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1 21st October 19:52
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HOWEDY marie,

We got some E***PERT SAR and tracking people
unlike the obedience trainers who couldn't tell you
HOWE to train your dog not to C-HOWENTER SURF.

REMEMBER?

They told you to SHOCK your dog.

Perhaps they FORGOT the dogs who'd attacked
people on accHOWENT of gettin shocked?


Hence the name.

Yeah. But even when you do see BH's bein
worked their performance ain't no better on
accHOWENT of HOWE they're trained.

A dog is a dog. HOWE COME the SAR dogs
in the Chandra Levy case couldn't FIND the
bones in the park, even given a MAP; HOWE
COME the SAR dogs in the Elizabeth Smart
case (at least WON was a BH) DIDN'T FIND
the victim despite being within human hearing
range of the K-9 search party; and HOWE
COME the BODY DOGS in the Laura Hatching
case COULDN'T FIND the body in the dump
they KNEW she was in?


Don't you think a decaying human body is
gonna stink better than any grocery store,
restaurant or family GARBAGE?

HOWE COME these dogs FAILED to make their EZ finds?

On accHOWENT of HOWE they was trained.


There's no reason.

Ask lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn. She's got
LOTS of SAR E***PERIENCE with BH's.

If you look closely you'll see they're on pronged
spiked pinch and slip choke collars and gettin bribed.

Yeah. But don't think of it like that. Dogs noses
don't have to work at distinguishing scents any
MOORE than you would a perfume.

Might intensify it.


Not a WIZE idea. The scent will ride the
surface of the water like it was ice skating.


You can train a dog for all scents.


lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn can tell you
all abHOWET that, seein as she runs the
Left Coast SAR Operations Center NHOWE
that her SELECTIVELY BRED HAND PICKED
SAR dog JIVE is in early RETIREMENT.


Yeah. You're tryin to EMBARRASS your
pals who told you to shock your dog to
break her of C-HOWENTER SURFIN.
REMEMBER? BWEEEEAAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

Yeah. lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn got
some marvelHOWES SAR tails.


Well, we got a E***PERT SAR trainer who
really does have a SAR dog who really does
work SAR sites, unlike your mentally ill pal
lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn:


From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-20 15:22:52 PST

From: Lynn K. (javagsd@yahoo.com)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-20 03:06:20 PST
"Alpha" <david@davidthedogman.com> wrote in
message news:<40f8cda3$0$15058$61c65585@uq-127creek-rea der-

That a fact Lynn?

How would you Lynn solve a dog who is lean on
drift while blind running to a target?

You use jerry's manual and apply the concepts
that are universal to correction.

Your a twitt Lynn.

He needs an editor but the raw data works.

Mike

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash
on and pass it through the crate door.
Attach a line to it. When he barks, use the
line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark
collar.

Lynn K.

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST


It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction
technique. Works like a charm. My dogs get
distracted easy from their jobs
ie, retrieving or training to find lost
people, oh did I mention that I am a Search
and Rescue Team Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and
don't know where people get that Jerry copied
others work as I have NEVER come across his
methods before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems
one at at time as they arose. I used to try
and train to the way I wanted them but this is
backward, you train out the problems leaving
what you want left over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the
first dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd
party trainer as they were not performing
well. The VAST majority of working dog
trainers are aggressive in their actions with
the dogs. I tried it and it didn't
work and guess what I was at my "Whits End"
then someone I new turned me onto Jerry and
the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's
manual and all have had great results.
Starting puppies out on the distraction
technique is especially good because
they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night
home following Jerrys advice we ditched the
crate and put the pup on the floor beside the
bed and after 2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF
THAT DOG FOR 6 HRS! first night,
that has never happened in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that
simple.

Mike

From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Should I put the Puppy Wizard in my
killfile? Date: 2003-12-04 08:50:03 PST
"chris christanis" <cchrista@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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Chris,

The wizard is a great source of training information.
I have used his ideas and they do indeed work.

The people who flame him have either never tried his
training approach or don't care enough to.

That being said he is not PC and pisses a lot of
people off thus he gets bad press. If you can live
with that then he has a lot of good to say.

He has all dogs best interest at heart.

Nuff said.

Mike

From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-16 15:15:01 PST


Funny, I found almost none based on non evasive
protocol in EVERY bookstore
I go into.

Prove his whole manual is lifted or even a part.

His method is the first of its kind I have heard of in a do***ent.


Huh? I think his core philosophy is clear enough, get
on the dogs level and treat them with respect and they
will perform for you. WTF is a training arc? Is that
something all dog owners should know?

I used his methods to stop several out of control dogs
of mine and friends/family permanently (I guess thats
as long run as you get huh).

What it boils down to is Jerry's manual needs
rewriting and an editor no question. But the million
dollar question is DOES IT WORK?

My answer is YES!! better than any other
method I have ever tried.

You're better off going to the original authors.

Who are they and where do I get their FREE! books?

I am not a Jerry Howe groupy and don't spend much time
supporting him, but I do check up time to time on some
NG's to see how his method is being recieved.

I don't know Jerry or get paid by Jerry, all I know is
what his FREE method has done for me and my dogs.

I don't judge anything by its cover, Jerry and his
manual are no different.

