beartooth

It's been a couple years since I turned my W98 hard drive into a rifle
target, and I only miss one thing -- but I'm beginning to miss that
seriously : the use of my investment in maps, especially topo maps (from
Garmin, DeLorme, and others) that interface with my GPS. Ideally, I'd
like to be able to run the connection in real time, on a laptop with
YellowDog 3.1, on my lap as a passenger; but using it at all, on a
desktop running RH9, would help a lot.

Can anyone here guess when such things might become practicable?

uwe bonnes

: It's been a couple years since I turned my W98 hard drive into a rifle
: target, and I only miss one thing -- but I'm beginning to miss that
: seriously : the use of my investment in maps, especially topo maps (from
: Garmin, DeLorme, and others) that interface with my GPS. Ideally, I'd
: like to be able to run the connection in real time, on a laptop with
: YellowDog 3.1, on my lap as a passenger; but using it at all, on a
: desktop running RH9, would help a lot.

: Can anyone here guess when such things might become practicable?

Did you try already? Arecent, well configured wine should go a long way...


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uwe bonnes

: It's been a couple years since I turned my W98 hard drive into a rifle
: target, and I only miss one thing -- but I'm beginning to miss that
: seriously : the use of my investment in maps, especially topo maps (from
: Garmin, DeLorme, and others) that interface with my GPS. Ideally, I'd
: like to be able to run the connection in real time, on a laptop with
: YellowDog 3.1, on my lap as a passenger; but using it at all, on a
: desktop running RH9, would help a lot.

: Can anyone here guess when such things might become practicable?

Did you try already? A recent, well configured wine should go a long way...

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Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt
--------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

beartooth

Actually, the last time was with RH 7.2 -- and I couldn't even find
direcions simple enough to get started with. Maybe I'm just not technoid
enough to be doing this.

Anyway, now I'm running RH9, with whatever wine came bundled with it --
I wouldn't have the suspicion of a clue as to configuring it -- and still
don't know how to invoke wine, let alone the map programs. Are there any
really newbie-oriented directions somewhere, or do I effectively have to
wait till it gets out of beta?

uwe bonnes

:> Beartooth <Beartooth@ydl.net> wrote:
:> :
:> : Can anyone here guess when such things might become practicable?
:>
:> Did you try already? A recent, well configured wine should go a long way...

: Actually, the last time was with RH 7.2 -- and I couldn't even find :
direcions simple enough to get started with. Maybe I'm just not technoid :
enough to be doing this.

: Anyway, now I'm running RH9, with whatever wine came bundled with it -- :
I wouldn't have the suspicion of a clue as to configuring it -- and still :
don't know how to invoke wine, let alone the map programs. Are there any :
really newbie-oriented directions somewhere, or do I effectively have to :
wait till it gets out of beta?

You get wine for free. so you pay with the time to read the docs.

Start e.g. at http://www.winehq.com.

Bye

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Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt
--------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

beartooth

Versteht sich -- koennte ich nur ...

Of course -- if only they were written for people who can't themselves write code ...


OK, even that was news; many thanks!

I went to winehq, then to the AppDB, and searched GPS, DeLorme, and
Garmin. No hits: preliminary answer is No Dice.

So I went back to winehq. Like most such, it reminds me of Claude
Chevalley's book on Lie groups, way back before I got out of math. That
started, very properly, with a very brief Chapter Zero on prerequisites
-- stuff even I knew. Then the brightest guy I knew, two years ahead of
me, tackled it; he really could read it -- and reported that he spent a
whole afternoon, working hard and feeling like he was getting a lot done,
only to discover that he had made it through 1 1/2 pages.

Can't any of you hotshots take any pity at all on people who just want to
learn to *use* stuff -- like writing baby docs in English, that don't
reqire a professoriate in CS to read, for mere mortals? With three degees
and a distinguished record, surely I have at least average capability ;
but even if it made any sense, I'm too old to spend five years getting up
to speed by learning linux properly, and I have too many other things to
do with what time I have left -- like hike and hunt, until my arthritic
joints put an end to the outdoors for me.

Btw, I did find an interested hotshot, a year or two ago, who made
copies of my map material to try to use with wine. He hasn't
reported any success whatever so far; that's why I asked here.

ivan leo murray-smith

Get the latest version of wine from
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6241
The current build for RH9 is at
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wine/wine-20031016-1rh9winehq.i686.rpm?download
then have a look at
www003.portalis.it/115/
You can use the instructions there to get started. BTW wine isn't beta,
it's alpha, that means it's even worst than beta.

rein klazes

Technically is cannot even be alpha until all architecturally changes
(dll separation for instance) are in place.

Rein.
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ivan leo murray-smith

Then it's pre-alpha? Tell Alexandre, so he can change the announce.

rein klazes

Check it yourself. Alexandre gets it correctly, he announces it still as
"a developers only release".

Rein.
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