Usenetlyn 2012-05-03 02:40:50
I have been trying to bend my mind around this for awhile…
A woman I know is 31 and not married. This person is co-dependant on
her mother, and lives in a home her mother purchased for her. She
babysits for a living – is a state-licensed daycare provider for
low-income families. She has no health insurance, is obese and is
diabetic, which she currently controls with oral meds. She has been
off-and-on involved with a man who never finished high school and has
been in and out of jail his entire life. He is abusive to her and
they have some sort of twisted relationship – I can never get a
straight answer from her as to what is going on.
She recently talked another male friend (who is 45, on disability,
divorced and has two children already) into becoming a sperm donor for
her. Her plan is to get pregnant by this man, not require any support
from him, yet have the state pay for all of her health care, delivery,
neo-natal care, and apply for state benefits for the baby. This girl
doesn’t have a proverbial pot to p*** in, yet thinks it’s ok to
purposefully bring a child into this situation, not to mention the
health risks she is taking for herself and her child. She called me
to tell me all about this great plan of hers. I am utterly,
Kellyh 2012-05-05 21:38:26
I know this sounds awful, but maybe because she is obese and diabetic she
won’t get pregnant. I’m guessing that she plans on becoming pg the natural
way and not through AI. I swear, I think I need to start smoking crack and
drinking and become a self-absorbed b**** and then maybe I’ll become pg.
I’ve also had my share of idiots lately. At the shelter, we’ve been
dealing with a young woman who’s pg and needs to surrender who one year-old
male cats because they are spraying. We offered her *free* neutering, but
she “can’t deal” with them. Now, she’s missed her surrender appt twice
because she’s “busy”. I could go on about some other situations, but you
get the idea.
Usenetlyn 2012-05-05 21:38:29
It’s funny. She claims they are doing IUI but when I tried to talk to
her about it, she was totally clueless and kept asking me questions
about how to tell when she would be ovulating. $50 says she’s going
to just do the guy. No doubt she’ll get pg the first try.
Geez. I hate people sometimes.
Taramjayne 2012-05-05 21:38:34
If there is a god keeping me from getting pregnant because he is busy being
sure whatever-her-name-is is having a girl on her daddy’s birthday, then he
will surely give this be-otch AIDS trying. Sorry, rough week.
Daisymay94 2012-05-05 21:38:51
I am a Licensed Child Day Care Provider and we are NOT baby sitters, I have
never, and never intend to sit on any children and I do alot more than “sit”
them infront of a television and “sit” on the sofa and eat bon bons all day.
I dont’ know this woman so I can’t speak for her but please do not paint all
child care providers with the same brush – in home or in centers as
“Babysitters”, a baby sitter is someone who minds your child for a few
hours, a child care provider cares for and offers a structured learning
invironment for children. I work 12 hour days, 5 days a week, I am NOT a
The rest of your post… it sounds like the classic story of “I can’t find
anyone to love me my life is a mess – maybe a baby will make it better”
🙁 thats a shame for the child.
Usenetlyn 2012-05-05 21:38:57
Well, that’s what she calls *herself*, so don’t be p***** off at ME.
And I can hardly call what she does a “structured learning
environment”. She is more more along the lines of one who sits on her
a** all day and plops the kids in front of the tube.
Daisymay94 2012-05-05 21:39:05
I am not “p***** off” at you…
I simply asked you didn’t lump all providers into one s***** basket!
Dryad 2012-05-05 21:39:08
Hon, did you miss the rest of that post? Would this be a woman you’d be
happy to see be a parent?
Obviously, you’re on crack. That’s the only explanation for such a
stupid statement. Dryad
Dryad 2012-05-05 21:39:10
Dammit Peggy, I find myself even more confused over your post now that
I’ve realized you’re a regular poster!
I wish I could take back the crack comment, because I thought you were a
spammer (my bad), but I still don’t understand why you said the last
thing that you said. That seemed needlessly cruel to me.
Usenetlyn 2012-05-05 21:39:13
I didn’t, did I? I only stated her occupation to imply that the woman
isn’t exactly making big bucks. Heck, she can’t even afford to care
for herself properly – she makes less than 30K/yr. There’s nothing
wrong with being a day care provider – in fact I admire her (and you
for that matter) for doing a job most people couldn’t do (I know I
couldn’t!). But what I do take exception to is her entitlement
attitude that tax payers should support her purposely-bred child
simply because she *can* use the system and can’t afford to support
the child on her own. Sorry, but that mentality is just FUBAR. I
have no problem helping people when they come upon hard times. I have
a major problem with people bringing children (or additional children)
into the world when they can’t afford to care for them properly.
~c~ 2012-05-05 21:39:16
Speaking of FUBAR, did you see the movie?? If you didn’t, you
Tracy in texas 2012-05-05 21:39:19
I gals !
Well, there’s just one description for this :
“Survival of the dumbest” !!!!!!
– Tracy in Texas
-I can’t believe I still look on this newsgroup – I’m addicted !!!! HELP
-Getting older by the minute but I have still given up trying, although I
think about trying yet again every time I see a baby
– (“I will not do IVF again, I will not do IVF again . . .”)
-Slowly going crazy !!!
Daisymay94 2012-05-05 21:39:24
Excuse me dryad, No I’m not on crack, I’m on lupron right now I’m not really
in the mood to appricate your attitude.
I’m not even gonn go there…
Daisymay94 2012-05-05 21:39:26
“The rest of your post… it sounds like the classic story of “I can’t find
anyone to love me my life is a mess – maybe a baby will make it better”
🙁 thats a shame for the child.”
life… why is this cruel.
I HOPE you did not think I was implying that Lyn wanted a child for this
reason – if that is why you said it then we’ll just drop it because then I
can see you flipping out. For any other reason I just don’t get it. P
Dryad 2012-05-05 21:39:37
Okay, that *is* what I thought you were implying, which was why I got so
confused when I realized you were a regular poster. My bad, again. Uh,
can we just chalk up my posts to misunderstanding?
Missannieok 2012-05-05 21:39:40
I think, Peggy, that you hit the nail on the head. Your last
paragraph, on first glance, seemed directed at Lyn. But then I
noticed that you are a regular poster, and read it again. Then I
realized that it was directed at the woman Lyn referred to in her
Just to chime in, I know someone who calls herself a babysitter and
performs the nurturing and learning functions you describe. I call
her a nanny. She seems at a higher level than a mere sitter. I often
wonder why she calls herself a sitter, and have wondered if the title
I use instead insults her. She has never said as much, but maybe I
I know that titles are important, especially when one takes great
pride in what one does. I refuse to call the custodians at my work
janitors, though everyone else does with a regularity. Whatever
someone chooses to be called, I think you should respect that, even
when they are not in earshot.
However, I don’t think anyone meant to insult you! 🙂
Daisymay94 2012-05-05 21:39:43
I agree no one was trying to insult anyone… I just wanted to point out
that not all providers are “babyitters”. I often have people say “Don’t you
miss having a REAL job?” It’s a thorn in my side, and something that does
bother me. I have no problem correcting people when they ask..”Are you
I know in europe we are called “child minders” and there is actually a child
It’s not about the title… it’s about respect for people’s jobs what ever
they may be. I may not be a doctor or a lawyer or a Rocket scientist… but
I’m molding the minds of the next generation. Thats my place to be in the
world and I like that place.
Daisymay94 2012-05-05 21:39:45
Not a problem… if anyone came here and said that about a poster here then
they SHOULD be jumped on!
::::handing you my sidewalk chalk:::::