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1 16th July 22:43
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HOWEDY kilikini,

Ain't no such thing.

Right. Rejecting your dog's bonding
attempts will make him INSECURE
and he'll LICK MOORE.


You can E***TINGUISH that habit in
WON day. Maybe just a few instances.


Well then, you'd need to learn HOWE
to instill confidence in him before you
can successfully break the habit or
he'll develop another OCD in it's place.


Yeah .Catch22. Welcome to The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Forum School Of HARD KNOCKS.

BWEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! NO.


Seems David is a slow learner.


That's on accHOWENT of he's AFRAID.


INDEED. You mean FEAR.


You mean FEAR, not "respect." Respect
is signified by having a NORMAL TRUSTING
relationship. like HOWE The Amazing Puppy
Wizard teaches HIS 100% CONSISTENLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Students.


You mean, the abuser.

You mean, "To discourage the licking
might be sending confusing signals to your dog."


Keep it, you imbecile.


OCD "Success In One Day," Puzzle.


It's much higher than our good doctor supposes.
It'll be another fif**** years before the scientists
understand the full ramifications of stress on behavior
and health.

"Things are beginning to get much worse day
by day and the vets seem unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusSmall.WMV"

THAT'S an OCD. It's similar to what professor
SCRUFF SHAKE'S little dog Maxie The Magnificent
FuriHOWESLY Obsessive Compulsive Masturbator
does when he misses his daily five miles of bicycle
chasing exercise to control his HYPERACTIVITY.

Yeah. Like janet boss's declawed kat attacking her
every time she punishes her dogs. The NEUROLOGIST
is treating her "seizure" activity with valium.

NO. The "problem" is caused by mishandling.

Stop mishandling the dog and use the non force non
confrontational scientific and psychological
techniques taught in your FREE copy of my FREE
Wits' End Dog Training Method manual and you'll
break any behavior problem in a few minutes over
a couple of days, maybe less. Maybe INSTANTLY.

Subject: OCD "Success In One Day," Puzzle.

HOWEDY People,

Here's an account of a dog who'd been involved in a
traumatic HOWES invasion and is now Ooops! WAS
barking uncontrollably.

I'm countin on 100% success in two days. Care to stake
your life, career, and reputation that I won't cure this
OCD behavior BEFORE three days are up???


NOPE. That's the problem!

YOU GOT TO SAY IT EVERY TIME, or it don't work....

Is THAT training? NOPE...

Training is supposed to control the behavior automatically,
as you like it. Too much, too little, no problem. Just train the
pup to respond as you'd prefer.

You'd prefer her not to bark, follow the technique
and there'll be no more barking. But telling her to STOP,
is only perpetuating your NEEDING to tell her "enough."

Don't improvise on the technique, because "just telling
her ENOUGH" is NOT in the method, and WILL cause
anxiety about the situation and put you at odds with
your pup.

Use distraction and praise till the behavior is extinguished
instead of stopping the behavior by forced control, i.e.,
"enough." Even though you're not saying it in a scolding
way, you're still arguing with your dog.


Praise first, tell her it's O.K., and then interrupt further
barking
with distraction and praise, calling her as a default should the
distraction / praise fail, and then RELEASE her to attempt
another bark if that's her desire, so you may break that attempt
using distract/praise till the behavior is properly extinguished.

That way you can train her to only bark enough to alert you
when something disturbs her. Then you can train her to
not bark at all but to come get you to say there's sumpthin up...


Praise first, then tell her it's friends, more praise, next
bark distract / praise and LET HER WORK THROUGH
the problem till it's extinguished and then generalize it
in other areas. When she looks like she's about to bark
but hasn't YET, PRAISE THAT and prepare to interrupt
her next bark following the VARIABLE distraction and praise technique.


EZ. Same same. Every thing is same same. If you can't
envision the sameness of a problem, give me a holler
and we'll look at it from every angle till we see HOWE'S
best to deal with it. You're better off to momentarily avoid
or even ignore a problem RATHER than jump into an issue
you're not prepared to PROPERLY EXTINGUISH. That's
HOWE bad habits and OCD's are caused. Like this one.


Relax. You're walkin down your own street, every thing
is O.K. friends and you're not going to pull back on her
lead to force control, you'll continue as you desire and
simply interrupt any inappropriate action or thought with
distract/praise for 5-15 seconds.


No problem. The OBJECTIVE of training is to have the
behaviors you desire and extinguish those you don't.
The techniques will break the behaviors as best they
can, but some behaviors are going to always be
restimulated by the outside sounds or the kat trying
to get her goat.

