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1 1st June 08:47
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"One hour after hearing about the ***-abuse allegations against
Michael Jackson on Wednesday, Las Vegas hotel attendant Donna Green
and her two ****agers donned the I BELIEVE MICHAEL JACKSON buttons
she'd made for earlier Jackson controversies and picketed outside a
local music-video studio used by the pop star.

JUST THREE WEEKS ago, Green's two children--Brian, 15, and Heather,
18--had accompanied Jackson on a shopping spree at FAO Schwarz on the
Las Vegas Strip. Now Green, 39, the founder of the King of Pop
Fanatics fan club and a four-time guest (along with her kids) at
Jackson's Santa Barbara Neverland Ranch, watched as her idol was
charged with child molestation. Jackson, who was booked then released
on $3 million bail late Thursday, has said through his lawyer Mark
Geragos that the multiple charges of child molestation are
"categorically untrue." Green told NEWSWEEK's Steve Friess why she
believes Jackson's telling the truth. Excerpts:

NEWSWEEK: How did you feel when you heard of these latest allegations?

Donna Green: I broke down and started crying. I couldn't stop crying.
I felt so bad for Michael. It was like 1993 [when similar charges
arose] all over again. I felt, "Not again, they're not doing this
again to him," are they?


Who's "they"?

There's always someone out to get him. The parents, the family of the
boy, people in the media ... Someone.


So you don't think the allegations are true?

Look, if you're a child molester, you think you're only going to
molest two children in your whole lifetime? He's had hundreds and
hundreds of children around him. Don't you think there would be others
making these claims if he was really like that? There's something in
me that knows he's not guilty. With Michael, I just know.


Why do you feel so strongly about Michael Jackson?

It goes way back to the early 1970s with me. Everything was the
Jacksons and the Osmonds back then. But I became a die-hard fan when I
saw [the 1983 TV special] "Motown 25." That was the first time the
world saw what Michael could do on his own. I remember literally where
I was in my room as a ****ager. I got chills. I've been crazy about
him ever since. If he was appearing anywhere and I could go, I would.


How many times have you seen him perform in concert?

I think eight altogether, and also other things like the "Jackson
Family Honors," the Grammys, things like that. In 1997, I took my
daughter to Hawaii and paid $1,000 each for us to sit in the third
row. I was even outside the Neverland ranch in 1993 the day of his
famous Oprah interview.


So your children are also fans?

Oh, they've been raised on him. I was listening to his music all the
time when I was pregnant with them. When Heather was 3, I took her to
a "Bad" concert in Los Angeles.

Even if these charges aren't true, you have to admit that Michael
Jackson is a peculiar figure.

So other people think. Why is he so peculiar? Because of what people
say about him. But how many people have been brought up like Michael
Jackson, never having a childhood, never getting to go out and play?
He's been isolated all his life. How is he supposed to live a normal
life?


So you see him as a tragic figure?

I see him as someone who is picked on. He's a target for the way he
looks, his lifestyle. He loves children. The media take it and twist
it and make it ***ual. People don't think that maybe he loves being
around children because he missed that.


How did you first come into contact with him?

About five years ago, I made this huge birthday card for him and had
it signed by hundreds of fans all over the world. I left it at the
gate of his ranch and a few months later, he called to thank me for
it. He invited us to the Neverland Ranch.


What's the ranch like?

It was better than Disneyland. It's magical, really. There's an
amu*****t park, an arcade, a zoo. You can go on a ride as many times
as you want, you don't have to stand in any lines. They're kind enough
to serve you lunch. They have an outside buffet.


How did Jackson act there?

Michael was never there when we were there.


But you have met him, right?

Oh, yes. We had several phone conversations and we finally met last
month in Las Vegas. He invited my children to come with him to the toy
store and he was holding my daughter's hand. When you go shopping with
Michael Jackson, it's a big production. There's a lot of pushing and
shoving, and he was saying to her, "Hold on tight, I don't want you to
get shoved or hurt or to get lost." That's the kind of caring person
he is.


What did he buy for them?

You know, he told them to pick out whatever they wanted, but my
children didn't do that. They didn't want anything. They just were so
happy to be with him.


How do you respond to commentators who ask what parent in their right
mind would allow their children to spend time with this man?

If you don't know Michael personally, then, yeah, whether it's Michael
Jackson or any adult, you should think twice about letting them have
your kids. But I'm speaking personally. I'm not saying we have this
close relationship, but I've been a fan who has had conversations on
the phone over the years and having personal conversations with him, I
feel I know his heart. I would not even give it a second thought. One
time we were on the phone and he had had some children with cancer at
the ranch and he was crying talking about them. This is a personal
conversation. I bring it out in the open because I want people to know
how human he is.


