the puppy wizard

HOWEDY phyloe,

That so? AMAZING HOWE many dogs are RESCUED.


That's on accHOWENT of you bribe and punish your dogs.


Yeah. NoWON hits dogs for bein BAD. You
should tie them HOWET on the porch for
punishment. Or lock them in a box.


Yeah. Dream on.

---- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog!

Saw a dog today and "good boy-" worked along with calling him-
came the first time every time. Not even a sound out of him.

Think it is hard for him but he never even seemed to think
about going off-reacting.

The word come has no affect on him just the phrase-
-Sunshine come goodboy. ===================================

You never will, phyloe. You and your punk thug
coward mental case pals don't stand a chance
of HOWEtwitting the cunning of the domestic
puppy dog even after The Amazing Puppy Wizard
and all HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual Students told
you HOWE they done it EZ GENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY and for FREE, to boot.


BWEEEEEEEEHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA!!!

What do you want from your lying dog
abusing punk thug coward mental case
pals, phyloe? You lookin for a MIRACLE?


Pupperly handled well trained dogs NEVER LEAVE
their own terrortory withHOWET the family.


Tough break, eh phyloe?
----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: "Jerry Howe" <jhowe2@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Damned Family Leadership Exercise -
Re: Am I expecting to much

Hi Jerry,

When I talked to you on the phone to order to machine
for daughter's new pup, I told you that I had an older
Chessie. I rescued him at 9 years old and have had
him for 3 years.

It's funny, but I thought I'd try some of your book
training with him. Where I used to say "come" and
then say "good boy" when he obeyed, I have reversed
it with a "good boy" first.

It really does work.

He was very confused at first, wondering what he
had done to get the praise.

But it really gets the attention and distracts him from
whatever he may have going through his brain when
he hears it.

Dogs are funny, but people are too. Can't wait to get
the Doggy do Right, etc.

Thanks,
N =========


INDEEDY. It's time to do the only honorable thing left
to do under these cir***stances, for the good of the
RESCUE dogs, phyloe.

Hi, Jerry.

I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').

Best, ben ===================


Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h67d@corp.supernews.com

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using Jerry's
methods with our dog. We had the same problem as the
original poster has with Buzz. One day working with the
family pack exercise and practicing the recall command
with the family and she'll now go out with hubby and
daughter instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative things you
might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to try the method
and *judge the results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in... always
comes when called, not chewing stuff even if we leave
it laying around, "re"housebroken after long shelter stay,
walks perfectly on leash, doesn't try to steal food from
our plates or beg... probably a few more things I'm
forgetting to mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi
and don't wander. jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed. When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive and
nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous owners,
then she was in a shelter for months. They (most of them)
wanted to give up and kill her Now she's gained confidence
and trust with us. Last night was another big breakthrough
(in my eyes). She barked! Big deal, she barked just once
when she heard the front door. Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry or that
the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources. In my
opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and
leaves out the bad. Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry
personally. I've emailed him and instant messaged him. I have
not bought a "Doggy Do Right". He's offered help for free.)

Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy
http://www.crneckiy.com & http://tarot.crneckiy.com
E-mail & MSN Messenger: mick@crneckiy.com
AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227 ======================
"Greg M. Silverman" <gmsNOSPAM@no.umn.edu> wrote in message

Hey, Mr. Wizard, or Alchemist or whatever your alias
of the day is, have to say that our dog heels much
better than she did. This is after reading and
implementing the bit in your "Wits End" treatise.

And she's a royal nutter (but then again, aren't they all?).
Cheers! Greg-- --------------------


HOWEDY Professora Daniel and Sunshine!
"Linda" <llindaleedaniel@msn.com> wrote in message news:3c317fe4.0309151300.f27f01c@posting.google.co m...

We've missed you. Tried to send you some pics
the other day, but they didn't go through. <} : ~ ( >


Do tell, it's been ages since we've heard from you.

INDEEDY. Sez so in your FREE copy of The Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual. Don't it.