Just follow the routine and every behavior will come
into control as she learns to not need to respond to
every sound and every temptation the kat offers.
Should take a couple of days.

Not for long. So long as you don't get frustrated and holler
SHUDDUP! That'll cause her anxiety and you're back in
the jackpot again. Follow the technique and in one or
two nites you should be cuttin Zzzzz's right through.

But that may require a couple nites for you to make
a sound distraction and praise, and then if she barks
again, you'll probably need to SILENTLY get up and
go to where you're able to present the sound
distraction from opposite of that of the last one from
your bed.

If you're in a small bedroom you might be able to
snap your fingers on one side of the bed and then
the other, depending on the layout. Like say the
window is at the foot of the bed and you dog is
at your feet standing there 12' away. You might
be able to reach over and snap your fingers
from alternate sides of the bed and be all set.


If my dogs are chewing or scratching or even panting
too loudly, I can distract and praise them quietly enough
not to disturb the Mrs.

NO PROBLEM. Distract and praise every anxious thought
or behavior. Notice her breathing. If she's huffing and puffing
that's anxiety, distract and praise till it's extinguished and
she'll sleep. If it takes you fifty times tonite, break each
symptom of anxiety using the techniques and you'll be DONE by tomorrow nite.

She probably feels safe there cause she's got the
jump on an intruder. Work my methods and she'll
feel safe trusting your judgement. Correcting her
has DIMINISHED her confidence in your ability
to PROTECT the HOWES because in her mind
you're not aware enough to know there's somethin
spookey out there!

Teach her to understand REAL spooks from phantasms.


Right. Pay her and she's done!

Hyper-vigilence,

Yup follow the techniques to extinguish any inappropriate
behaviors, feelings, thoughts etc. I've got other techniques
and guaranteed sure fire cures for this and all behaviors,
but this is the starting point for you. Get your handling
techniques up to par and your dog will have no problems
because you won't be creating any stress. Crating is
a major problem for this sort of issue so DON'T be crating
him to calm him down cause it'll likely backfire.


I dunno. Should be DONE by tomorrow nite if you
can do all of the exercises in part 1 of your manual.
That'll insure you've got all the confidence issues
straightened out through the Family Leadership Exercise
and the come command as a conditioned reflex.

Is that soon enough for you? If not, I can put the Elves
on it for you but they could be flighty if I disturb them
unnecessarily. Just ask me if you have difficulty with the methods.


Because he's POWERFUL. You're defenseless. Also, if
he's more stern with her than you are, it will cause her
much insecurity and that's got to be dealt with or she'll
always be overstimulated by his 'proper handling.' It
doesn't take much repression to cause major anxiety
problems.

Tellin a dog not to bark or ignoring when he's scared is
repressive and causes much anxiety. You can't
command a crying baby to go back to sleep, you
check and reassure him and set him down when
he's ready to catch some Zzzz's.


torture.

No problem. Give this till tomorrow nite and call me
if you can't sleep and ask me to tell you HOWE COME
you can't get your dog to shut up!!!


That's another reason we don't respond as our 'common sense'
might tell us to. Most of my training methods are CONTRAWISE,
to quote a soon to be famous ****-ytic behaviorist who recommends
scruff shaking and is comfortable with shock collars if YOU are.

THAT'S an ANXIETY RELIEF mechanism from...repressing her barking.


You COULD rather easily teach her to shove the toy into
her own mouth each time she thinks of barking. Should
be able to do that in about ten minutes, given the set up.


Naaah. You don't need me for ideas. I'll help you through
the basics, and then you'll use your ideas to make your
dog naturally want to do every thing you ask. Just ask
if you need any help or really really run out of ideas.
Sometimes I think for a couple days about a problem
before figuring out all the ramifications of everything
and come up with a set up or lesson plan to extinguish the behavior.


As stated. You'll get the basics down, and then you'll
follow the technique, and most of the problems will
be done by tomorrow nite. If you have a special
concern just back up and look at it from the big
picture and don't focus on the SYMPTOM.

Although it's not often necessary to go into deep
worry about the cause of a problem, sometimes
if you got a pain in the butt it might help to stand
up and remove the tack from your seat instead
of taking a pain killer.

For behaviors that don't resolve quickly using
appropriate methods we can be pretty sure it's
a physical problem or a consistent source of stress.

Try to figure out the stressor or physical cause,
and then you'll be able to break the anxiety.