Are you concerned that other people will think you're strange for
being such an advocate for Michael Jackson?

I know there are people out there who look at me and say, "Why don't
you grow up?" But I'm married, I have a normal life. I don't live and
breath this. But what was I supposed to do--when I turned 21 just stop
liking someone? Sure, you don't see many people my age driving around
in a car with Michael Jackson stickers all over it. I'm not ashamed. I
do it because I feel bad for him, for all the stuff he's been through.
This is my way of saying I understand him more than the average person
does. "
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2 1st June 08:48
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: "One hour after hearing about the ***-abuse allegations against
: Michael Jackson on Wednesday, Las Vegas hotel attendant Donna Green
: and her two ****agers donned the I BELIEVE MICHAEL JACKSON buttons
: she'd made for earlier Jackson controversies and picketed outside a
: local music-video studio used by the pop star.

: JUST THREE WEEKS ago, Green's two children--Brian, 15, and Heather,
: 18--had accompanied Jackson on a shopping spree at FAO Schwarz on the
: Las Vegas Strip. Now Green, 39, the founder of the King of Pop
: Fanatics fan club and a four-time guest (along with her kids) at
: Jackson's Santa Barbara Neverland Ranch,

If this woman was nothing more than an "average" fan (although I find it
hard to believe there are serious fans of someone you have to keep signs
of support for when "controversies" occur), that would be one thing. But
it sounds like she is pimping her kids out to Jackson just like the
parents of the kid that might the one in the latest charges.

Fiona
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3 2nd June 06:46
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Blax always "cover" for a brutha...
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http://www.msnbc.com/news/996261.asp?0cv=CA01&cp1=1

"One hour after hearing about the ***-abuse allegations against
Michael Jackson on Wednesday, Las Vegas hotel attendant Donna Green
and her two ****agers donned the I BELIEVE MICHAEL JACKSON buttons
she'd made for earlier Jackson controversies and picketed outside a
local music-video studio used by the pop star.

JUST THREE WEEKS ago, Green's two children--Brian, 15, and Heather,
18--had accompanied Jackson on a shopping spree at FAO Schwarz on the
Las Vegas Strip. Now Green, 39, the founder of the King of Pop
Fanatics fan club and a four-time guest (along with her kids) at
Jackson's Santa Barbara Neverland Ranch, watched as her idol was
charged with child molestation. Jackson, who was booked then released
on $3 million bail late Thursday, has said through his lawyer Mark
Geragos that the multiple charges of child molestation are
"categorically untrue." Green told NEWSWEEK's Steve Friess why she
believes Jackson's telling the truth. Excerpts:

NEWSWEEK: How did you feel when you heard of these latest allegations?

Donna Green: I broke down and started crying. I couldn't stop crying.
I felt so bad for Michael. It was like 1993 [when similar charges
arose] all over again. I felt, "Not again, they're not doing this
again to him," are they?


Who's "they"?

There's always someone out to get him. The parents, the family of the
boy, people in the media ... Someone.


So you don't think the allegations are true?

Look, if you're a child molester, you think you're only going to
molest two children in your whole lifetime? He's had hundreds and
hundreds of children around him. Don't you think there would be others
making these claims if he was really like that? There's something in
me that knows he's not guilty. With Michael, I just know.


Why do you feel so strongly about Michael Jackson?

It goes way back to the early 1970s with me. Everything was the
Jacksons and the Osmonds back then. But I became a die-hard fan when I
saw [the 1983 TV special] "Motown 25." That was the first time the
world saw what Michael could do on his own. I remember literally where
I was in my room as a ****ager. I got chills. I've been crazy about
him ever since. If he was appearing anywhere and I could go, I would.


How many times have you seen him perform in concert?

I think eight altogether, and also other things like the "Jackson
Family Honors," the Grammys, things like that. In 1997, I took my
daughter to Hawaii and paid $1,000 each for us to sit in the third
row. I was even outside the Neverland ranch in 1993 the day of his
famous Oprah interview.


So your children are also fans?

Oh, they've been raised on him. I was listening to his music all the
time when I was pregnant with them. When Heather was 3, I took her to
a "Bad" concert in Los Angeles.

Even if these charges aren't true, you have to admit that Michael
Jackson is a peculiar figure.

So other people think. Why is he so peculiar? Because of what people
say about him. But how many people have been brought up like Michael
Jackson, never having a childhood, never getting to go out and play?
He's been isolated all his life. How is he supposed to live a normal
life?


So you see him as a tragic figure?

I see him as someone who is picked on. He's a target for the way he
looks, his lifestyle. He loves children. The media take it and twist
it and make it ***ual. People don't think that maybe he loves being
around children because he missed that.


