gene k

So do I. Stay with what you have used in the past and are familiar with the
features. In addition, I would add the free Windows Defender (Beta 2) (since
it is an active spyware blocker and will also enable you to control startup
programs among other things):
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx .
Gene K


| > I have just taken delivery of a new Dell desktop which came with
| > McAfee anti virus.
| > I have used a combination of AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and AdAware for
| > rears and have always been satisfied
| > Before I uninstall McAfee what is the opinion of others on how good
| > or not McAfee is?
|
|
| I think you're better off uninstalling McAfee and using AVG.
|
|
| --
| Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| Please reply to the newsgroup
|
|

tom willett

Oh, my. You should read about the problems people are having with the BETA
defender.

pappion

correction: Spyware Blaster...I had problems with "Doctor" too.


"Tom Willett" <tompepper@mvps.invalid> wrote in message news:e%23%23jfJfrGHA.148@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Oh, my. You should read about the problems people are having with the BETA defender.
"Gene K" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message news:%23gW8JEfrGHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

gene k

Odd, I have not viewed many postings about that particular problem
subject!!! Like the WGA, anything Microsoft provides brings out a lot of
problem posters who complain endlessly about problems that most don't
experience or find. Must be a BS in that field available from somewhere!
Please elucidate on anything you consider serious.

Gene K


| Oh, my. You should read about the problems people are having with the
BETA | defender. | |
| "Gene K" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message | news:%23gW8JEfrGHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > So do I. Stay with what you have used in the past and are familiar with
| > the
| > features. In addition, I would add the free Windows Defender (Beta 2)
| > (since
| > it is an active spyware blocker and will also enable you to control
| > startup
| > programs among other things):
| > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
| > .
| > Gene K
| > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
| > news:eF2NL9brGHA.3988@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | Blair wrote:
| > |
| > | > I have just taken delivery of a new Dell desktop which came with
| > | > McAfee anti virus.
| > | > I have used a combination of AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and AdAware for
| > | > rears and have always been satisfied
| > | > Before I uninstall McAfee what is the opinion of others on how good
| > | > or not McAfee is?
| > |
| > |
| > | I think you're better off uninstalling McAfee and using AVG.
| > |
| > |
| > | --
| > | Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| > | Please reply to the newsgroup
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

shank

Agreed. Please provide some proof, rather than come across as a general
microsoft basher.

I used Adaware and Spydoctor for years. When MS first brought out
Defender, I found it buggy and inaccurate, but the latest version does
everything Adaware and Spydoctor does, with a lot less interaction on my
part. When I first installed it, I regularly ran the other 2 as well,
and found that Defender missed nothing. I have had no problems of any
sort with it.


--
Rob

"It's almost like there's a record full of incomprehensible bullshit
playing in your mind 24/7, and you put the needle down randomly and
whatever it picks up, you just type it up in an email and shoot it off
to me, usually mid-sentence."

pappion

I merely found the Beta program seriously lacking, not reporting to me, nor could I find out what it was doing/finding, etc. And it just wasn't stable compared to what I have been using, so I removed it.

All of my problems are now resolved, save for one with my ZoomText not reading to me. Grrrr

That is not an XP Pro problem, I'm sure. But, HP is very concerned about my computer being so new and having had all of the problems I've had--I've owned computers since 1978, and never had such wobbly events.


subject!!! Like the WGA, anything Microsoft provides brings out a lot of
problem posters who complain endlessly about problems that most don't
experience or find. Must be a BS in that field available from somewhere!
Please elucidate on anything you consider serious. Gene K
"Tom Willett" <tompepper@mvps.invalid> wrote in message
news:e%23%23jfJfrGHA.148@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| Oh, my. You should read about the problems people are having with the
BETA
| defender. | |
| "Gene K" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote in message | news:%23gW8JEfrGHA.4252@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > So do I. Stay with what you have used in the past and are familiar with
| > the
| > features. In addition, I would add the free Windows Defender (Beta 2)
| > (since
| > it is an active spyware blocker and will also enable you to control
| > startup
| > programs among other things):
| > http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
| > .
| > Gene K
| > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
| > news:eF2NL9brGHA.3988@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | Blair wrote:
| > |
| > | > I have just taken delivery of a new Dell desktop which came with
| > | > McAfee anti virus.
| > | > I have used a combination of AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and AdAware for
| > | > rears and have always been satisfied
| > | > Before I uninstall McAfee what is the opinion of others on how good
| > | > or not McAfee is?
| > |
| > |
| > | I think you're better off uninstalling McAfee and using AVG.
| > |
| > |
| > | --
| > | Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| > | Please reply to the newsgroup
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

antioch

Hello Blair
If you are not a beta tester and you do not have an additional computer to
test on, then stay away from beta products - or expect to have your one and
only computer not working at times.
There are of other antispy progs to choose from, like

Paid for-
Spyware Detector
Spy Sweeper
Spyware Doctor

Free-
Ad-Aware
Spybot search and destroy
Windows Defender

Although the free ones are not as good at detecting/removing spyware and
they do not have the largest of Detection Databases compared to the paid
for, at least two will help to cover each others backs.
MS do not disclose the size of their database - probably explains why its
detection rate is not much better than 68% - but a bit better than Ad-Aware
and Spybot.
Re Defender, it has been mentioned that on first launch, it can be a bit
daunting and confusing if you get bombarded with a number of alerts and
warnings, with no explanation as to what to do next - scan or sort the
warnings?
It is said that prevention is better than cure, and I would say that Spyware
Blaster is very good at doing that.

The choice is yours ;-)
Rgds
Antioch

myveryownself

Same scenario for me.

IMO, McAfee is buggy, intrusive, performance-degrading, and difficult to
uninstall. (Even after uninstalling, I had to use msconfig to stop vestiges
from launching at start-up.)

I ended up using your combination (AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and AdAware) and
am generally satisfied.

frank saunders, ms-mvp oe

Windows Defender in it's current version is much improved, but some people
are still having problems with updating the definitions (and engine).

Also, if you're on a network that updates machines through SUS that won't
work. You would have to switch to WSUS.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security"

frank saunders, ms-mvp oe

Nix on MS's Beta Spyware--it missed tons on my new computer. I went back to
AdAware and Spyware Doctor, and run Trendmicro each week in addition. Thank
goodness I got rid of NSW so I can now program my System Tolls to do regular
scans for me. Good ole NSW had that locked up so we had to use "One Button
Check-Up" which snagged up all my Dragon profile files (after 26 hours of
dictating them for "training" Dragon). Ahhh free at last!


I'll bet most of what it missed was cookies, right? It doesn't check
cookies because they are just text files and can't hurt the machine.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security"