In this case the barking is not cause by the noises,
it's caused by lack of confidence in you, complicated
by the strong persona of the Mr., giving her false
messages. IOW, if Mr. was an omnipotent leader,
he'd be able to control the noises when he's not
there to take charge.

That's what we tell the dog when we force control.

My pleasure. I'm looking forward to updating it soon.

Excellent.

My pleasure. Just ask if you need any help. Keep me
posted. I expect to hear from you in two or three days
sayin he's 100% cured.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
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2 16th July 22:43
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HOWEDY kilikini,

You like that part.

The dog is INSECURE.

And THEN discourage him.


Didn't your dog just attack a visitor in your HOWES?

That's on accHOWENT of you abused him.

HOWEver, that's just The Amazing Puppy
Wizards two cents worth.


No problem. Keep it, The Amazing Puppy
Wizard has taken care of it for ya.


Better get back to working that stay command.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

HOWEDY Steve & Erin,
"Steve & Erin" <saoeer@comcast.net> wrote in message news:7Knoc.76711$Ik.5528063@attbi_s53...

Yeah. That's BONDING behavior.


Did you NHOWE?


You mean you IGNORE her when
she attempts to BOND with you.

RIGHT! Cause you're trying to punish
and intimidate your dog for BONDING attempts.


Yeah. Perhaps you should go "EEEK" and
turn away and ignore and tie IT to a wall
in the other room for ten seconds or ten
minutes depending on HOWE your LUCK
is runnin and not let IT know you're not
payin IT no attention as you tie IT up?


Could last till you murder your dog.


Well, evidently she hasn't learned the "NO!"
command:

Here's research professor of ****-ytic behaviorISM
at UofWI marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
"NO!" into ITS face for five seconds and lock IT in a
box for ten minutes contemplation" dermer:

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," dermer.

Oh, bye the bye, The Amazing Puppy
Wizard SEZ "DECENT PEOPLE DO
NOT POST HERE abHOWETS."
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) > <"Terri"@cyberhighway


Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by John
Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog
into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that
hide behind fake names are more honest than people thatuse their
real names.

Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders and
amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.)
are the equal or better than those that have studied
and lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no
idea, and I don't really care.


I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll never know.

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.


Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

====================

Hello People,

Robert Crim was a former Gang Of Thugs Member
and hated me as much as the rest of our Thugs do.
Robert was a long time friend and prominent contributor
to rpdb, till Jerry came along and WIZED him up.

And then they attacked him too. He learned the hard
way and no longer posts to his former pals because
it's just too painful knowing his pals would rather HURT
and KILL their dogs than to admit that JERRY is RIGHT.
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3 18th July 06:51
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HOWEDY David,

Ain't they all.

No such thing.

Right. Telling him not to submissively bond
is going to increase his anxiHOWESNESS
and insecurity and may cause other OCD
behaviors. Like this:

"I posted this to rec.pets.dogs.health without
too much success. Things are beginning to
get much worse day by day and the vets seem
unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusSmall.WMV"

THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES.


That'll trigger his visual oral reflex
and cause him to lick even if he
wasn't thinkin of lickin.


We can fix that NEARLY INSTANTLY and
FOR FREE if you care enough to work The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method.

Catch 22.

IOW, what you're doin makes him less
secure and MOORE NEEDY. THAT'S
HOWE COME he's DOIN the lickin in the first place.


INDEEDY.

THAT'S HOWE COME HOWER DOG
LOVERS advise new readers to KILLFILE
The Amazing Puppy Wizard.

And THAT'S a GOOD thing, cause it INDICTES
and PROVES them to be lying dog abusing punk
thug cowards and active incurable long term
MENTAL PATIENTS.

Wouldn't you agree, David?


You've seen the advice you got here.
You think anyWON here abHOWETS
other than The Amazing Puppy Wizard
and HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
Students has the intellect to HOWEtwit the
cunning of the domestic puppy dog?


Here's Disciple Paulie:

From: Paul B (panders@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Licking
Date: 2002-06-14 06:21:30 PST
"Mark Robertson" <mrobert@cqc.com> wrote in message news:RTbO8.219$on3.100581@newsfeed.slurp.net...

I would suggest that the licking is the dog wanting
your or anyone elses attention. So give the dog the
attention it 's asking for.

Maybe it feels insecure and it's asking for your reassurance. An
easy way to stop the licking
and reassure your dog is to use sound distraction
and immediate praise.

When the dog licks click your fingers and
immediately praise thedog. The click distracts
the dogs thoughts and the praise gives the dog
the reassurance.

