Kiwilove_nospa 2012-08-08 04:30:54
This is from a later part of “Reaching to Heaven” by James van Praagh,
A spiritual journey through life and death.
What is this thing called love? Is it a natural instinct that we are born
with? Is it a behaviour that we have to learn and become conditioned to
accept? Is it a feeling captured in a lover’s gaze? Or is it, perhaps,
a mysterious, out-of-reach star — something that we will have to strive
lifetimes to attain?
I personally believe that love is ‘all’. I believe that it is that God
Force energy of which we are a part. This force is represented spiritually
by the Light, and we are of the Light. The brighter our light, the stronger
is our awareness of this part of our nature. We are born with this sense
of our light, and are encouraged either to increase it or hide it from
ourselves and from the rest of the world. Some of us lose sight of our
light and spend our life searching for poor substitutes for love.
Drugs, s**, and violence are some of love’s replacements.
When we begin to recognise the light of love within ourselves, it is
easier to it in another. When two people are “in love”, they see the light
in each other. The world outside does not exist for them because they are
in their private world of love, and they feel the splendour and joy that
When you begin to live from the inner light of your soul, the deepest
center of love, you truly begin to live as a spiritual being. Like someone
in love, you experience a relationship with your “heart self”. Each time
you have a kind thought, say a kind word, or are of serving to someone, you
are living the divine principle of love, and your love center expands.
You start to see the world through loving eyes and feel the beauty and
joy in all things. In essence, you experience heaven on earth.
This is insightful about a lot of things – worthwhile getting out from the
local library, or even buying – to keep it handy when you need to know
why you’re here on this earth at all.
(and hey, if you don’t believe in this kind of stuff – get use to it,
because you’ll get to hear more and more about it [this kind of talking] whether in this life, or the next, etc…) The more you listen to it,
the more it makes sense – instead of the c*** that passes for ‘reality’
here – and established thinking, the ‘norm’. etc. That which is hogwash.
Eerie rodent o 2012-08-08 04:30:59
This isn’t exactly new stuff, just a retread of stuff that’s been in print
since pen was put to paper(refer to “Hinduism”).
Kiwilove_nospa 2012-08-08 04:31:15
Well we need to be kept on reminded of what is important in life.
Not money, job or success – but ultimately things not material but that
of feelings, heart, and love. Things that do go with you upon your exit here.
And making friends counts for a great deal, etc.
Insanitize 2012-08-08 04:31:21
And how do we go about this. If we live our life hating ourself and forcing
ourselve in to a form of public isolation where everyone else deserves but
we do not.
How can one who has never accepted themself learn to accepted the love of
another, to love themself so that they can accept others love.
When you look into the eyes of a young child and see that glow in their
face and wonder what there is in you to promts such a reponse. How do they
not see the evil in you, the coldness that comes out whenever you see your
reflection, the self loathing that follows you.
I must stop now before I go farther into the abbys that is my mind..
The me you see is not the me I be
Mr. teatime 2012-08-08 04:31:32
I’ll be more willing to believe this when someone can explain to me why two
heterosexual males can’t be ‘in love’, or find love in their gaze at each
other – because this love is so f****** transcendant, right?
Eerie rodent o 2012-08-08 04:32:04
If I were a sociopath like many of these snake-oil salesmen, I’d probably
make a pretty good living wearing a robe, smiling enimatically a lot,
blathering age-old cliches, telling ppl to think positive, feigning contact
with the Great Beyond, selling books about UFO contacts, reading bird
Bc461 2012-08-08 04:32:06
”Eerie Rodent of Unusual Size & Typing Ability” (Department@fKeepingItReal.gov) writes:
You would not read any bird entrails.
You’d have to “read mine” first, that is!
Eerie rodent o 2012-08-08 04:32:11
Kiwilove_nospa 2012-08-08 04:32:24
There is of course, no difference between homosexual love and heterosexual
love – they are both of passion, spirit and heart.
Those believing in reincarnation know that one’s s** does change in different
lives – you can have a female spirit in a male physical body, and vice
I don’t know the spiritual view about sexual orientation – to know in
detail about homosexuals and their lesson here.
In article <90K9b.12283$4W5.firstname.lastname@example.org>, mr_teatime007
Arie 2012-08-11 09:20:45
Nevilemoofe 2012-08-11 09:20:55
Let’s get this straight. You believe that people have (at least) a
body, a mind and a “spirit” (whatever this is). Possibly other stuff,
like a “soul”, but let’s stick to the first three. It’s well known
that people’s bodies can be male or female. According to a fairly
broad consensus, minds also display sexual dimorphism, such that one
can have a “female mind trapped in a male body”, e.g. Now you’re
saying that “spirits” are also gendered? And worse still, that they
display “orientation”, the same as minds (and arguably, bodies) do? So
in sum, we have an array of three gender variables each with a number
of possible values equalling the number of available genders (2) times
the number of available orientations (3? straight, gay or bi, leaving
out the theoretical possibility of “asexual” as an orientation). Thus
each person’s full gender/orientation description can have any of 216
possible values, including such interesting combinations as “a lesbian
spirit and a homosexual male mind trapped in a straight male body”,
not to be confused with “a male bisexual spirit and a heterosexual
female mind comfortably clothed in a gay male body”, etc.
No wonder it’s so hard to find someone you can really feel comfortable with.
Mr. teatime 2012-08-11 09:20:57
The ‘romantic love’ the original poster was babbling about is, and that’s
what I’m talking about, the type of ‘love’ that one feels for a romantic
Michaela 2012-08-11 09:21:26
Love *is* powerful. I just don’t think it’s what we think it is. I’ll take a
guess that the love that New Agers — or at least some areas of New Age
– talk about has less to do with passion (which is exceptionally
conditional) than it has to do with the spirit’s love (entirely
The spirit being that very core within all of us. That which makes us ‘one’.
If I am you at my core, I must love you as such. Didn’t Jesus say something
to the effect of “treat them as you would have them treat you”?
Homosexuals, imo aren’t hurting anyone. That which happens here on earth
is not real. They are just experiencing life a little differently. H***,
they’re homosexuals because they treated a homosexual badly in their
previous life and now they need to know how it feels? I don’t know…
I still don’t buy into reincarnation.
But I am starting to realise that time doesn’t exist and that everything is
happening all at once. Something to the effect of “in the same moment
we split from the being, we joined him again.” Sorry that one’s particularly
difficult to articulate.
It seems to me at least that Harvey’s right: we will keep hearing more and
more of this stuff. But as Eerie said, it has been around for ages. I just
that due to technology, ideas can circulate much faster nowadays.
Otoh, once one has started on their spiritual path, one keeps meeting more
and more people on their own path. Life is like that. So it does indeed feel
if more people are suddenly becoming turned on to enlightenment.
Mr. teatime 2012-08-11 09:21:35
Er, right. It’s just another meditation thing that people are going to be
going through. The more I hear about it, well the more I’ll ignore it
because I’ll probably hear about it through the media, and I really hate the
media. I’m perfectly happy with my views on life and ‘spirituality’. I am
just always unhappy when someone tries to justify romantic love as something
almost godlike, because it seems to me the evidence overwhelmingly points to
it being something COMPLETELY human, about instinct, posession, and s**.
Just another person trying to dress f****** up in flowery words.
Humungousfungu 2012-08-25 04:46:47
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Kiwilove_nospa 2012-08-25 04:46:58
You are what you are – and you are what you want to be.
Eerie rodent o 2012-08-27 15:29:04
By 216, is that combinations or permutations. Cause I just think the order
in which your various selves are gay straight or bi probably isn’t