Tcoop 2015-12-08 18:21:15
I went for my 6 month check up today and my PSA was undetectable. My doctor
does want to start me on penile injections. I have been taking V***** and
that works to some degree, but not as well as it should, or as well as I
would like it to.
He said many times the injections speeds up the healing process, which i am
all for. I got back Friday for I assume what would be instructions on how it
I have some questions for the group, I assume some guys on here have done
1. How bad does it hurt, the idea of a needle stuck in the p****, doesn’t
sound very encouraging?
2. How well does it work and how long after the injection before it starts
3. How long does it work? and does it keep on working if ya know what i
4. Is it expensive and does insurance pay for it?
Thanks for the help,
Mh 2015-12-08 18:21:32
I just started experimenting with Papaverine injections a bit ago. I have
been out of the country for the past six weeks, and just got back… and
have not gotten past the jet lag enough to start back with them, but I will
share with you what I do know.
First of all, my urologist started me on Caverject. He showed me how to do
the injection by giving me one in his office. He then sent me on my way to
*do with it as I wished*. Well, some men have a problem with Prostaglandin,
which is a component of Caverject. It caused me to have a dull ache in the
base of my p****. The injection was not strong enough to give me a full
erection, but, if it had, I doubt that I would have wanted to use it for
anything due to the pain.
I later tried Muse, which is a urethral suppository. It gave me *some*
erection… but it, too, contains Prostaglandin and was painful. So I am
now trying Papaverine, which does *not* cause the pain, as there is no
Prostaglandin component. So far, I have not found an optimum dose. I keep
increasing each time… and eventually may ask the doctor to give me Bi-Mix,
which will be Papaverine and Phentolamine combined. Some people seem to
have better luck with this.
The injection, itself, is relatively painless. The needle is tiny… a
diabetic needle…. and the nerve endings on the side of the p**** are not
numerous (at least that’s the way my uro explained it to me). It’s really
not uncomfortable. After an injection, it takes about 15 to 20 minutes for
the erection to begin. I’m assuming that once I get the right dosage, it
will be just like before surgery… so far, it has been getting better with
each increase.. but it doesn’t last very long… about 30 minutes. I’ve
talked to guys who have a strong erection for about 2 hours with Bi-Mix….
and that’s where I’d like to get to eventually.
My doctor, too, has encouraged this. He says it helps to jumpstart the
return of the erectile function in some cases.
The prescription for Papaverine or Bi-Mix must be filled in a compounding
pharmacy, since these are not FDA approved for the treatment of ED. The
cost for a 10ml vial was $75 in my case, tho some people have told me they
pay less. How many injections one can get from the vial will be determined
by the potency of the drug for the individual. So, as yet, I can’t tell you
how much *per injection*, as I’m still experimenting.
I have read of other guys who said that standing made it easier to get an
erection. I was just *playing around solo* today…. and tried standing….
and it *did* make a difference. I’m 8 months post-op…. and was pleasantly
surprised to see that I had a semi-erection… and that was *without* an
injection. It gives me hope that the potential for return is there…. if I
keep working at it. I’m convinced this is something that has to be
*regained*…. kinda like physical therapy to restore use of a limb. If we
don’t push it… and use it….. then it’s less likely to come back.
Impotence has been the most devastating part of this whole ordeal for me
thus far….. terribly so, I must say….. and I’m determined to keep trying
whatever to get it back!! I also have a pump, btw…. and I use it just for
exercise… to help keep the blood flowing.
Please feel free to ask anything ….. If we can’t be candid on lists like
this, it seems we are defeating the purpose. So there’s really nothing I’d
mind answering. Or pmail if you’d rather.