EASY. Any negative attitude on your part
only compounds the problem, the dog licks,
your reject it, so it licks more to try to make
amends and the cycle goes on and on and
the dog loses trust in you.

If you praise the dog anytime it comes to you
it won't need to lick you, it's already got what
it wants, your attention.

I use that technique to stop lots of behaviours,
even when the dogs start licking themselves,
click and praise, they just stop no problem no
anxiety and no more slurping.

Paul

See us at..... http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/paulbousie/index.htmlMessage
"The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWizard@earthlink.net> schreef inbericht newsLpzb.2640$Qd6.1560@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...

My dog (a 1 year old Yellow Lab) was biting his tail
at the root (Vet said his **** gland was blocked, and
was causing an itch).

After squeezing it, he still wouldn't stop biting his
tail. The vet advised a neck-funnel (don't know wat
you US-guy's call those) so he couldn't reach his butt.

I hate those things, i think they will drive a dog nuts.

I tried the wits end method. (difficult to read such a long
textfile if English is not your native language) Luckily this
is without all the "HOWE's" etc.so at least it's readable for
somebody like me.

The minute he started to bite i trew my key's
next to him on the floor, and praised him (he
stopped biting and looked up when he heard
the sound) I did this 7 times,

after that the tailbiting completely stopped.
Just give the wits end method a try.

One of the possible downloadlocations
is http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html

Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11 ----------------------------
"Paul B" <abcde@clear.net.nz> schreef in bericht news:3ff50d83@clear.net.nz...

The same thing worked with my lab licking/chewing
problem too. He had an itch due to blocked **** glands
and started chewing and licking his tail at the root.

After the glands were squeezed, and the itch was
gone he still wouldn't stop. (because the place he
chewed raw was itching)

After some training (roughly the same methode as
yours) he stopped.

--
Hennie van Dalen
http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/ --------------------------------------
"Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis***@chello.nl>
wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@amstwist00...

RTFM is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for
"Read The F***ing Manual" ;-) I used the manual
and it works very good!

But it is a long text to read (76 pages printed on
A4-size paper) My lab is 1year old now, and teaching
him something new takes about 30minutes (depending on what to
teach offcourse)

My other dog (a 7year old staffordshire terrier-mix) is a bit
slower in learning, but he is used to me calling him a "bad
dog"whenever he did something i didn't want him to do, or
it might be the age.

Sometimes it looks like Sam (the lab) WANTS to learn
something new: he wants me to bring along the can
filled with washers whenever we go for a walk. It is a
very "humane" way of teaching: the dog is allways a
"good dog", and never a "bad dog"

There is nu punishment or prong-collars involved.

For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without
beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog,
he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask
permission" first, and to my surprise it worked!

My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky for them),
maybe this helped too.

Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html

-- Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/


"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change, Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would
Not Obtain Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's And All Dogs, As Taught In Your FREE
Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual."

Disciple Paulie Writes:

I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them
they aregood dogs and they seem to follow me, once
I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from me, now I
only ever tell them they are good dogs and
they always are, always.

Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say
"good dog" sincerely at the end of the request and
I bet you'll find your dog thinking then responding
everytime.

A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies
to every aspect of the relationship with your dog.

Obedience and affection are not related, if they were
everyone would have obedient dogs.

Paul.

========================

Disciple Paulie Sez: "No One Understands How
Wits' EndTraining Really Works, They Assume
It's All Nicey Nicey And don't Realise It's A Very
Disciplined Method That Deals With Any Situation
And The Foundation Is Built On Trust And
Understanding."

Two HOWETA three Pauls PREFER NOT HURTIN
DOGS as The Puppy Wizard teaches in HIS FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.

Here's two Pauls:

Date: 5/22/03 11:24:35 PM Eastern
Daylight Time
From: p@cfl.rr.com
To: Witsenddog@aol.com

Well, let me tell you, your Wits' End
Dog Training Method works.

My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons
around the barbecue on the patio. I
used this system on four different occasions.

When she went out today, she looked
everywhere else but the barbecue.
Amazing, just amazing.

I will write to Amanda about the video.

I am really excited to learn more, and
understand. Maybe just a little reassurance
that I am going about it the right way.

Thanks again
Paul =============================

"Ted Rumple" <rumplemint@kalbar.net> wrote in message
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4 18th July 11:19
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HOWEDY kilikini,

Ain't no such thing.

Right. Rejecting your dog's bonding
attempts will make him INSECURE
and he'll LICK MOORE.