Mike
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2 21st October 19:52
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HOWEDY diddler,

That so, diddler? You think the breed is HOWE
COME you can train SOME dogs, didder?


That's a load of crap, diddler. You're a lying sack of crap.


Yeah. Any dog but yours and alphalpha sweeney
and lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn's dogs.

That's reassuring. Can't trust them Krauts.

That so, diddler?

You mean, of the breeds that CAN be TRAINED?

That's usually NOT the case.


OR a dead domestic short hair kat you've
murdered and left for fox bait in your leg
hold / strangle noose traps.

Did you make a find, diddler?


Well, you done good, diddler.


You trained your dog to track machine oil, diddler?

Or did the gun have blood on it?


But the dimes didn't have blood or machine oil on them.
Perhaps they just had the stench of dead domestic short
haired kitty kats you murdered and left for the maggots?


Or a dime retriever dog?


That so, diddler? Dogs track all the time.
They must waste a lotta energy.


Not quite, diddler. The dog only alerts on the
specific smell he's been asked to find. The
others are IRRELEVENT. The dog DOES
NOT "ELIMINATE" NUTHIN, diddler. Just
like them dimes your dog is so good at
findin, he don't ELIMINATE pennies and
nickels, he only searches for them dimes. BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

Is THAT HOWE COME the SAR dogs in the Chandra
Levy and Elizabeth Smart and Laur Hacking cases
couldn't make their finds, diddler?

PERHAPS they'd of made their finds if the dogs
was searchin for pennys in the victims eyelids?


That so, diddler?


BWEEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

That's on accHOWENT of the dHOWEbletalkin
dog abusing mentally ill FRAUDS who handle them.


You're a dog abusing mental case, diddler.

You can't post here abHOWETS nodoGgamenedMOORE
on accHOWENT of you're a lying dog abusing mental case:


From: diddy (diddy@diddy.net)
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK

Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST

I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
horses and called him to help me find it. I would
do the same for threatening my dog.

My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
trash up and down our road for years making an
unbelievable mess.

When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
cheered. Animal control had never been able in
years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)


From: diddy (diddy@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: cats : Crating/Caging: What constitutes abuse?
Date: 2002-08-23 09:18:08 PST Lyn wrote:

Here it would be abuse. If you like your cat you keep it
home. I run a state authorized and monitored nuisance
animal trapline.

This morning there was a cat in a snare. Ordinarily,
an animal caught in a snare can be released unharmed.
One of the animals I am targeting is coyotes (and the
complaint was that coyotes were killing area cats)

Duh.. If your cats are becoming lunch for wild animals,
to me .. It makes sense to keep your cats in where they
can't become lunch.. whatever.

Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It leaped,
and tangled itself, and most certainly strangulated it's
intestines. It had the snare pulled tight down to the
diameter of a dime (just large enough to encircle the
spine) around the waist area.

This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to extricate this cat
was exceedingly difficult, not to mention dangerous. Because
I feared damage to the intestines and death of the gut, I
imagined this cat was not likely to survive.

It would have been much simpler to dispatch the unfortunate
cat and take out the dead body. Instead, this cat wore a
collar. it deserved a chance, and the owner deserved closure.
(no id on the collar) .

It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be taken to
the vet for examination. I will probably never know if this
particular cat survives the experience or not.

People in the area were aware that trapping was being done and
apparently still let their cats run free, b oth endangered by
the traps and by the coyotes being targeted that are causing a
problem with their cat population.

Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not have tried
to release this hostile cat. Releasing it may not have been a
kindness, but then... cats weren't supposed to be attracted to
this type of trap, in this position, and then they weren't
supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this situation.
If you like your pet, you keep them home.
HOWEDY diddler,
"diddy" <diddy@nospam.diddy.net> wrote in message news:Xns9554DA8F98950danny@216.196.97.142...


diddy wrote:

I certainly was NOT going to keep him, Nor was
I going to throw him away. I was going to go the
distance and get him back home (we fixed some
other problems while he was here) He's now a
happy and great dog, although I wasn't so fond
of him when he first came, and although we grew
close, the whole experience was not among my
fondest memories, until the end.

I needed to redirect his energies. He used escape for
entertainment. Once I gave him very many jobs to do,
and taught him LOTS of positive job skills to redirect
his energies. Once he found positive alternatives, he
finally forgot his negative behaviors which were severely
entrenched by the time I got him.

The first 6 months were awful for both of us.
-------------------------------------------------

All the "awful"-ness was caused by diddy. Just as all
the awfulness of the blood coming out of Reka's rectum
was caused by diddy and her INSANE need to prevent
her dog with "getting away" with anything (such as telling
diddy she was deathly ill).

Only she led you to believe that she was the hero. Kind2dogs wrote:


diddy wrote:

I think 4 hours or so, I had put him in a supposedly
"Secure" place, while I had to leave. When I got
home, he had trashed my house. From then on,
when I left, he got put in the horse stall.

He trashed my horse stall.

He then got a new horse stall, wore a E-collar,
I electrified the perimeter of the stall and we
were finally able to contain him while we worked
on his escape problems.

Once he learned that I was more determined to
defeat him, he finally subdued. But escaping, to
him was a game.

