd
handle them as you do. ====================
Subject: Re Discipline. Also, SLEEP! Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003
02:38:46 -0500 From: Amanda <email@example.com>
My learning is progressive. I email or call him with
questions. But, i'm getting most of it myself. Something
How would we do it with our families?
that is kind of broad.. ask me specifics... or i'd still be
typing when your kids are in college
Me too.. i was abused... my mom was psycho... and i had
problems with anger.. i took it personally when my 6 yr old
wouldn't clean her room... i would sometimes cry is was so
strung out.. i didn't wanna spank but i didn't know what to do
instead.. so i spanked.. and then spanking didn't work.. and
then my dogs went nuts and i called this trainer and he showed
me how to do it.
pulling my hair, scratching me, slapping me, etc.
Mine hit me on purpose alot.. scratching.. climbing on me..
hurting me and then laughing.
Now as I post.. please don't think im trying to be a know it
all.. i simply wanna relay what i have learned... as it is
i've only been spank free for a week now and yell free for two
days (my neighbors two streets over are happy
Children, dogs, people.. they do thinks wrong because it
elicits your ultimate attention. Does your 3 year old enjoy
fingerpainting on walls? no... do they enjoy fighting the
minute you pick up the phone?? No.
They *know* they can command your attention.. and that's
what they want. same reason your dogs fight.. they think it
is controlling you.
Your kids want you watching their every move.. making sure
they eat.. dont talk to strangers.. because it means you are
watching THEM and not them watching you as it should be. they
should stay within x feet of you.. because they like mom and
she's cool and she keeps em safe... they shouldn't run and
expect you to chase them.. because you won't always be there
to chase them... that's how kids die or get lost.
When they learn to follow you.. it's all good.
Now, take my 19 mo old. She had this habit of sipping 4 oz
from her bottle and demanding more. if i didn't refill it..
she threw a hgue fit. Now she hands me her bottle and says
more.. and i tickle her... then i pick up her bottle and
pretend im drinking it.. i offer her a drink and snatch it
back saying MY Baba!! She wants that bottle.. so she takes it
and drinks it.. even tho i didn't refill it. we had a huge
problem with them taking things they cant have and when i
wanted it they ran... now i give the baby (19mo) my finger..
and she grabs it.. and i wiggle and shout My finger! that's
mine! Gimme it back.. playfully.. and she resists.. and i go
"Ooh.. can i have it please?" and she gives it to me and i
gleefully say Thank you! and she says you're welcome.. and i
give her the finger back... then i hand her say a lighter...
and we wrestle for a minute.. and i say... can i have that???
and she gives it over etc. Of course sometimes she'll have a
cool! book! and ill ask can i have that.. and shell say No.
and i say that's ok! and tickle her or snap my fingers and
say good girl naya.. good job.. then ill start my game again
and wrestle and try to take it gently... then.. can i have
that??? she gives it over. this works with everything now.
Yea... with the dog training you hide nothing.. no forced
control. you set the dog up for fail.. so you can distract
and praise and erase the thought.. same with the kids. Put
some unimportant paper all over.. when he goes to touch it..
make a sound and distract him.. then good boy, that's a nice
baby!... then repeat.. the minute he goes for the paper and
breaks the thgouth you throw him in the air and praise like mad!
Use your judgement.. if you have the distance/time to
distract... do it.. if you don't... pick them up and away..
but act like it's to throw em in the air.. so they don't know
youre forcing control by phsycially removing them... cuz when
you force control.. with the come command when you want your
dog away from something... or when you pull a dirty shoe from
your baby's mouth.. you put value on it.
Like when your kid puts a penny in its mouth.. youll try to
pry its mouth open to get it... and he'll clamp right down..
you gave that penny VALUE! it's not just a piece of crap..
mom WANTS IT!
so.. instead you make a game.. say you want em to smit it
out... walk somewhere else... attract their attention.. be
kinda sneaky... odds are the thing in their mought will get
annoying and they'll spit it out when they walk toward you...
if all else fails.. pry it outta their smiling jaws... snatch
em up away from falling down... but only when you have to..
then work realy hard to overcome that forced control.