You can E***TINGUISH that habit in
WON day. Maybe just a few instances.


Well then, you'd need to learn HOWE
to instill confidence in him before you
can successfully break the habit or
he'll develop another OCD in it's place.


Yeah .Catch22. Welcome to The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Forum School Of HARD KNOCKS.

BWEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! NO.


Seems David is a slow learner.


That's on accHOWENT of he's AFRAID.


INDEED. You mean FEAR.


You mean FEAR, not "respect." Respect
is signified by having a NORMAL TRUSTING
relationship. like HOWE The Amazing Puppy
Wizard teaches HIS 100% CONSISTENLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Students.


You mean, the abuser.

You mean, "To discourage the licking
might be sending confusing signals to your dog."


Keep it, you imbecile.


OCD "Success In One Day," Puzzle.


It's much higher than our good doctor supposes.
It'll be another fif**** years before the scientists
understand the full ramifications of stress on behavior
and health.

"Things are beginning to get much worse day
by day and the vets seem unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusSmall.WMV"

THAT'S an OCD. It's similar to what professor
SCRUFF SHAKE'S little dog Maxie The Magnificent
FuriHOWESLY Obsessive Compulsive Masturbator
does when he misses his daily five miles of bicycle
chasing exercise to control his HYPERACTIVITY.

Yeah. Like janet boss's declawed kat attacking her
every time she punishes her dogs. The NEUROLOGIST
is treating her "seizure" activity with valium.

NO. The "problem" is caused by mishandling.

Stop mishandling the dog and use the non force non
confrontational scientific and psychological
techniques taught in your FREE copy of my FREE
Wits' End Dog Training Method manual and you'll
break any behavior problem in a few minutes over
a couple of days, maybe less. Maybe INSTANTLY.

Subject: OCD "Success In One Day," Puzzle.

HOWEDY People,

Here's an account of a dog who'd been involved in a
traumatic HOWES invasion and is now Ooops! WAS
barking uncontrollably.

I'm countin on 100% success in two days. Care to stake
your life, career, and reputation that I won't cure this
OCD behavior BEFORE three days are up???


NOPE. That's the problem!

YOU GOT TO SAY IT EVERY TIME, or it don't work....

Is THAT training? NOPE...

Training is supposed to control the behavior automatically,
as you like it. Too much, too little, no problem. Just train the
pup to respond as you'd prefer.

You'd prefer her not to bark, follow the technique
and there'll be no more barking. But telling her to STOP,
is only perpetuating your NEEDING to tell her "enough."

Don't improvise on the technique, because "just telling
her ENOUGH" is NOT in the method, and WILL cause
anxiety about the situation and put you at odds with
your pup.

Use distraction and praise till the behavior is extinguished
instead of stopping the behavior by forced control, i.e.,
"enough." Even though you're not saying it in a scolding
way, you're still arguing with your dog.


Praise first, tell her it's O.K., and then interrupt further
barking
with distraction and praise, calling her as a default should the
distraction / praise fail, and then RELEASE her to attempt
another bark if that's her desire, so you may break that attempt
using distract/praise till the behavior is properly extinguished.

That way you can train her to only bark enough to alert you
when something disturbs her. Then you can train her to
not bark at all but to come get you to say there's sumpthin up...


Praise first, then tell her it's friends, more praise, next
bark distract / praise and LET HER WORK THROUGH
the problem till it's extinguished and then generalize it
in other areas. When she looks like she's about to bark
but hasn't YET, PRAISE THAT and prepare to interrupt
her next bark following the VARIABLE distraction and praise technique.


EZ. Same same. Every thing is same same. If you can't
envision the sameness of a problem, give me a holler
and we'll look at it from every angle till we see HOWE'S
best to deal with it. You're better off to momentarily avoid
or even ignore a problem RATHER than jump into an issue
you're not prepared to PROPERLY EXTINGUISH. That's
HOWE bad habits and OCD's are caused. Like this one.


Relax. You're walkin down your own street, every thing
is O.K. friends and you're not going to pull back on her
lead to force control, you'll continue as you desire and
simply interrupt any inappropriate action or thought with
distract/praise for 5-15 seconds.


No problem. The OBJECTIVE of training is to have the
behaviors you desire and extinguish those you don't.
The techniques will break the behaviors as best they
can, but some behaviors are going to always be
restimulated by the outside sounds or the kat trying
to get her goat.

Just follow the routine and every behavior will come
into control as she learns to not need to respond to
every sound and every temptation the kat offers.
Should take a couple of days.

