To get a good summary on the research looking at how effective it is,
follow the links below, hint, it ain't nuten to get workde up over:

Once upon a time, our fellow markd@toad-net.com
rambled on about "homeopathy, is it effective, research review.."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...


I have been reading the previously mentioned British thesis.

This Hahnemann who was a German MD spoke 8 different languages
fluently in addition to being an experimental chemist who tested his
medicines experimentally on patients.

What is truly stupid, are the stupid science geek criticisms voiced
here to date.

There appears more to homeopathy than what first meets the eye. At
any rate, the thesis readings are a whole lot more intelligent and
interesting than the crap posted on these ngs.

Just thought that you might want to know.

Thesis on homeopathy submitted to Staffordshire University
for the degree of Master of Philosophy
http://www.homeoint.org/morrell/british/index.htm

Here are two quotable quotes.

"The orthodox physician has, in short, been so indoctrinated by a
false logic, a false metaphysic, and a meretricious science, that his
mind is inaccessible to our point of view. To understand in any
particular sense what are our methods would call for a reorientation
too drastic for the ordinary mortal. [Robertson, 1978, p.93]"

"There is first disorder of government, and this proceeds from within
outwards until we have pathological changes in the tissues. In the
practice of medicine today the idea of government is not found, and
the tissue changes only are taken into account. He who considers
disease results to be the disease, is insane. It is an insanity in
medicine, an insanity that has grown out of the milder forms of mental
disorder in science, crazy whims. [Kent, 1900, p.22]"

The presentation of material in this thesis has really blown my
mind!!! It is very interesting reading.

Here, is another interesting quote on how homeopathy was documented to
be effective against the the London Cholera epidemic of 1854.

"In the London Cholera epidemic of 1854, of the 61 cases of cholera
treated [at the London Homeopathic Hospital], 10 died, a percentage of
16.4; of the 331 cases of choleraic and simple diarrhoea treated, 1
died.

The neighbouring [Allopathic] Middlesex Hospital received 231 cases of
cholera and 47 cases of choleraic diarrhea. Of the cholera patients
treated 123 died, a fatality rate of 53.2 per cent., amount the
victims being one of the nurses."
--
John Gohde,
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Isaac Asimov's Trilogy is "a whole lot more intelligent and interesting than
the crap posted on these ngs." But it is still fiction. And so is homeopathy.


This sounds like Dave's "higher plane" bullshit.


Crazy whims are proprietary to alternative medicine.


First, who was doing the counting? Second, how well do you suppose
homeopathy would do in a contest against MODERN medicine in treating
cholera? [Hint: the fatality rate for scientifically treated patients would
be zero, or nearly so.]

Just thought you might want to know.

--Rich

Once upon a time, our fellow Rich Shewmaker
rambled on about "Re: homeopathy, is it effective, research
review.."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

http://www.homeoint.org/morrell/british/index.htm
Samuel Hahnemann (1755-1843), founder of Homeopathy, a German
physician and chemist who spoke 8 different languages fluently gave up
his medical practice in disgust at its poor results(1782-3). He
published the main body of his homeopathic writings between 1805-28
and moved to Paris, France in 1835 at the age of 80 and practiced
homeopathy.

The facts are that Hahnemann was extremely successful in treating
deadly acute diseases like cholera with homeopathy.

If the science geeks on these ngs can be believed, then Samuel
Hahnemann should be called a Quack rather than an intellectual giant
who used the experimental method to develop his theories .

The facts are that homeopathy was proven to be a clinically effective
therapeutic method for treating deadly acute diseases like cholera.

I will repeat my earlier comments for the benefit of the
intellectually challenged science geeks on these ngs.

Shewmaker's comments are precisely how Medical Scientism operates.

The established theory of Medical Scientism is automatically assumed
to be backed by science, while any competition has to show evidence to
support their position.

Shewmaker possesses the characteristic of arrogance which is the
calling card of all Science Geeks.

Compared to the Masters thesis of Peter Morrell,
http://www.homeoint.org/morrell/british/index.htm
Shewmaker's comments are just plain stupid.

Just thought that you might want to know.
--
John Gohde,
Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science!

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"John 'the Man'" <DeMan@fcalorie.com>

Uh, no. That is not a fact. There are no controlled studies and that would
be needed to call this claim a "fact".

There is no such theory.

le moo

No, he wasn't.


Hahnemann was a quack. Those who still subscribe to his silly theories and
sell water and sugar pills to naive believers are quacks.


And Mr. Goode displays the ignorance of disease processes and human
physiology which is glaringly obvious on his website. Cholera is
characterized by violent diarrhea and kills by dehydration and electrolyte
depletion. It is treated with intravenous electrolyte solutions. GALLONS of
homeopathy might replace the lost fluids, but wouldn't provide electrolytes,
and would actually make the condition worse. (Most cholera epidemics today
happen in places where neither IV fluids and equipment nor people with the
skills to use them exist, but great success has been obtained by the
development of electrolyte salts in a packet that can be dissolved in boiled
water and given to the patient by mouth.)

--Rich

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/disea.../cholera_g.htm

Once upon a time, our fellow Rich Shewmaker
rambled on about "Re: homeopathy, is it effective, research
review.."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...


The good news is that the author of this thesis has a homepage, with a

My history on Western natural healing practices is progressing quite
nicely. Peter Morrell has done much of the scholar footwork for
me.

After all, I don't want to be known as a modern day Quack like our
fellow Rich Shewmaker, obviously is.
--
John Gohde,
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Once upon a time, our fellow Happy Dog
rambled on about "Re: homeopathy, is it effective, research
review.."
Our champion De-Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

"There are no controlled studies and that would be needed to call this
claim a "fact." "

Ha, ... Hah, Ha! Science geeks apparently don't believe that the
facts of history are facts!!!

"... you have my sympathies"
Science Officer Ash to Ripley, in the movie ALIEN.
--
John Gohde,
Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science!

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