Good for you!

BWEAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

Took you WON brief session to get Sunshine
to come the first time, every time.

The Puppy Wizard can do NUTHIN withHOWET you.


Yeah, he is special, allrighty.

Yeah. The Puppy Wizard told you it was gonna be
EZ FAST and FREE to train Sunshine to relax and
naturally want to do every thing you ask.

Good for you!


Knowing HOWE to handle and train a dog withHOWET
fear force confrontation bribery or confinement means
we won't HAVE problem dogs.


INDEEDY. The Puppy Wizard will remain settin
right here stark ravin nekkid, till you come to HIM.

Lookin forward to your return to Florida for the winter.

----- Message -----
From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: FOREVER And A DAY! - Re: dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.


--------Original Post-----------
From: Linda
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Will try it today and post how well this system works.
We went to a dog class that I had enrolled in for
resocialization--getting him to not lunge and try to
attack every dog he sees, we were at the third class
and I forgot the Halti but he was relaxed and had no
problem with any of the seven dogs-

-in the past he would shake and after a little while
turn away from the dogs and look at the wall. Saturday
he wanted to play with the dogs--he actually pulled
toward the dogs- kinda jumped around like he use to do
before he became aggressive- when he got close to another
dog.

Teacher was impressed with him but thought it was from
her class--I didn't tell her anything different-she had
tried but it sure was not working.

Today on our walk a dog went by and he alerted but did
not move toward the dog and when I called him he actually
came with his tail wagging and forget about the dog.

I have told everyone I see about your dog training-
-all my friends and neighbors know I have been so worried
and frustrated with Sunshine's behavior-infact some would
turn around and go the other way so as not to get close to us.

If people knew how easy it could be to get a dog to come
and listen to you there would be a lot less dogs in shelters.

I know I didn't know what to do and was afraid I would have
to kill him if he bite someone even though I loved him so
much.

============================

Here's you, phyloe:

From: Phyloe (phyloe@hit.net)
Subject: Help! I want another bird
Newsgroups: alt.pets.parrots.****atiels
Date: 1999/11/07

Early in this year I lost my female 'Tiel. I have been
finding myself wanting to get another. I now have a
dog that is not bird friendly, she is a retired Greyhound
and they are trained to chase small animals.

I wouldwant my bird to be with me just as my last one
was but I like my dog to be with me also. I do not like
to have a pet and to have it "caged" so to speak.

My dog likes to be in the living room till bed time when
she goes to the garage. My bird was also with me in
the living room till bed time and I did not like to cage
her when I was home.

Now if I do get a bird either the dog or the bird will
have to be "put away" while the other is "out". Can
any one help me with this dilemma? I have a small
house so there is not room for a special bird room
and I hate to banish the dog to the garage.

HELP! I guess I really cannot get a bird can I?

Phyloe

------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------

From: Phyloe (phyloe@hit.net)
Subject: Re: An 80 Gram Sledgehammer!
Newsgroups: alt.pets.parrots.****atiels
Date: 2000/04/28

I never imagined how much I would like mine.

I had a Sun Conure and bought the 'tiel for company.

The Conure inhibited the 'tiel so she stayed in her cage
and would not trust me. I sold the Conure, they are very
loud and needy and bit me all the time for no reason!

After the Conure was gone the 'tiel blossomed!

She was like a 2 year old, testing me by going where
she knew she was not supposed to go. It got where all
I had to do was point at her and she would leave the
forbidden zones!

She knew!

I think she just liked to show me that
she COULD go there if she wanted to.

Later a dog killed my bird in a tragic freak
accident and I have not replaced her.

I do think 'tiels make as good a pet as a dog,
well except for the pooping machine part.

How can such a little animal make 5 times as
much poop as the amount of food they eat?

Phyloe

------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------

From: Phyloe (phyloe@hit.net)
Subject: Timid dog, HELP!
Date: 1999/03/08

I recently adopted a greyhound from the local race track.
This dog is extremely timid, so much so that when it meets
new people it runs away and shakes when approached.

