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1 26th February 06:28
sjhhhtm
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Those of you who are in possession of this lovely book,may kindly open
page/56 and also Harminder's GK - II for details of the film YATEEM
('45).

The former in his book mentions of Md Rafi & Durrani's songs in this
film.

Can the son of Khurshid Anwar enlighten us about this.Also,Harminder
seems to have simply filled the page with absurd info!

I am extremely critical in this respect!

Jay
30/11
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2 26th February 06:28
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This sounds so rude and crude.

I am extremely critical in THIS respect.


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3 26th February 06:28
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Does the son of JAY's father not know when to SHUT UP?


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Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
http://hindi-movies-songs.com/index.html
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4 26th February 13:21
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Kyon bhaisaheb, aap ko mirchi lag ***ee?

I too make so MANY errors,I adore criticism.Why not you?

Its a fact.Acept reality.Harminder is a thorough gentleman,I
repeat.Its the erroneaous info of songs that is being imbibed by
readers.Yes, its a fact - how can you repudiate!Even MG in his book is
WRONG.There are no songs sung by Rafi in this film.ANY TAKERS to
contest?

There is only one song: Aa jaa mere pyare,ummeed ki naddi ke
kinarey...by Rajkumari tuned by K.Datta.These are the initial wordings
& NOT what GK-II has published.Surely now,the detractors will ask me:
what is the proof??Well.its obvious! Or come to my
listening-sessions.I don't expect anything from you in return.Aawo, aa
ke araam sey geeton ka rasa-swaadan karo,chhai peeyo,aur gaane
suno,phir chale jaana

Thats all Sir!
Jay
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5 26th February 13:21
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Dapola sha~Nkha, ahamada dilaavara aura akabara Kaan peshaavarii. That's all Sir!

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6 26th February 13:21
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Although MG book contains many errors,
but about this particular information, he is
RIGHT. How is it......!
Fortunately Allah has distributed knowledge among His creations so that
it may be acquired by those who strive
for this honestly, without wearing any
glasses.
Rafi did sang one song in this film -
mein uss sey karooN pyar
vo mujh sey karey pyar
I have already narrated how and why KA
left the film - Yateem. After his exit this
song was recorded in GMD's voice for
GP record by either Gadeker(KA's assiss-
tant) or by K.Datta.
Rafi's version is available in the film only
if someone can get hold the print.

A quiz for JAY.
C.Ramchandra was a great fan of KA.
According to his own account he used to
listen to KA's reharsals by standing at
the window of the reharsal room( this was
narrated by Tanvir Naqvi, who had a long
association with CR, in his article -
Filmi Sha'iree - published in weekly
Lail-o-Nahaar edited by Faiz in1962).
CR was insired by this song and composed a song in late 50's.
Can JAY kindly solve this quiz?

Warm regards,

Irfan

P.S (HINT) The mukh.Da has somewhat
the same words in different setting.
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7 26th February 13:21
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Hi Jay , Have you ever played the following in your listening
sessions ?
1. The second recorded filmi qawwali after Zeenat.

2. The first Rafi - Amirbai duet .

Obviously not because you donot know and have not heard them .
If you know the songs Pl. get back and don't go into hiding .

- kp

I don't expect anything from you in return.Aawo, aa
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8 27th February 06:52
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Hello:
Well.there have been a no.of qawalis after ZEENAT.And I have
personally heard them on record.But,I do not reckon them since they
lack that 'appeal' and have rejected them from a collector's angle.For
instance,only testerday I cam across a qawali from the film,DAWLAT KE
LIYE sung by Khurshid Pervez.But it lacks that 'appeal'.Now,coming to
your question,I feel the 2nd best qawali truly appealing is the Hafeez
Khan composed: Mera salam ley ja...from MERA SALAM ('57) rendered by
Bande Hasan/Rafi/chorus.

The first ever duet filmi duet of Rafi/Amirbai,I reckon is from ARAB
KA SITARA ('46) rendered by Amirbai/Rafi under the baton of Allah
Rakha.The record came on REGAL label.This was followed by some lovely
duets in SHAHNAZ ('48) tuned by Amirbai Karnataki herself!And this was
further followed by the BIKHRE MOTI('49) duet to be further followed
by the duet-chorus from JANMASHTAMI('50). Jay 2/12
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9 27th February 06:52
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I feel INPUT DATA is not enough to spot out the mysterious number.

If CR used to listen 'chupke chupke' to listen to KA's takes during
the late '50s as you mention (KA had migrated to Pak around '53,to be
noted),the ONLY POSSIBLE film songs could have been from
either,SINGAAR or NISHANA or
NEELAM PARI.Unfortunately,I can't find any of KA's compositions
imbibed by CR to have inspired him in weaving out anything anything
'even proximate'! I could be wrong still.

Jay
2/12
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10 27th February 06:52
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Khurshid Anwar was in Bombay since
1940. CR's listening period which he mentioned to Tanvir Naqvi was early
and mid 1940s. KA and CR became friends afterwards. Naushad and Anilda
were always good friends of KA and
occasionally used to come to KA's
reharsals and recordings.
Now coming to the quiz.
Film YATEEM 's song(available at
Surjit ji's site) sung by GMD -
mein ussey karoN pyar
vo mujh sey karey pyar
Film NAVRANG's song by Asha -
tum merey mein teri
Just humm or sing GMD's song on
slightly slower rhythm and it is clear.

Irfan
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