Not for long. So long as you don't get frustrated and holler
SHUDDUP! That'll cause her anxiety and you're back in
the jackpot again. Follow the technique and in one or
two nites you should be cuttin Zzzzz's right through.

But that may require a couple nites for you to make
a sound distraction and praise, and then if she barks
again, you'll probably need to SILENTLY get up and
go to where you're able to present the sound
distraction from opposite of that of the last one from
your bed.

If you're in a small bedroom you might be able to
snap your fingers on one side of the bed and then
the other, depending on the layout. Like say the
window is at the foot of the bed and you dog is
at your feet standing there 12' away. You might
be able to reach over and snap your fingers
from alternate sides of the bed and be all set.


If my dogs are chewing or scratching or even panting
too loudly, I can distract and praise them quietly enough
not to disturb the Mrs.

NO PROBLEM. Distract and praise every anxious thought
or behavior. Notice her breathing. If she's huffing and puffing
that's anxiety, distract and praise till it's extinguished and
she'll sleep. If it takes you fifty times tonite, break each
symptom of anxiety using the techniques and you'll be DONE by tomorrow nite.

She probably feels safe there cause she's got the
jump on an intruder. Work my methods and she'll
feel safe trusting your judgement. Correcting her
has DIMINISHED her confidence in your ability
to PROTECT the HOWES because in her mind
you're not aware enough to know there's somethin
spookey out there!

Teach her to understand REAL spooks from phantasms.


Right. Pay her and she's done!

Hyper-vigilence,

Yup follow the techniques to extinguish any inappropriate
behaviors, feelings, thoughts etc. I've got other techniques
and guaranteed sure fire cures for this and all behaviors,
but this is the starting point for you. Get your handling
techniques up to par and your dog will have no problems
because you won't be creating any stress. Crating is
a major problem for this sort of issue so DON'T be crating
him to calm him down cause it'll likely backfire.


I dunno. Should be DONE by tomorrow nite if you
can do all of the exercises in part 1 of your manual.
That'll insure you've got all the confidence issues
straightened out through the Family Leadership Exercise
and the come command as a conditioned reflex.

Is that soon enough for you? If not, I can put the Elves
on it for you but they could be flighty if I disturb them
unnecessarily. Just ask me if you have difficulty with the methods.


Because he's POWERFUL. You're defenseless. Also, if
he's more stern with her than you are, it will cause her
much insecurity and that's got to be dealt with or she'll
always be overstimulated by his 'proper handling.' It
doesn't take much repression to cause major anxiety
problems.

Tellin a dog not to bark or ignoring when he's scared is
repressive and causes much anxiety. You can't
command a crying baby to go back to sleep, you
check and reassure him and set him down when
he's ready to catch some Zzzz's.


torture.

No problem. Give this till tomorrow nite and call me
if you can't sleep and ask me to tell you HOWE COME
you can't get your dog to shut up!!!


That's another reason we don't respond as our 'common sense'
might tell us to. Most of my training methods are CONTRAWISE,
to quote a soon to be famous ****-ytic behaviorist who recommends
scruff shaking and is comfortable with shock collars if YOU are.

THAT'S an ANXIETY RELIEF mechanism from...repressing her barking.


You COULD rather easily teach her to shove the toy into
her own mouth each time she thinks of barking. Should
be able to do that in about ten minutes, given the set up.


Naaah. You don't need me for ideas. I'll help you through
the basics, and then you'll use your ideas to make your
dog naturally want to do every thing you ask. Just ask
if you need any help or really really run out of ideas.
Sometimes I think for a couple days about a problem
before figuring out all the ramifications of everything
and come up with a set up or lesson plan to extinguish the behavior.


As stated. You'll get the basics down, and then you'll
follow the technique, and most of the problems will
be done by tomorrow nite. If you have a special
concern just back up and look at it from the big
picture and don't focus on the SYMPTOM.

Although it's not often necessary to go into deep
worry about the cause of a problem, sometimes
if you got a pain in the butt it might help to stand
up and remove the tack from your seat instead
of taking a pain killer.

For behaviors that don't resolve quickly using
appropriate methods we can be pretty sure it's
a physical problem or a consistent source of stress.

Try to figure out the stressor or physical cause,
and then you'll be able to break the anxiety.

In this case the barking is not cause by the noises,
it's caused by lack of confidence in you, complicated
by the strong persona of the Mr., giving her false
messages. IOW, if Mr. was an omnipotent leader,
he'd be able to control the noises when he's not
there to take charge.