How did you first come into contact with him?

About five years ago, I made this huge birthday card for him and had
it signed by hundreds of fans all over the world. I left it at the
gate of his ranch and a few months later, he called to thank me for
it. He invited us to the Neverland Ranch.


What's the ranch like?

It was better than Disneyland. It's magical, really. There's an
amu*****t park, an arcade, a zoo. You can go on a ride as many times
as you want, you don't have to stand in any lines. They're kind enough
to serve you lunch. They have an outside buffet.


How did Jackson act there?

Michael was never there when we were there.


But you have met him, right?

Oh, yes. We had several phone conversations and we finally met last
month in Las Vegas. He invited my children to come with him to the toy
store and he was holding my daughter's hand. When you go shopping with
Michael Jackson, it's a big production. There's a lot of pushing and
shoving, and he was saying to her, "Hold on tight, I don't want you to
get shoved or hurt or to get lost." That's the kind of caring person
he is.


What did he buy for them?

You know, he told them to pick out whatever they wanted, but my
children didn't do that. They didn't want anything. They just were so
happy to be with him.


How do you respond to commentators who ask what parent in their right
mind would allow their children to spend time with this man?

If you don't know Michael personally, then, yeah, whether it's Michael
Jackson or any adult, you should think twice about letting them have
your kids. But I'm speaking personally. I'm not saying we have this
close relationship, but I've been a fan who has had conversations on
the phone over the years and having personal conversations with him, I
feel I know his heart. I would not even give it a second thought. One
time we were on the phone and he had had some children with cancer at
the ranch and he was crying talking about them. This is a personal
conversation. I bring it out in the open because I want people to know
how human he is.


Are you concerned that other people will think you're strange for
being such an advocate for Michael Jackson?

I know there are people out there who look at me and say, "Why don't
you grow up?" But I'm married, I have a normal life. I don't live and
breath this. But what was I supposed to do--when I turned 21 just stop
liking someone? Sure, you don't see many people my age driving around
in a car with Michael Jackson stickers all over it. I'm not ashamed. I
do it because I feel bad for him, for all the stuff he's been through.
This is my way of saying I understand him more than the average person
does. "
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4 2nd June 06:47
byker
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http://www.msnbc.com/news/996261.asp?0cv=CA01&cp1=1

"One hour after hearing about the ***-abuse allegations against
Michael Jackson on Wednesday, Las Vegas hotel attendant Donna Green
and her two ****agers donned the I BELIEVE MICHAEL JACKSON buttons
she'd made for earlier Jackson controversies and picketed outside a
local music-video studio used by the pop star.

JUST THREE WEEKS ago, Green's two children--Brian, 15, and Heather,
18--had accompanied Jackson on a shopping spree at FAO Schwarz on the
Las Vegas Strip. Now Green, 39, the founder of the King of Pop
Fanatics fan club and a four-time guest (along with her kids) at
Jackson's Santa Barbara Neverland Ranch, watched as her idol was
charged with child molestation. Jackson, who was booked then released
on $3 million bail late Thursday, has said through his lawyer Mark
Geragos that the multiple charges of child molestation are
"categorically untrue." Green told NEWSWEEK's Steve Friess why she
believes Jackson's telling the truth. Excerpts:

NEWSWEEK: How did you feel when you heard of these latest allegations?

Donna Green: I broke down and started crying. I couldn't stop crying.
I felt so bad for Michael. It was like 1993 [when similar charges
arose] all over again. I felt, "Not again, they're not doing this
again to him," are they?


Who's "they"?

There's always someone out to get him. The parents, the family of the
boy, people in the media ... Someone.


So you don't think the allegations are true?

Look, if you're a child molester, you think you're only going to
molest two children in your whole lifetime? He's had hundreds and
hundreds of children around him. Don't you think there would be others
making these claims if he was really like that? There's something in
me that knows he's not guilty. With Michael, I just know.


Why do you feel so strongly about Michael Jackson?

It goes way back to the early 1970s with me. Everything was the
Jacksons and the Osmonds back then. But I became a die-hard fan when I
saw [the 1983 TV special] "Motown 25." That was the first time the
world saw what Michael could do on his own. I remember literally where
I was in my room as a ****ager. I got chills. I've been crazy about
him ever since. If he was appearing anywhere and I could go, I would.


How many times have you seen him perform in concert?

I think eight altogether, and also other things like the "Jackson
Family Honors," the Grammys, things like that. In 1997, I took my
daughter to Hawaii and paid $1,000 each for us to sit in the third
row. I was even outside the Neverland ranch in 1993 the day of his
famous Oprah interview.