Both of us had a throughly miserable time during
the stand off. The dog is actually now a very good
citizen. He just had to meet someone more determined,
and stubborn and willing to go the distance to do what it
took, before he would stop.

Like I said, I thought he and I were going
to grow old together.

I am not going to go into exactly where we
went before we got that accomplished.

Let's just say it was "ugly"

------------------------------

From: diddy
(diddy@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet ownership.

I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes, Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.

To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will not
look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.

I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs, But mom
and dad now have a house cat, and she has never been
harmed by any of the dogs. Danny is there all the time,
unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.

"We are what we do."
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3 21st October 19:54
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SAR Dog Search For Hacking Victim

HOWEDY People,

The Amazing Puppy Wizard has E***PLAINED
HOWE COME SAR dogs FAIL to SAR in the saga
of lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn's FAILED SAR
dog, JIVE.

Ain't it reassuring to hear the SAR dog team leader
in Salt Lake City Utah, the SAME SAR dog team
leader E***PERT who's dogs was within HEARING
DISTANCE from Elizabeth Smart AND COULDN'T FIND
her, MAKE E***CUSES for NOT being able to FIND
a DEAD BODY in a KNOWN vicinity of a GARBAGE
DUMP, JUST LIKE HOWE the SAR dogs in D.C.
couldn't FIND Chandra Levy's bones in the park
DESPITE havin a MAP to a known vicinity.

E***CUSES range from BABY DIAPERS, restaurant
refuse and methane as CONfHOWENDING to scent
dogs despite that a DECAYING HUMAN BODY STINKS
LIKE NO OTHER GARBAGE.

BWEEEEHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

THAT'S WHERE YOUR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOIN!
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4 25th October 04:28
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HOWEDY marie,

We got some E***PERT SAR and tracking people
unlike the obedience trainers who couldn't tell you
HOWE to train your dog not to C-HOWENTER SURF.

REMEMBER?

They told you to SHOCK your dog.

Perhaps they FORGOT the dogs who'd attacked
people on accHOWENT of gettin shocked?


Hence the name.

Yeah. But even when you do see BH's bein
worked their performance ain't no better on
accHOWENT of HOWE they're trained.

A dog is a dog. HOWE COME the SAR dogs
in the Chandra Levy case couldn't FIND the
bones in the park, even given a MAP; HOWE
COME the SAR dogs in the Elizabeth Smart
case (at least WON was a BH) DIDN'T FIND
the victim despite being within human hearing
range of the K-9 search party; and HOWE
COME the BODY DOGS in the Laura Hatching
case COULDN'T FIND the body in the dump
they KNEW she was in?


Don't you think a decaying human body is
gonna stink better than any grocery store,
restaurant or family GARBAGE?

HOWE COME these dogs FAILED to make their EZ finds?

On accHOWENT of HOWE they was trained.


There's no reason.

Ask lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn. She's got
LOTS of SAR E***PERIENCE with BH's.

If you look closely you'll see they're on pronged
spiked pinch and slip choke collars and gettin bribed.

Yeah. But don't think of it like that. Dogs noses
don't have to work at distinguishing scents any
MOORE than you would a perfume.

Might intensify it.


Not a WIZE idea. The scent will ride the
surface of the water like it was ice skating.


You can train a dog for all scents.


lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn can tell you
all abHOWET that, seein as she runs the
Left Coast SAR Operations Center NHOWE
that her SELECTIVELY BRED HAND PICKED
SAR dog JIVE is in early RETIREMENT.


Yeah. You're tryin to EMBARRASS your
pals who told you to shock your dog to
break her of C-HOWENTER SURFIN.
REMEMBER? BWEEEEAAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

Yeah. lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn got
some marvelHOWES SAR tails.


Well, we got a E***PERT SAR trainer who
really does have a SAR dog who really does
work SAR sites, unlike your mentally ill pal
lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn:


From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-20 15:22:52 PST

From: Lynn K. (javagsd@yahoo.com)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-20 03:06:20 PST
"Alpha" <david@davidthedogman.com> wrote in
message news:<40f8cda3$0$15058$61c65585@uq-127creek-rea der-

That a fact Lynn?

How would you Lynn solve a dog who is lean on
drift while blind running to a target?

You use jerry's manual and apply the concepts
that are universal to correction.

Your a twitt Lynn.

He needs an editor but the raw data works.

Mike

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash
on and pass it through the crate door.
Attach a line to it. When he barks, use the
line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark
collar.

Lynn K.

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST


It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction
technique. Works like a charm. My dogs get
distracted easy from their jobs
ie, retrieving or training to find lost
people, oh did I mention that I am a Search
and Rescue Team Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and
don't know where people get that Jerry copied
others work as I have NEVER come across his
methods before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems
one at at time as they arose. I used to try
and train to the way I wanted them but this is
backward, you train out the problems leaving
what you want left over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the
first dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd
party trainer as they were not performing
well. The VAST majority of working dog
trainers are aggressive in their actions with
the dogs. I tried it and it didn't
work and guess what I was at my "Whits End"
then someone I new turned me onto Jerry and
the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's
manual and all have had great results.
Starting puppies out on the distraction
technique is especially good because
they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night
home following Jerrys advice we ditched the
crate and put the pup on the floor beside the
bed and after 2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF
THAT DOG FOR 6 HRS! first night,
that has never happened in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that
simple.