Is there some hting I can give this dog to make it more social?

I have never seen a dog so fearful of everything, people,
other dogs, movement, etc. I need help!

Scott

From: Phyloe (phyloe@hit.net)
Subject: Re: Barking Date: 2000/04/25
"dll316" <> wrote in message


Punishment will help too. If the dog does not like
the back porch (or something similar) when it barks
and ignores your stop commands then a time out on
the porch for 15 minutes may help.

Barking = Porch time the dog will figure that out
especially if it likes to be with you.

Phyloe


From: Jerry Howe (jhowe@cfl.rr.com)
Subject: Re: Help, dog won't come when called
Date: 2001-01-29 06:07:22 PST Hello Dave,
"Dave Harsant" <d.harsant@telstra.com> wrote in message news:953f59$dr3$1@nnrp1.deja.com...

You mean I've been wasting my time for 38 years?


Only because this is my occupation, good buddy.
Maybe you can't train certain problems, but training
problem dogs is my job, so I expect that's why people
come to ME, instead of YOU for this kind of advice, huh?


Because this has been my job for 38 years, that's why.

This doesn't have anything to do with my Doggy Do
Right (and Kitty Will Too). The FREE Wits' End Dog
Training Method manual doesn't even mention Doggy
Do Right (and Kitty Will Too), just to make sure some
evil moron like YOU doesn't try to CONFUSE the issues.

We're talking about straight dog training here, no
gimmicks, nothing but INFORMATION..

YOU GOT ANY?

I do. And I've got information and advice that WORKS
on every dog behavior problem. What have YOU got?

NUTHIN.

Speak up.

Let's talk dog training.

Choke me with my own words. Leave my machine outta this.

Ask yourself "WHY DOESN'T JERRY
HURT DOGS TO TRAIN THEM?"

And then just answer "BECAUSE JERRY KNOWS
HOWE TO TRAIN DOGS WITHOUT HURTING THEM."

And THEN SAY OUT LOUD: "IGNORE JERRY, HE'S
MEAN TO DOG ABUSERS."

You can get all the information you need to PROPERLY
handle and train your dog using non force, non
confronatational, scientific and psychological
methods, in the Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
available for free at http://www.doggydoright.com

The Wits' End Dog Training Method manual is provided
compliments of the BIOSOUND Scientific Elves as an
alternative to Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will Too).

Your pal, Jerry "The Phony," Howe. j;~}

the puppy wizard

"zxcvbob" <zxcvbob@charter.net> wrote in message news:2ros7bF1cjmfpU1@uni-berlin.de...


<zxcvbob@charter.net>


So that way it'll be the DOG'S FAULT he shocked hisself.

Probably not.

It'll probably just piss them off and make
them attack your dog all the MOORE.

You shock your dog on accHOWENT of
you ain't intelligent enough to TRAIN him
despite four or MOORE of The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual Students tellin you
HOWE they done it EZ GENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY and FOR FREE, to boot...

EVEN FASTER than it took you to install
your SHOCK FENCE, dog abuser.


INDEEDY. THAT'S HOWE COME you try
to JUSTIFY the dog GETTIN BURNED by
sayin to yourself that he SAW the WIRE.


INDEEDY.

THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy
Wizard SEZ DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST HERE abHOWETS.


But you don't LIKE THAT, on accoHOWENT
of you PREFER to HURT and INTIMIDATE
your dog on accHOWENT of you're a MENTAL
CASE.

You got any other REASON for WANTING
to HURT and INTIMIDATE your dog, dog lover?

RIGHT. But you don't know HOWE to
TRAIN the dog to perimeter or you
wouldn't NEED to SHOCK him you
lying dog abusing coward.


Probably not if they want to come in.

It'll CONstantly remind the dog you're a dog
abusing mental case.

THAT'S ALL it will REMIND him.


You mean to only SHOCK the dog a LITTLE?

