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1 25th May 16:32
hojo2x
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Here's an article from today's NY Times.

We really are the canary in the mine shaft here in Alaska when it comes to
global warming - there has been a RADICAL change in the climate in the 21 years
I've lived here.

It needs more study, I know....


Wade Hampton Miller
Chugiak, Alaska


Here's the article:


Baked Alaska on the Menu?
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF


KAKTOVIK, Alaska

Skeptics of global warming should come to this Eskimo village on the Arctic
Ocean, roughly 250 miles north of the Arctic Circle. It's hard to be complacent
about climate change when you're in an area that normally is home to animals
like polar bears and wolverines, but is now attracting robins.

A robin even built its nest in town this year (there is no word in the local
Inupiat Eskimo language for robins). And last year a (presumably shivering)
porcupine arrived.

The Okpilak River valley was historically too cold and dry for willows, and in
the Inupiat language "Okpilak" means "river with no willows." Yet a warmer,
wetter climate means that now it's crowded with willows.

The warming ocean is also bringing salmon, three kinds now, to waters here. The
Eskimos say there were almost no salmon a generation ago.

"The weather is different, really different," said 92-year-old Nora Agiak,
speaking in the Inupiat language and wearing moose-skin moccasins and a jacket
with wolverine fur. "We're not getting as many icebergs as we used to. Maybe
the world moved because it's getting warmer."

In the past, I've been skeptical about costly steps (like those in the Kyoto
accord) to confront climate change. But I'm changing my mind. The evidence,
while still somewhat incomplete, is steadily mounting that our carbon emissions
are causing an accelerating global warming that amounts to a major threat to
the world in which we live.

Alaska has warmed by eight degrees, on average, in the winter, over the last
three decades, according to meteorological records. The U.S. Arctic Research
Commission says that today's Arctic temperatures are the highest in the last
400 years, and perhaps much longer.

The U.S. Navy reports that in areas traversed by its submarines, Arctic ice
volume decreased 42 percent over the last 35 years, and the average thickness
of ice below water declined 4.3 feet. The Office of Naval Research warns that
"one plausible outcome" is that the summer Arctic ice cap will disappear
completely by 2050.

"We've got climate change," Robert Thompson, a native guide, says flatly. He
notes that pack ice, which always used to hover offshore, providing a home for
polar bears, now sometimes retreats hundreds of miles north of Kaktovik. That
has caused some bears to drown and leaves others stranded on land.

(After a polar bear was spotted outside Kaktovik's post office one snowy
morning, the locals explained what to do if you bump into a famished polar
bear: Yell and throw stones, and above all, don't run!)

For hundreds of years, the Eskimos here used ice cellars in the permafrost. But
now the permafrost is melting, and these ice cellars are filling with water and
becoming useless.

Kaktovik's airstrip, 50 years old, has begun to flood because of higher seas,
so it may be moved upland. Another native village, Shishmaref, has voted to
abandon its location entirely because of rising seas.

In the hamlet of Deadhorse, I ran into an Arctic native named Jackson Snyder,
who said that winters were getting "a lot warmer — doesn't get much below 50
below anymore."

That may not seem so bad. But while there will be benefits to a warmer Alaska
(a longer growing season, ice-free ports), climate change can also lead to crop
failures, spread tropical diseases and turn Bangladesh into tidal pools. The
pace of warming may be far too fast for animals, humans or ecosystems to
adjust. My advice is that if you're planning a dream home in New Orleans or on
the Chesapeake, put it on stilts.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, reflecting a consensus of
scientists, concluded that human activity had probably caused most global
warming in recent decades. It predicted that in this century, the seas will
rise 4 to 35 inches.

Some 14,000 years ago, a warming trend apparently raised the sea level by 70
feet in just a few hundred years. Today's computer models don't foresee a
repeat of that, but they also can't explain why it happened then.

That's why I'm changing my mind about the need for major steps to address
carbon emissions. Global warming is still an uncertain threat, but it may well
become one of the major challenges of this century. Certainly our government
should do more about it than censor discussions of climate change in E.P.A.
reports.

Unless we act soon, we may find waves lapping the beaches of Ohio.

Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company
Wade Hampton Miller
Chugiak, Alaska

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2 30th May 02:22
ray boyce
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Wade thans for sharing this... I just heard a great global warning series on
National Public Radio, (btw- I'm really enjoying this station nowadays, 88.5
fm the jazz one in Seattle), and it's really incredible how fast much of
this seems to be moving. I was amazed and puzzled that after all the
evidence was presented, they ended with a tone kind of like, "...but nobody
knows if this is bad", "...just different, just changing", and then "we
need more study to know it means.".

HUH???? I can't see how this may be even moderately good. Study any
ecosystem history and find out what happens when you change just one
ingredient, even just add or subtract to an already existing ingredient.

For the record, I'm interested in the environment, and what's happening.
Just fyi, I am not a tree huggin, veggie eatin, "tofu turkey" kind of guy.
(Thanks for the line George... those who were at the gathering know what
this means.)

Anyway thanks for sharing Wade.

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3 30th May 02:23
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Wade thans for sharing this... I just heard a great global warning series on
National Public Radio, (btw- I'm really enjoying this station nowadays, 88.5
fm the jazz one in Seattle), and it's really incredible how fast much of
this seems to be moving. I was amazed and puzzled that after all the
evidence was presented, they ended with a tone kind of like, "...but nobody
knows if this is bad", "...just different, just changing", and then "we
need more study to know it means.".

HUH???? I can't see how this may be even moderately good. Study any
ecosystem history and find out what happens when you change just one
ingredient, even just add or subtract to an already existing ingredient.

For the record, I'm interested in the environment, and what's happening.
Just fyi, I am not a tree huggin, veggie eatin, "tofu turkey" kind of guy.
(Thanks for the line George... those who were at the gathering know what
this means.)

Anyway thanks for sharing Wade.

will

70

well

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4 30th May 23:12
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related article. waterfront property has been soaring in value in recent
years.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/states/florida/counties/broward_county/6759623.htm


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5 1st June 17:52
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My Republican friend says it is all a "statistical anomaly." There is no
such thing as global warming. It is all part of the "liberal conspiracy"
and nothing has been proved. It is time for us "tree huggers" to get over
it.

But I'm sure glad I don't have property in Florida anymore. It was only
about 5 feet above sea level 20 years ago.

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6 4th June 13:42
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snip some good stuff.


If Lumpy were here, he'd be getting all excited right now.

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