That's what we tell the dog when we force control.

My pleasure. I'm looking forward to updating it soon.

Excellent.

My pleasure. Just ask if you need any help. Keep me
posted. I expect to hear from you in two or three days
sayin he's 100% cured.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
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HOWEDY kilikini,

You like that part.

The dog is INSECURE.

And THEN discourage him.


Didn't your dog just attack a visitor in your HOWES?

That's on accHOWENT of you abused him.

HOWEver, that's just The Amazing Puppy
Wizards two cents worth.


No problem. Keep it, The Amazing Puppy
Wizard has taken care of it for ya.


Better get back to working that stay command.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

HOWEDY Steve & Erin,
"Steve & Erin" <saoeer@comcast.net> wrote in message news:7Knoc.76711$Ik.5528063@attbi_s53...

Yeah. That's BONDING behavior.


Did you NHOWE?


You mean you IGNORE her when
she attempts to BOND with you.

RIGHT! Cause you're trying to punish
and intimidate your dog for BONDING attempts.


Yeah. Perhaps you should go "EEEK" and
turn away and ignore and tie IT to a wall
in the other room for ten seconds or ten
minutes depending on HOWE your LUCK
is runnin and not let IT know you're not
payin IT no attention as you tie IT up?


Could last till you murder your dog.


Well, evidently she hasn't learned the "NO!"
command:

Here's research professor of ****-ytic behaviorISM
at UofWI marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
"NO!" into ITS face for five seconds and lock IT in a
box for ten minutes contemplation" dermer:

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," dermer.

Oh, bye the bye, The Amazing Puppy
Wizard SEZ "DECENT PEOPLE DO
NOT POST HERE abHOWETS."
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) > <"Terri"@cyberhighway


Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs
since I freely admit to having read and, I hope,
understood enough of the manual and it's counterparts by John
Fisher and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant barrage
of really infantile crap at the hands of supposedly
adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the
nagging idea that if people like them had been posting
earlier, maybe we would not have had to hold the head
of a really magnificent animal in our arms while he was
given the needle and having to hug him and wait until he
gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog
into good behavior. Naive is believing that people that
hide behind fake names are more honest than people thatuse their
real names.

Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders and
amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.)
are the equal or better than those that have studied
and lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing
that people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are
going to just go away because you people act like fools.

Why do you act like fools? I really have no
idea, and I don't really care.


I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and
take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and
testing. You would never believe the results, so you'll never know.

I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve,
eh? As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.


Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)

====================

Hello People,

Robert Crim was a former Gang Of Thugs Member
and hated me as much as the rest of our Thugs do.
Robert was a long time friend and prominent contributor
to rpdb, till Jerry came along and WIZED him up.

And then they attacked him too. He learned the hard
way and no longer posts to his former pals because
it's just too painful knowing his pals would rather HURT
and KILL their dogs than to admit that JERRY is RIGHT.
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HOWEDY David,

Ain't they all.

No such thing.

Right. Telling him not to submissively bond
is going to increase his anxiHOWESNESS
and insecurity and may cause other OCD
behaviors. Like this:

"I posted this to rec.pets.dogs.health without
too much success. Things are beginning to
get much worse day by day and the vets seem
unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusSmall.WMV"

THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES.


That'll trigger his visual oral reflex
and cause him to lick even if he
wasn't thinkin of lickin.


We can fix that NEARLY INSTANTLY and
FOR FREE if you care enough to work The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method.

Catch 22.

IOW, what you're doin makes him less
secure and MOORE NEEDY. THAT'S
HOWE COME he's DOIN the lickin in the first place.


INDEEDY.

THAT'S HOWE COME HOWER DOG
LOVERS advise new readers to KILLFILE
The Amazing Puppy Wizard.

And THAT'S a GOOD thing, cause it INDICTES
and PROVES them to be lying dog abusing punk
thug cowards and active incurable long term
MENTAL PATIENTS.

Wouldn't you agree, David?


You've seen the advice you got here.
You think anyWON here abHOWETS
other than The Amazing Puppy Wizard
and HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
Students has the intellect to HOWEtwit the
cunning of the domestic puppy dog?


Here's Disciple Paulie:

From: Paul B (panders@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Licking
Date: 2002-06-14 06:21:30 PST
"Mark Robertson" <mrobert@cqc.com> wrote in message news:RTbO8.219$on3.100581@newsfeed.slurp.net...

I would suggest that the licking is the dog wanting
your or anyone elses attention. So give the dog the
attention it 's asking for.