Mike

From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Should I put the Puppy Wizard in my
killfile? Date: 2003-12-04 08:50:03 PST
"chris christanis" <cchrista@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<uw0zb.179889$ZC4.176827@twister.nyroc.rr.com >...

Chris,

The wizard is a great source of training information.
I have used his ideas and they do indeed work.

The people who flame him have either never tried his
training approach or don't care enough to.

That being said he is not PC and pisses a lot of
people off thus he gets bad press. If you can live
with that then he has a lot of good to say.

He has all dogs best interest at heart.

Nuff said.

Mike

From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-16 15:15:01 PST


Funny, I found almost none based on non evasive
protocol in EVERY bookstore
I go into.

Prove his whole manual is lifted or even a part.

His method is the first of its kind I have heard of in a do***ent.


Huh? I think his core philosophy is clear enough, get
on the dogs level and treat them with respect and they
will perform for you. WTF is a training arc? Is that
something all dog owners should know?

I used his methods to stop several out of control dogs
of mine and friends/family permanently (I guess thats
as long run as you get huh).

What it boils down to is Jerry's manual needs
rewriting and an editor no question. But the million
dollar question is DOES IT WORK?

My answer is YES!! better than any other
method I have ever tried.

You're better off going to the original authors.

Who are they and where do I get their FREE! books?

I am not a Jerry Howe groupy and don't spend much time
supporting him, but I do check up time to time on some
NG's to see how his method is being recieved.

I don't know Jerry or get paid by Jerry, all I know is
what his FREE method has done for me and my dogs.

I don't judge anything by its cover, Jerry and his
manual are no different.

Mike
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5 25th October 04:28
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HOWEDY diddler,

That so, diddler? You think the breed is HOWE
COME you can train SOME dogs, didder?


That's a load of crap, diddler. You're a lying sack of crap.


Yeah. Any dog but yours and alphalpha sweeney
and lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn's dogs.

That's reassuring. Can't trust them Krauts.

That so, diddler?

You mean, of the breeds that CAN be TRAINED?

That's usually NOT the case.


OR a dead domestic short hair kat you've
murdered and left for fox bait in your leg
hold / strangle noose traps.

Did you make a find, diddler?


Well, you done good, diddler.


You trained your dog to track machine oil, diddler?

Or did the gun have blood on it?


But the dimes didn't have blood or machine oil on them.
Perhaps they just had the stench of dead domestic short
haired kitty kats you murdered and left for the maggots?


Or a dime retriever dog?


That so, diddler? Dogs track all the time.
They must waste a lotta energy.


Not quite, diddler. The dog only alerts on the
specific smell he's been asked to find. The
others are IRRELEVENT. The dog DOES
NOT "ELIMINATE" NUTHIN, diddler. Just
like them dimes your dog is so good at
findin, he don't ELIMINATE pennies and
nickels, he only searches for them dimes. BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

Is THAT HOWE COME the SAR dogs in the Chandra
Levy and Elizabeth Smart and Laur Hacking cases
couldn't make their finds, diddler?

PERHAPS they'd of made their finds if the dogs
was searchin for pennys in the victims eyelids?


That so, diddler?


BWEEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

That's on accHOWENT of the dHOWEbletalkin
dog abusing mentally ill FRAUDS who handle them.


You're a dog abusing mental case, diddler.

You can't post here abHOWETS nodoGgamenedMOORE
on accHOWENT of you're a lying dog abusing mental case:


From: diddy (diddy@diddy.net)
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK

Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST

I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
horses and called him to help me find it. I would
do the same for threatening my dog.

My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
trash up and down our road for years making an
unbelievable mess.

When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
cheered. Animal control had never been able in
years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)


From: diddy (diddy@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: cats : Crating/Caging: What constitutes abuse?
Date: 2002-08-23 09:18:08 PST Lyn wrote:

Here it would be abuse. If you like your cat you keep it
home. I run a state authorized and monitored nuisance
animal trapline.

This morning there was a cat in a snare. Ordinarily,
an animal caught in a snare can be released unharmed.
One of the animals I am targeting is coyotes (and the
complaint was that coyotes were killing area cats)

Duh.. If your cats are becoming lunch for wild animals,
to me .. It makes sense to keep your cats in where they
can't become lunch.. whatever.

Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It leaped,
and tangled itself, and most certainly strangulated it's
intestines. It had the snare pulled tight down to the
diameter of a dime (just large enough to encircle the
spine) around the waist area.

This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to extricate this cat
was exceedingly difficult, not to mention dangerous. Because
I feared damage to the intestines and death of the gut, I
imagined this cat was not likely to survive.

It would have been much simpler to dispatch the unfortunate
cat and take out the dead body. Instead, this cat wore a
collar. it deserved a chance, and the owner deserved closure.
(no id on the collar) .

It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be taken to
the vet for examination. I will probably never know if this
particular cat survives the experience or not.

People in the area were aware that trapping was being done and
apparently still let their cats run free, b oth endangered by
the traps and by the coyotes being targeted that are causing a
problem with their cat population.

Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not have tried
to release this hostile cat. Releasing it may not have been a
kindness, but then... cats weren't supposed to be attracted to
this type of trap, in this position, and then they weren't
supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this situation.
If you like your pet, you keep them home.
HOWEDY diddler,
"diddy" <diddy@nospam.diddy.net> wrote in message news:Xns9554DA8F98950danny@216.196.97.142...


diddy wrote:

I certainly was NOT going to keep him, Nor was
I going to throw him away. I was going to go the
distance and get him back home (we fixed some
other problems while he was here) He's now a
happy and great dog, although I wasn't so fond
of him when he first came, and although we grew
close, the whole experience was not among my
fondest memories, until the end.

I needed to redirect his energies. He used escape for
entertainment. Once I gave him very many jobs to do,
and taught him LOTS of positive job skills to redirect
his energies. Once he found positive alternatives, he
finally forgot his negative behaviors which were severely
entrenched by the time I got him.

The first 6 months were awful for both of us.
-------------------------------------------------

All the "awful"-ness was caused by diddy. Just as all
the awfulness of the blood coming out of Reka's rectum
was caused by diddy and her INSANE need to prevent
her dog with "getting away" with anything (such as telling
diddy she was deathly ill).

Only she led you to believe that she was the hero. Kind2dogs wrote:


diddy wrote:

I think 4 hours or so, I had put him in a supposedly
"Secure" place, while I had to leave. When I got
home, he had trashed my house. From then on,
when I left, he got put in the horse stall.

He trashed my horse stall.

He then got a new horse stall, wore a E-collar,
I electrified the perimeter of the stall and we
were finally able to contain him while we worked
on his escape problems.

Once he learned that I was more determined to
defeat him, he finally subdued. But escaping, to
him was a game.

Both of us had a throughly miserable time during
the stand off. The dog is actually now a very good
citizen. He just had to meet someone more determined,
and stubborn and willing to go the distance to do what it
took, before he would stop.

Like I said, I thought he and I were going
to grow old together.

I am not going to go into exactly where we
went before we got that accomplished.

Let's just say it was "ugly"

------------------------------

From: diddy
(diddy@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet ownership.

I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes, Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.

To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will not
look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.

I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs, But mom
and dad now have a house cat, and she has never been
harmed by any of the dogs. Danny is there all the time,
unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.

"We are what we do."
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HOWEDY People,

The Amazing Puppy Wizard has E***PLAINED
HOWE COME SAR dogs FAIL to SAR in the saga
of lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn's FAILED SAR
dog, JIVE.

Ain't it reassuring to hear the SAR dog team leader
in Salt Lake City Utah, the SAME SAR dog team
leader E***PERT who's dogs was within HEARING
DISTANCE from Elizabeth Smart AND COULDN'T FIND
her, MAKE E***CUSES for NOT being able to FIND
a DEAD BODY in a KNOWN vicinity of a GARBAGE
DUMP, JUST LIKE HOWE the SAR dogs in D.C.
couldn't FIND Chandra Levy's bones in the park
DESPITE havin a MAP to a known vicinity.

E***CUSES range from BABY DIAPERS, restaurant
refuse and methane as CONfHOWENDING to scent
dogs despite that a DECAYING HUMAN BODY STINKS
LIKE NO OTHER GARBAGE.

BWEEEEHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

THAT'S WHERE YOUR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOIN!
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HOWEDY marie,

We got some E***PERT SAR and tracking people
unlike the obedience trainers who couldn't tell you
HOWE to train your dog not to C-HOWENTER SURF.

REMEMBER?

They told you to SHOCK your dog.

Perhaps they FORGOT the dogs who'd attacked
people on accHOWENT of gettin shocked?


Hence the name.

Yeah. But even when you do see BH's bein
worked their performance ain't no better on
accHOWENT of HOWE they're trained.

A dog is a dog. HOWE COME the SAR dogs
in the Chandra Levy case couldn't FIND the
bones in the park, even given a MAP; HOWE
COME the SAR dogs in the Elizabeth Smart
case (at least WON was a BH) DIDN'T FIND
the victim despite being within human hearing
range of the K-9 search party; and HOWE
COME the BODY DOGS in the Laura Hatching
case COULDN'T FIND the body in the dump
they KNEW she was in?


Don't you think a decaying human body is
gonna stink better than any grocery store,
restaurant or family GARBAGE?

HOWE COME these dogs FAILED to make their EZ finds?

On accHOWENT of HOWE they was trained.


There's no reason.

Ask lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn. She's got
LOTS of SAR E***PERIENCE with BH's.

If you look closely you'll see they're on pronged
spiked pinch and slip choke collars and gettin bribed.

Yeah. But don't think of it like that. Dogs noses
don't have to work at distinguishing scents any
MOORE than you would a perfume.

Might intensify it.


Not a WIZE idea. The scent will ride the
surface of the water like it was ice skating.


You can train a dog for all scents.


lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn can tell you
all abHOWET that, seein as she runs the
Left Coast SAR Operations Center NHOWE
that her SELECTIVELY BRED HAND PICKED
SAR dog JIVE is in early RETIREMENT.