THAT'S INSANE.

FurtherMOORE, it's INCORRECT TRAININ
if you're GONNA HURT your dog you GOTTA
HURT HIM GOOD or you'll REINFORCE the
PROBLEM, dog lover.

So NOT HURTIN THE DOG ENOUGH is
IN FACT, CRUEL.

You got that, chochone?


Then it VIOLATES effective FORCE training methods.


Yeah. The Amazing Puppy Wizard HURTS
lying dog abusing punk thug cowards and
active long term incurtable MENTAL CASES
by QUOTING YOUR OWN WORDS.

Ain't that correct, booby?


It won't do no good so long as we got
PSYCHOPATHS who INSIST on replying
to The Amazing Puppy Wizard when HE
IDENTIFIES E***POSES and DISCREDITS
them as you just seen again, booby.


And you're a dog abusing punk thug coward mental case.


Yeah. THAT'S HOWE COME you're goin INSANE.


You HURT and INTIMIDATE your dog, booby.
You don't have the INTELLECT to HOWEtwit
the cunning of the domestic puppy dog even
after The Amazing Puppy Wizard and HIS
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Students told you
HOWE they done it themself EZ GENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY and FOR FREE, to boot.

You're a MENTAL CASE and The Amazing
Puppy Wizard has PROVEN IT RIGHT HERE
and NHOWE, eh booby?

RIGHT.

You was talkin through that hole in the back of
your yellow spine, booby. You're a dog abusing
blowhard coward mental case, and NHOWE
EVERY WON KNOWS. BWEEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!


Here's you HURTIN your own dog, booby:
"zxcvbob" <zxcvbob@charter.net> wrote in message news:2rp8liF1buhlrU1@uni-berlin.de...

BWEEEEEEEEAAJAJAJAJJAAJAAAA!!!

"misty" <Momisty@webtv.net wrote in message news:
16990-3CAB1F8C-1@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net...

I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's
not here with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her
loss.

I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how
you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea that my
using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not
wanting to stay home.

Up until I started using it my main concern had been keeping
my dogs in their own yard.

Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my concern
became how to keep them from running off for days on end.

I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the
anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g>
A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained,
doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all
the time.

IOW a great companion and friend.

Thanks Jerry! =====================
misty" <Momisty@webtv.net> wrote in message news:6946-3B6337A1-329@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net...


--------------------------------

From: Nevyn (greatdane@badmama.com.au)
Subject: Re: radio fence
Date: 2003-11-05 04:17:45 PST

Hi folks,

In my opinion the use of a radioshock fence is a waste of
time, effort or money. I can understand it if you a rich snob
who cares nothing about their dogs safey or behaviours.

At work I boundary train all the dogs to the bricked area
(Four kennels with 26 cages with 1 dog in each, 1 services
building and 2 catterys which is surrounded by scrubland to
the east and woodlands to the north and a lake to the west).

This works well, because then when people buy them the dogs
are easier to boundary train to a door or fence or yard.

However on a personal note, my two shelter mutts, who I
trained using the WITS END DOG MANUAL available at
http://www.doggydoright.com will not go past the back door, or the
back gate or the front gate without permission.

And it is nice, for when you are having a party, you can leave
your gates open for people, and your dogs won't be the least
concerned.

I find this better then spending your well earned money on a
piece of junk Why not use it to invest in a horse? Or a new
house? Make a nice aquarium? Build a nursery for a child?

Save your money. Train your dog. Please. -- Thankyou,
Nevyn

_________________________________


Nevyn E.D. Veterinary Nurse & Animal Trainer
greatdane@badmama.com.au
"You can judge a man's heart by his treatment
of animals"
__________________________________


From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaul_bousie@clear.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Fence Jumping

Date: 2000-09-29 04:33:37 PST

Been well experienced in dogs escaping from our
yard I know exactly the frustration you are going
through. Sam used to jump over the fence so I
made it higher then we got Roz and she went
under it, through it and climbed over it.