Also don't make a big deal about it.. or else theyll learn not
only to command your attention, but also mom will always catch
me so she is watching me.. not me watching her.
those are my kids. I have had social workers with their
degrees in child development stop offering me services cuz
they couldn't handle my kids... my friends call mine the obstinate kids.
if you catch it before it happens.. loud sound.. big
distraction and PRAISE. if you catch it afterward... distract
and say oh my goodness! and pay attention to the other kid...
he wont get the attention... then explain how that hurts.
odds are your kid won't hurt another kid if he truly
understands its not nice.
i have.. everyone does in my family... i did it a few times
over 4 years... but that is because i didn't know how not to.
i know now.. and i wanna tell everyone i can.. so someone else
doesn't spank their kids due to a lack of knowledge.
my kids, 6yo, 3yo and 19 month old, favorite game is chasing
around the house (all 4 of us) with wooden spools yelling at
the top of our lungs "I'm gonna beat your a$$.. HA HA HA... no
IM gonna beat YOUR a$$ MU HA HA HA" my neighbors prolly
think im nuts.. but the kids love it dog even plays too
It gets worse... they all do it around that time.. they don't
want to sleep.. andyou know what? they don't grow out of it
until they're parents it's one of those times you have to
use your patience and keep distracting and praising.
he wants you upset.. he wants your undivided attention. you
have to refuse it.. no evil eye.. no "conner" quiet or not..
no anger.. complete nonchalance.. they have to have a total
complete entire lack fo negative attention.. and all they'll
be able to do is sit back and enjoy the positive!
One shout.. one name call.. one No! and it takes awhile to
work up to the positive only.
try not to.. but if you have to ok
when he goes to sit up.. when yous see the thought on his
face.. distract with sound and follow with praise or a song or giggle.
better than my method of plop em in the crib and let em cry.
No anger.. stay calm.. meditate, pray.. breath.. try to
remember they will not always be this small.. and youll never,
ever for anything get it back. it's what im using
He got you riled up.. what he wanted.. time to sleep.
no way... crying isn't a release.. sometimes.. maybe for
some people.. crying is frustration, pain, hunger,
sadness... sometimes joy.. sometimes tension.. but not
because of his life.. because he's insecure... their dealing
with negative and positive.. and thats what makes em
distraction and praise.. if all else fails get up and dance..
fast for day.. slow rocking at night.
cuzhe knows what you're doing. hold him instead.. or sit him
in your lap on the bed and rock
becuase it is forced control.
11th August 06:16
Sad times on the RPD groups (anxiety down stroke)
From: The Puppy Wizard (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Subject: "Shelters/Rescues" Soon To Be Next: -
Re: The end of Teddy the Bear
Date: 2002-11-25 08:31:39 PST HOWEDY Regina,
"Regina Seaner" <email@example.com> wrote in message news:3DE23982.C2EC553@virginia.edu...
Your efforts to "foster" were in fact what denied the
original dog's family to learn HOWE to handle and train their dog.
Separation anxiety can often be cured INSTANTLY. I seldom
have a SA case that can't be TRAINED in one or two days...
INDEED. You'd probably not recognize any of what my
students are doing, as TRAINING.
Dog trainin ain't LUCK, Regina. LUCK is for ****ERS.
A stroke of LUCK? If this other "adopeter" wasn't "pretty
laid back" and didn't mind his dog destroying his HOWES,
the dog would probably be returned to the SHELTER till
it was OUTTA TIME EFFORT AND MONEY, and needs
to be KILLED, TO BE FAIR, Regina.
Another rescue SUCCESS story? Or another shelter
profitting off of people's misery and laid back lack
of knowledge, inability, ignorance, viciousness, and
stupidity, to HELP with the dog problem, Regina?
All dog behavior problems are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
Your "shelters" are only providing a revolving door
for dogs with OWNERS in need of TRAINING, not dogs
in need of re-HOWESING with "laid back people" who
don't mind their dog's destroying their HOWESES.
Have you read our weekly faqs on HOWE to
understand this news group? What killfile system
do you have?
Does your shelter recommend and enjoy the services
of our friend ed w of http://www.petloss.com?
"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net wrote in message
I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do
know she's not here with us. I really can't blame
anyone here for her loss.
I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because
of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the
idea that my using a shock collar could have any
bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home.
Up until I started using it my main concern had been
keeping my dogs in their own yard.
Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my
concern became how to keep them from running
off for days on end.
I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled
in the anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world
now <g> A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely
housetrained, doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard,
and doesn't bark all the time.
IOW a great companion and friend.
Thanks Jerry! =====================
misty" <Momisty@webtv.net> wrote in message
We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.
Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars.
Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not
want to come back in the yard and would run for
days. The last time, Peach didn't come back home.
I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how
to train my dog. She is now border trained. A few
minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in
the yard. She no longer runs out into the road, I
can stop her from chasing cats and she no longer
cringes when we walk around the yard.
I can not say loud or long enough how much I
hate the e-fence and its collars. If you can't get
a regular fence then you need to train your dog.
I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep
my dog in our yard again.
The price was too high:-(
Robert Crim writes:
I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by
John Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.
This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.
The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.
To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog
into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that
hide behind fake names are more honest than people that
use their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante
dog breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better than
those that have studied and lived by their craft for
"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.
Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really care.
I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll never know.
I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.
Yes it was, and that is sad.
Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)