Yeah. You're tryin to EMBARRASS your
pals who told you to shock your dog to
break her of C-HOWENTER SURFIN.
REMEMBER? BWEEEEAAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

Yeah. lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn got
some marvelHOWES SAR tails.


Well, we got a E***PERT SAR trainer who
really does have a SAR dog who really does
work SAR sites, unlike your mentally ill pal
lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn:


From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-20 15:22:52 PST

From: Lynn K. (javagsd@yahoo.com)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-20 03:06:20 PST
"Alpha" <david@davidthedogman.com> wrote in
message news:<40f8cda3$0$15058$61c65585@uq-127creek-rea der-

That a fact Lynn?

How would you Lynn solve a dog who is lean on
drift while blind running to a target?

You use jerry's manual and apply the concepts
that are universal to correction.

Your a twitt Lynn.

He needs an editor but the raw data works.

Mike

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash
on and pass it through the crate door.
Attach a line to it. When he barks, use the
line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark
collar.

Lynn K.

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST


It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction
technique. Works like a charm. My dogs get
distracted easy from their jobs
ie, retrieving or training to find lost
people, oh did I mention that I am a Search
and Rescue Team Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and
don't know where people get that Jerry copied
others work as I have NEVER come across his
methods before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems
one at at time as they arose. I used to try
and train to the way I wanted them but this is
backward, you train out the problems leaving
what you want left over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the
first dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd
party trainer as they were not performing
well. The VAST majority of working dog
trainers are aggressive in their actions with
the dogs. I tried it and it didn't
work and guess what I was at my "Whits End"
then someone I new turned me onto Jerry and
the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's
manual and all have had great results.
Starting puppies out on the distraction
technique is especially good because
they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night
home following Jerrys advice we ditched the
crate and put the pup on the floor beside the
bed and after 2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF
THAT DOG FOR 6 HRS! first night,
that has never happened in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that
simple.

Mike

From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Should I put the Puppy Wizard in my
killfile? Date: 2003-12-04 08:50:03 PST
"chris christanis" <cchrista@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<uw0zb.179889$ZC4.176827@twister.nyroc.rr.com >...

Chris,

The wizard is a great source of training information.
I have used his ideas and they do indeed work.

The people who flame him have either never tried his
training approach or don't care enough to.

That being said he is not PC and pisses a lot of
people off thus he gets bad press. If you can live
with that then he has a lot of good to say.

He has all dogs best interest at heart.

Nuff said.

Mike

From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-16 15:15:01 PST


Funny, I found almost none based on non evasive
protocol in EVERY bookstore
I go into.

Prove his whole manual is lifted or even a part.

His method is the first of its kind I have heard of in a do***ent.


Huh? I think his core philosophy is clear enough, get
on the dogs level and treat them with respect and they
will perform for you. WTF is a training arc? Is that
something all dog owners should know?

I used his methods to stop several out of control dogs
of mine and friends/family permanently (I guess thats
as long run as you get huh).

What it boils down to is Jerry's manual needs
rewriting and an editor no question. But the million
dollar question is DOES IT WORK?

My answer is YES!! better than any other
method I have ever tried.

You're better off going to the original authors.

Who are they and where do I get their FREE! books?

I am not a Jerry Howe groupy and don't spend much time
supporting him, but I do check up time to time on some
NG's to see how his method is being recieved.

I don't know Jerry or get paid by Jerry, all I know is
what his FREE method has done for me and my dogs.

I don't judge anything by its cover, Jerry and his
manual are no different.

Mike
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HOWEDY diddler,

That so, diddler? You think the breed is HOWE
COME you can train SOME dogs, didder?


That's a load of crap, diddler. You're a lying sack of crap.


Yeah. Any dog but yours and alphalpha sweeney
and lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn's dogs.

That's reassuring. Can't trust them Krauts.

That so, diddler?

You mean, of the breeds that CAN be TRAINED?

That's usually NOT the case.


OR a dead domestic short hair kat you've
murdered and left for fox bait in your leg
hold / strangle noose traps.

Did you make a find, diddler?


Well, you done good, diddler.


You trained your dog to track machine oil, diddler?

Or did the gun have blood on it?


But the dimes didn't have blood or machine oil on them.
Perhaps they just had the stench of dead domestic short
haired kitty kats you murdered and left for the maggots?


Or a dime retriever dog?


That so, diddler? Dogs track all the time.
They must waste a lotta energy.


Not quite, diddler. The dog only alerts on the
specific smell he's been asked to find. The
others are IRRELEVENT. The dog DOES
NOT "ELIMINATE" NUTHIN, diddler. Just
like them dimes your dog is so good at
findin, he don't ELIMINATE pennies and
nickels, he only searches for them dimes. BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

Is THAT HOWE COME the SAR dogs in the Chandra
Levy and Elizabeth Smart and Laur Hacking cases
couldn't make their finds, diddler?

PERHAPS they'd of made their finds if the dogs
was searchin for pennys in the victims eyelids?


That so, diddler?


BWEEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

That's on accHOWENT of the dHOWEbletalkin
dog abusing mentally ill FRAUDS who handle them.


You're a dog abusing mental case, diddler.