So your children are also fans?

Oh, they've been raised on him. I was listening to his music all the
time when I was pregnant with them. When Heather was 3, I took her to
a "Bad" concert in Los Angeles.

Even if these charges aren't true, you have to admit that Michael
Jackson is a peculiar figure.

So other people think. Why is he so peculiar? Because of what people
say about him. But how many people have been brought up like Michael
Jackson, never having a childhood, never getting to go out and play?
He's been isolated all his life. How is he supposed to live a normal
life?


So you see him as a tragic figure?

I see him as someone who is picked on. He's a target for the way he
looks, his lifestyle. He loves children. The media take it and twist
it and make it ***ual. People don't think that maybe he loves being
around children because he missed that.


How did you first come into contact with him?

About five years ago, I made this huge birthday card for him and had
it signed by hundreds of fans all over the world. I left it at the
gate of his ranch and a few months later, he called to thank me for
it. He invited us to the Neverland Ranch.


What's the ranch like?

It was better than Disneyland. It's magical, really. There's an
amu*****t park, an arcade, a zoo. You can go on a ride as many times
as you want, you don't have to stand in any lines. They're kind enough
to serve you lunch. They have an outside buffet.


How did Jackson act there?

Michael was never there when we were there.


But you have met him, right?

Oh, yes. We had several phone conversations and we finally met last
month in Las Vegas. He invited my children to come with him to the toy
store and he was holding my daughter's hand. When you go shopping with
Michael Jackson, it's a big production. There's a lot of pushing and
shoving, and he was saying to her, "Hold on tight, I don't want you to
get shoved or hurt or to get lost." That's the kind of caring person
he is.


What did he buy for them?

You know, he told them to pick out whatever they wanted, but my
children didn't do that. They didn't want anything. They just were so
happy to be with him.


How do you respond to commentators who ask what parent in their right
mind would allow their children to spend time with this man?

If you don't know Michael personally, then, yeah, whether it's Michael
Jackson or any adult, you should think twice about letting them have
your kids. But I'm speaking personally. I'm not saying we have this
close relationship, but I've been a fan who has had conversations on
the phone over the years and having personal conversations with him, I
feel I know his heart. I would not even give it a second thought. One
time we were on the phone and he had had some children with cancer at
the ranch and he was crying talking about them. This is a personal
conversation. I bring it out in the open because I want people to know
how human he is.


Are you concerned that other people will think you're strange for
being such an advocate for Michael Jackson?

I know there are people out there who look at me and say, "Why don't
you grow up?" But I'm married, I have a normal life. I don't live and
breath this. But what was I supposed to do--when I turned 21 just stop
liking someone? Sure, you don't see many people my age driving around
in a car with Michael Jackson stickers all over it. I'm not ashamed. I
do it because I feel bad for him, for all the stuff he's been through.
This is my way of saying I understand him more than the average person
does. "
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5 2nd June 06:47
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The most remarkable thing to me about this story is the level
of hatred being directed at someone who's never been found
guilty of anything. Now compare that to the relative quiet
in this newsgroup about Robert Durst, a man who *admits*
to shooting a 60 year-old man and cutting up his body, being
found not guilty of murder.

It's a testiment to just how horribly shallow and easily led by
mass media hype most people are.

Rick
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6 2nd June 06:48
rick
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The most remarkable thing to me about this story is the level
of hatred being directed at someone who's never been found
guilty of anything. Now compare that to the relative quiet
in this newsgroup about Robert Durst, a man who *admits*
to shooting a 60 year-old man and cutting up his body, being
found not guilty of murder.

It's a testiment to just how horribly shallow and easily led by
mass media hype most people are.

Rick
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7 2nd June 06:48
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You're right. He's never been convicted of a
similar crime because he paid $26 million to
keep the victim from testifying. Even if he
tries that this time, it won't work.

Wrong newsgroup. Check out alt.true-crime.

...and which "hype side" are you on?

Kris
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8 2nd June 06:48
rick
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I believe people should get the evidence first, and then make
their judgment. On Jackson or anyone. If you or I were
accused of a crime, especially one as heinous as this, we'd
hope to receive the same treatment. That's all.

Rick
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9 2nd June 06:49
kris baker
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You're right. He's never been convicted of a
similar crime because he paid $26 million to
keep the victim from testifying. Even if he
tries that this time, it won't work.

Wrong newsgroup. Check out alt.true-crime.

...and which "hype side" are you on?

Kris
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10 2nd June 06:49
rick
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I believe people should get the evidence first, and then make
their judgment. On Jackson or anyone. If you or I were
accused of a crime, especially one as heinous as this, we'd
hope to receive the same treatment. That's all.

Rick
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