ben smith

In article <V8idnd24OacsV-7fRVn-sg@comcast.com>, kevin1@spam.com says...

It will be enough. Once you understand basic programming logic and the
fundamentals of OOP, learning C# will be a breeze.

Honestly, scripting languages are really easy. I recommend trying to
learn on your own before shelling out that much money.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/learnit.mspx

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
us/script56/html/wsoriWindowsScriptHost.asp

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/script56/html/vtoriVBScript.asp

jim vierra

Too clarify.

a.. WSH, Windows Shell Host, hosts the scripting environment for administration.
b.. WSH supports: VBScript and jscript languages and can be extended to Perl and other languages from third parties.
c.. WScript/CScript are the exes that compile and run scripts. (One (W) has a windows output/input paradigm and the other (C) uses a Console I/O paradigm.
d.. Scripts can be placed inside "package" files (WXF) with multiple "jobs" selectable from the command line.
e.. Scripts can be encrypted and signed for security
f.. Scripts can input/output to GUI Windows, Console Windows, HTML, ASP pages
g.. Scripts can read and write files, database, web pages, xls, csv, xml, devices and nearly anything that is read/write.
h.. Scripts are intended to access the OS(W95 and later) and it's subsystems through providers such as ADSI, LDAP, RegProv, WMI and others
i.. Scripts can be executed from the Windows Performance Logs & Events system.
j.. Scripts can "listen" for system events.
k.. Scripts can generate system events.
l.. Scripts can access nearly all components of an OS and it's hardware remotely using WMI. (Windows Management Instrumentation)
m.. Scripts can be executed remotely.
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Jim Vierra

rowdy yates

you are such a ****ie roberts.

you just need WSH in your case.

but you might also want to learn a unix one 'cause you will p00p your pants
if they throw a unix/linux machine at you to work on. i learnt bash.

as an SA - your job is to "make things works" ; regrdless of product,
vendor, environment.

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jim vierra

Hey guys. Scripting languages are dead!

Prepare for the new wave Direct Neuro Access for Management.(DNAM). It's
coming soon. One small operation to pu an antenna in you head and - no more
scripting.

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Jim Vierra

jim vierra

The first beta will be available on April 31.

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Jim Vierra

rowdy yates

Yeah. GUI tools are all fine & dandy - until they don't do what you want
or expect them to do. Then it kind-a helps knowing why and what the hell
goes on behind the scenes when you click "button X" so you have some idea
what might be wrong and where to begin debugging & troubleshooting, until
then you are just another paper dumb a$$ MCSE staring a screen wondering
why it worked so well when the teacher did it in class.

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rowdy yates

Your surpassed reading and helpfulness in comprehension are only
eloquent.

BANG!

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rowdy yates

Mr. Spock called. He want's his hair piece back!

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al dunbar ms-mvp

Don't get me wrong. I was not suggesting that scripting is always better
than using a GUI, and agree that a competent SA would have more than one set
of tools on his bench.


It can be, but only for those who will learn from it, which sort of
precludes those who have not yet learned "how windows works at a fairly technical level".

I'd certainly agree if we were talking about scripters with little to no
understanding of what is actually going on under the hood, so to speak. But
someone who is very knowledgeable regarding how the system operates and who
is also an accomplished scripter is probably in a much better position than
you or I to determine where to draw the line.

But this seems somewhat counter to the position you have been arguing. /Al

jim vierra

I am punting for a holistic (my word for today) approach by all.

I started the day by getting irked by questions form a couple of admins that
wanted to do something with scripts and were to lazy to download the WSH 5.6
help file and look it up. I started in one frame of mid to respond to the
post but my better half made me back off and make a half attempt at posting
something useful.

So --- for those who were brave enough to read to the end --- there is
something useful.

For the rest --- boredom and a headache.

As for my "counter-position", "Script happens!"

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Jim Vierra