You can't post here abHOWETS nodoGgamenedMOORE
on accHOWENT of you're a lying dog abusing mental case:


From: diddy (diddy@diddy.net)
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK

Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST

I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
horses and called him to help me find it. I would
do the same for threatening my dog.

My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
trash up and down our road for years making an
unbelievable mess.

When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
cheered. Animal control had never been able in
years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)


From: diddy (diddy@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: cats : Crating/Caging: What constitutes abuse?
Date: 2002-08-23 09:18:08 PST Lyn wrote:

Here it would be abuse. If you like your cat you keep it
home. I run a state authorized and monitored nuisance
animal trapline.

This morning there was a cat in a snare. Ordinarily,
an animal caught in a snare can be released unharmed.
One of the animals I am targeting is coyotes (and the
complaint was that coyotes were killing area cats)

Duh.. If your cats are becoming lunch for wild animals,
to me .. It makes sense to keep your cats in where they
can't become lunch.. whatever.

Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It leaped,
and tangled itself, and most certainly strangulated it's
intestines. It had the snare pulled tight down to the
diameter of a dime (just large enough to encircle the
spine) around the waist area.

This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to extricate this cat
was exceedingly difficult, not to mention dangerous. Because
I feared damage to the intestines and death of the gut, I
imagined this cat was not likely to survive.

It would have been much simpler to dispatch the unfortunate
cat and take out the dead body. Instead, this cat wore a
collar. it deserved a chance, and the owner deserved closure.
(no id on the collar) .

It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be taken to
the vet for examination. I will probably never know if this
particular cat survives the experience or not.

People in the area were aware that trapping was being done and
apparently still let their cats run free, b oth endangered by
the traps and by the coyotes being targeted that are causing a
problem with their cat population.

Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not have tried
to release this hostile cat. Releasing it may not have been a
kindness, but then... cats weren't supposed to be attracted to
this type of trap, in this position, and then they weren't
supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this situation.
If you like your pet, you keep them home.
HOWEDY diddler,
"diddy" <diddy@nospam.diddy.net> wrote in message news:Xns9554DA8F98950danny@216.196.97.142...


diddy wrote:

I certainly was NOT going to keep him, Nor was
I going to throw him away. I was going to go the
distance and get him back home (we fixed some
other problems while he was here) He's now a
happy and great dog, although I wasn't so fond
of him when he first came, and although we grew
close, the whole experience was not among my
fondest memories, until the end.

I needed to redirect his energies. He used escape for
entertainment. Once I gave him very many jobs to do,
and taught him LOTS of positive job skills to redirect
his energies. Once he found positive alternatives, he
finally forgot his negative behaviors which were severely
entrenched by the time I got him.

The first 6 months were awful for both of us.
-------------------------------------------------

All the "awful"-ness was caused by diddy. Just as all
the awfulness of the blood coming out of Reka's rectum
was caused by diddy and her INSANE need to prevent
her dog with "getting away" with anything (such as telling
diddy she was deathly ill).

Only she led you to believe that she was the hero. Kind2dogs wrote:


diddy wrote:

I think 4 hours or so, I had put him in a supposedly
"Secure" place, while I had to leave. When I got
home, he had trashed my house. From then on,
when I left, he got put in the horse stall.

He trashed my horse stall.

He then got a new horse stall, wore a E-collar,
I electrified the perimeter of the stall and we
were finally able to contain him while we worked
on his escape problems.

Once he learned that I was more determined to
defeat him, he finally subdued. But escaping, to
him was a game.

Both of us had a throughly miserable time during
the stand off. The dog is actually now a very good
citizen. He just had to meet someone more determined,
and stubborn and willing to go the distance to do what it
took, before he would stop.

Like I said, I thought he and I were going
to grow old together.

I am not going to go into exactly where we
went before we got that accomplished.

Let's just say it was "ugly"

------------------------------

From: diddy
(diddy@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet ownership.

I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes, Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.

To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will not
look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.

I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs, But mom
and dad now have a house cat, and she has never been
harmed by any of the dogs. Danny is there all the time,
unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.

"We are what we do."
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HOWEDY People,

The Amazing Puppy Wizard has E***PLAINED
HOWE COME SAR dogs FAIL to SAR in the saga
of lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn's FAILED SAR
dog, JIVE.

Ain't it reassuring to hear the SAR dog team leader
in Salt Lake City Utah, the SAME SAR dog team
leader E***PERT who's dogs was within HEARING
DISTANCE from Elizabeth Smart AND COULDN'T FIND
her, MAKE E***CUSES for NOT being able to FIND
a DEAD BODY in a KNOWN vicinity of a GARBAGE
DUMP, JUST LIKE HOWE the SAR dogs in D.C.
couldn't FIND Chandra Levy's bones in the park
DESPITE havin a MAP to a known vicinity.

E***CUSES range from BABY DIAPERS, restaurant
refuse and methane as CONfHOWENDING to scent
dogs despite that a DECAYING HUMAN BODY STINKS
LIKE NO OTHER GARBAGE.

BWEEEEHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

THAT'S WHERE YOUR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOIN!
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HOWEDY marie,

We got some E***PERT SAR and tracking people
unlike the obedience trainers who couldn't tell you
HOWE to train your dog not to C-HOWENTER SURF.

