intheway1

Go to the light, misterian, go to the light.

dianee

is

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Bruce, why don't you make mp3s of the 2 different versions you have, so
someone can post them, and we can all decide for ourselves which one of you
is right.

DianeE

savoybg

Fred, I know you're not THAT stupid.

DEan and I proved that he was listening to the wrong versions of two songs.

I proved that he was working off of comilations by listing about 10 items where
he listed incorrect information that he only could have gotten from
comilations...

So choke on this!!!

I win, you lose, so zip it.

Tell them to open their ears.

More evidence that artists' memories can't be trusted.

Fred, the bigger fool, gets crushed in this court.

intheway1

Apologies in advance to Bruce's legion of fans, and to those craven souls who
"hate" him, too.

OK, Bruce, we will go over everything again!


Your first post on the subject that I responded to was that Marsh didn't own
the records he listed and was working off compilations.

Did you forget it? Here it is:

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"Subject: Re: The Heart of Rock and Soul
From: savoybg@aol.com (SavoyBG)
Date: 10/30/2003 12:36 PM Central Standard Time

Except for the fact that he does not even own most of the records in the book
on a 45, especially the things he listed by artists like the Five Royales. You
can tell by some of his mistakes that he was working off of greatest hits
comps, rather than the actual 45's

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That's it Bruce. Choke on it, cause you never came close to proving it.

You came up with one such mistake. Dean came up with another. You offered
absolutely no other proof he didn't own the records or what version he listened
to.

You subsequently admitted this and belligerently resorted to "betting your
balls" that he did to support your argument, a tactic no real historian would
ever adopt in place of reliance on facts.

You tried to revive it once by listing the songs where he got the "titles"
wrong, as if sloppy copyediting (which is really what that is) is some how
indicative of what Marsh listened to. There is no logic to that argument.
None. It is a stupid leap of faith, which is driven only by your fanatical
need to be considered a bigger and better authority than Marsh. Can't you be
satisfied with the waves of love and admiration of your buddies on the
newsgroup?

As I recall, you also produced "proof" of Marsh's errors in the form of his
opinion of the Orioles. His opinion. Of course, later on, you said that
everyone is entitled to an opinion, but obviously not when you disagree with
it.

Sorry, you lose this one. Now shut up.


I thought this one was a lot of fun.

You raised "Soul Man" as an example of an alternate take because you could no
longer anything to prove your original post. Nice shift of subject, but you
didn't fool anyone.

As to that "alternate take" itself, let's see. We have, on one side, several
personal memories of having heard an alternate version versus label documents
that say there is only one master recording.
Applying Bruce's Law of Evidence, documents beat memories unless the memories
are Bruce's, and then documents don't count because someone could make a
clerical error (and I admit there is no one I know more qualified to assess
clerical accuracy than you).

Could your holy grail "alternate take" be some flawed copy of the original
master? Sure. But that does not make it an alternate take by any stretch of
the definition.

By the way, Isaac Hayes, David Porter, Steve Cropper, Duck Dunn and Sam Moore
disagree with you about the existence of an alternate take, too. They believe
the documents AND their memories. Of course, they are not competent sources


documents in question, has never made any inquiry to the labels in question and
is relying on his memory.

Under Bruce's Law of Evidence, Bruce wins. In the real world, where Bruce is
just a fool, he loses.

End of rehash.

Time to send in the clown! Fred


This of course, is a complete and intentional misquote. I explained that the
only known different version was a K-tel rerecording. I have no idea what you
are mixing up and didn't try to guess.

There you go, Bruce. My side of the recap.