Maybe it feels insecure and it's asking for your reassurance. An
easy way to stop the licking
and reassure your dog is to use sound distraction
and immediate praise.

When the dog licks click your fingers and
immediately praise thedog. The click distracts
the dogs thoughts and the praise gives the dog
the reassurance.

EASY. Any negative attitude on your part
only compounds the problem, the dog licks,
your reject it, so it licks more to try to make
amends and the cycle goes on and on and
the dog loses trust in you.

If you praise the dog anytime it comes to you
it won't need to lick you, it's already got what
it wants, your attention.

I use that technique to stop lots of behaviours,
even when the dogs start licking themselves,
click and praise, they just stop no problem no
anxiety and no more slurping.

Paul

See us at..... http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/paulbousie/index.htmlMessage
"The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWizard@earthlink.net> schreef inbericht newsLpzb.2640$Qd6.1560@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...

My dog (a 1 year old Yellow Lab) was biting his tail
at the root (Vet said his **** gland was blocked, and
was causing an itch).

After squeezing it, he still wouldn't stop biting his
tail. The vet advised a neck-funnel (don't know wat
you US-guy's call those) so he couldn't reach his butt.

I hate those things, i think they will drive a dog nuts.

I tried the wits end method. (difficult to read such a long
textfile if English is not your native language) Luckily this
is without all the "HOWE's" etc.so at least it's readable for
somebody like me.

The minute he started to bite i trew my key's
next to him on the floor, and praised him (he
stopped biting and looked up when he heard
the sound) I did this 7 times,

after that the tailbiting completely stopped.
Just give the wits end method a try.

One of the possible downloadlocations
is http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html

Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11 ----------------------------
"Paul B" <abcde@clear.net.nz> schreef in bericht news:3ff50d83@clear.net.nz...

The same thing worked with my lab licking/chewing
problem too. He had an itch due to blocked **** glands
and started chewing and licking his tail at the root.

After the glands were squeezed, and the itch was
gone he still wouldn't stop. (because the place he
chewed raw was itching)

After some training (roughly the same methode as
yours) he stopped.

--
Hennie van Dalen
http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/ --------------------------------------
"Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis***@chello.nl>
wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@amstwist00...

RTFM is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for
"Read The F***ing Manual" ;-) I used the manual
and it works very good!

But it is a long text to read (76 pages printed on
A4-size paper) My lab is 1year old now, and teaching
him something new takes about 30minutes (depending on what to
teach offcourse)

My other dog (a 7year old staffordshire terrier-mix) is a bit
slower in learning, but he is used to me calling him a "bad
dog"whenever he did something i didn't want him to do, or
it might be the age.

Sometimes it looks like Sam (the lab) WANTS to learn
something new: he wants me to bring along the can
filled with washers whenever we go for a walk. It is a
very "humane" way of teaching: the dog is allways a
"good dog", and never a "bad dog"

There is nu punishment or prong-collars involved.

For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without
beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog,
he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask
permission" first, and to my surprise it worked!

My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky for them),
maybe this helped too.

Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html

-- Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/


"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change, Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would
Not Obtain Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's And All Dogs, As Taught In Your FREE
Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual."

Disciple Paulie Writes:

I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them
they aregood dogs and they seem to follow me, once
I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from me, now I
only ever tell them they are good dogs and
they always are, always.

Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say
"good dog" sincerely at the end of the request and
I bet you'll find your dog thinking then responding
everytime.

A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies
to every aspect of the relationship with your dog.

Obedience and affection are not related, if they were
everyone would have obedient dogs.

Paul.

========================

Disciple Paulie Sez: "No One Understands How
Wits' EndTraining Really Works, They Assume
It's All Nicey Nicey And don't Realise It's A Very
Disciplined Method That Deals With Any Situation
And The Foundation Is Built On Trust And
Understanding."

Two HOWETA three Pauls PREFER NOT HURTIN
DOGS as The Puppy Wizard teaches in HIS FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.

Here's two Pauls:

Date: 5/22/03 11:24:35 PM Eastern
Daylight Time
From: p@cfl.rr.com
To: Witsenddog@aol.com

Well, let me tell you, your Wits' End
Dog Training Method works.

My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons
around the barbecue on the patio. I
used this system on four different occasions.

When she went out today, she looked
everywhere else but the barbecue.
Amazing, just amazing.

I will write to Amanda about the video.

I am really excited to learn more, and
understand. Maybe just a little reassurance
that I am going about it the right way.

Thanks again
Paul =============================

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