REMEMBER?

They told you to SHOCK your dog.

Perhaps they FORGOT the dogs who'd attacked
people on accHOWENT of gettin shocked?


Hence the name.

Yeah. But even when you do see BH's bein
worked their performance ain't no better on
accHOWENT of HOWE they're trained.

A dog is a dog. HOWE COME the SAR dogs
in the Chandra Levy case couldn't FIND the
bones in the park, even given a MAP; HOWE
COME the SAR dogs in the Elizabeth Smart
case (at least WON was a BH) DIDN'T FIND
the victim despite being within human hearing
range of the K-9 search party; and HOWE
COME the BODY DOGS in the Laura Hatching
case COULDN'T FIND the body in the dump
they KNEW she was in?


Don't you think a decaying human body is
gonna stink better than any grocery store,
restaurant or family GARBAGE?

HOWE COME these dogs FAILED to make their EZ finds?

On accHOWENT of HOWE they was trained.


There's no reason.

Ask lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn. She's got
LOTS of SAR E***PERIENCE with BH's.

If you look closely you'll see they're on pronged
spiked pinch and slip choke collars and gettin bribed.

Yeah. But don't think of it like that. Dogs noses
don't have to work at distinguishing scents any
MOORE than you would a perfume.

Might intensify it.


Not a WIZE idea. The scent will ride the
surface of the water like it was ice skating.


You can train a dog for all scents.


lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn can tell you
all abHOWET that, seein as she runs the
Left Coast SAR Operations Center NHOWE
that her SELECTIVELY BRED HAND PICKED
SAR dog JIVE is in early RETIREMENT.


Yeah. You're tryin to EMBARRASS your
pals who told you to shock your dog to
break her of C-HOWENTER SURFIN.
REMEMBER? BWEEEEAAHAHAHAAAAA!!!

Yeah. lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn got
some marvelHOWES SAR tails.


Well, we got a E***PERT SAR trainer who
really does have a SAR dog who really does
work SAR sites, unlike your mentally ill pal
lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn:


From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-20 15:22:52 PST

From: Lynn K. (javagsd@yahoo.com)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-20 03:06:20 PST
"Alpha" <david@davidthedogman.com> wrote in
message news:<40f8cda3$0$15058$61c65585@uq-127creek-rea der-

That a fact Lynn?

How would you Lynn solve a dog who is lean on
drift while blind running to a target?

You use jerry's manual and apply the concepts
that are universal to correction.

Your a twitt Lynn.

He needs an editor but the raw data works.

Mike

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash
on and pass it through the crate door.
Attach a line to it. When he barks, use the
line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark
collar.

Lynn K.

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST


It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction
technique. Works like a charm. My dogs get
distracted easy from their jobs
ie, retrieving or training to find lost
people, oh did I mention that I am a Search
and Rescue Team Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and
don't know where people get that Jerry copied
others work as I have NEVER come across his
methods before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems
one at at time as they arose. I used to try
and train to the way I wanted them but this is
backward, you train out the problems leaving
what you want left over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the
first dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd
party trainer as they were not performing
well. The VAST majority of working dog
trainers are aggressive in their actions with
the dogs. I tried it and it didn't
work and guess what I was at my "Whits End"
then someone I new turned me onto Jerry and
the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's
manual and all have had great results.
Starting puppies out on the distraction
technique is especially good because
they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night
home following Jerrys advice we ditched the
crate and put the pup on the floor beside the
bed and after 2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF
THAT DOG FOR 6 HRS! first night,
that has never happened in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that
simple.

Mike

From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Should I put the Puppy Wizard in my
killfile? Date: 2003-12-04 08:50:03 PST
"chris christanis" <cchrista@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<uw0zb.179889$ZC4.176827@twister.nyroc.rr.com >...

Chris,

The wizard is a great source of training information.
I have used his ideas and they do indeed work.

The people who flame him have either never tried his
training approach or don't care enough to.

That being said he is not PC and pisses a lot of
people off thus he gets bad press. If you can live
with that then he has a lot of good to say.

He has all dogs best interest at heart.

Nuff said.

Mike

From: Mike (m.biddisc@ns.sympatico.ca)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-16 15:15:01 PST


Funny, I found almost none based on non evasive
protocol in EVERY bookstore
I go into.

Prove his whole manual is lifted or even a part.

His method is the first of its kind I have heard of in a do***ent.


Huh? I think his core philosophy is clear enough, get
on the dogs level and treat them with respect and they
will perform for you. WTF is a training arc? Is that
something all dog owners should know?

I used his methods to stop several out of control dogs
of mine and friends/family permanently (I guess thats
as long run as you get huh).

What it boils down to is Jerry's manual needs
rewriting and an editor no question. But the million
dollar question is DOES IT WORK?

My answer is YES!! better than any other
method I have ever tried.

You're better off going to the original authors.

Who are they and where do I get their FREE! books?

I am not a Jerry Howe groupy and don't spend much time
supporting him, but I do check up time to time on some
NG's to see how his method is being recieved.

I don't know Jerry or get paid by Jerry, all I know is
what his FREE method has done for me and my dogs.

I don't judge anything by its cover, Jerry and his
manual are no different.

Mike
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