I've decided there are only 2 ways to stop the escaping,
1 is to have an escape proof fence, the other to train the
dogs not to want to escape.

I suppose a third method is to keep them
inside but I don't consider that a solution.

Making the fence escape proof can be almost impossible
if the dog is determined, to stop it climbing over as yours
is doing put an extension on top of the fence that angles
inwards at about 30-45 degrees. Never use chicken wire
as the dogs tear through that like paper.

The only training method to prevent this I can recall is
Jerry's technique, essentially it involves walking around the
perimeter of the fenced area with the dog and using sound
distractions and praise to teach the dog it's boundary.

I have had partial success with it (i.e. I have deterred Roz
from escaping from various points along the fence) but then
again I haven't really followed it through completely.

One last glimmer of hope, as the dog gets older it may
become more settled, Sam never escapes now although
he's quite capable of getting out, he 2.5 years old and
seemed to settle at about 2. So there you are, only 1.5
years of escaping left!!!

Paul.

-- Visit our homepage (updated 29 September!!!) and see the
dogs, cats and us at... (please refresh the pages often to
make sure you get the latest one!!!!) http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/paul_bousie/index.html "Noodlz"
<noodlz1@home.com> wrote in message
news:39D1E9D9.FE7F26B2@home.com...

=================

From Professora Linda Daniel and Sunshine:

"I Wrote To Purdue And Told Them Their Advice Did Not Work.
If I Had Not Found The Wits End Method I Know There Was No
Hope For Him And He Would Have Hurt Someone And Had To
Be Killed. I Wrote To Purdue And Told Them I Told Them Their
Advice Did Not Work. Sunshine's Still Acting Like A New Dog."

Sunshine is now 100% trustworthy off lead in public and is
about to enjoy doing THERAPY WORK with his nurse owner.
Professora Daniel and Sunshine are going to SUE Purdue
University and dra patricia mcconnel and their trainers for
MALPRACTICE, ANIMAL ABUSE, PUBIC ENDANGERMENT,
and FRAUD.

Everything we've been taught about dog behavior
is DEAD WRONG.

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
~ Mohandas Gandhi -- Adapted with permission from
his FREE copy of The Puppy Wizzzard's FREE Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual. <}TPW; ~ ) >

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is
ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third,
it is accepted as being self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY phyloe,


Only lying dog abusing mental cases post here abHOWETS.


Ever heard of a lock?


Your terrior runs HOWET on you on accHOWENT
of you're a dog abusing mental cases like the punk
thug cowards you're askin for advice.

You're a halfwit.


You've been posting here for years.


The weenie you got in your hand?

You're a dog abusing mental case like matty.


You're a dog abusing mental case like matty and his pals.


BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!


"Or, at the other end of the spectrum,
Rocky cowers, thinking I'm angry at
him - a reason I don't "yuk out" others'
dogs at agility trials or training.

--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.


From: Rocky (mbonner@sunada.com)
Subject: Re: Leg Humper
Date: 1999/09/14

Biosound@aol.com (Jerry Howe) wrote in
<37D698CF.405B0D2A@bellsouth.net>:

Jerry, I was appreciating your explanation
up until this last paragraph.

Why did you blow it? --Matt
"Rocky" <> wrote in message news:Xns92FEEC097E4AAaustralianshepherdca@130.133. 1.4...


"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME
The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33
Years Experience.

You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for
her coment above regarding her success with
The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy Separation
Anxiety / Bed Time Calming / Submissive
Urination Technique (STSA/BTC/SUT)?

Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z,
who commented that his bed time calming technique was quite similar?


"His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.


BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

Is that true, Marilyn?

Of course not~ but THIS IS:

"Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap,"
professora gingold.

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will
Seem Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe.
This Is A Normal Reaction The First Few Times
It Happens, But You'll Get Over It." mike duforth,
author: "Courteous Canine."

"I have heard advice stating that you should
pre-load your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work
as efficiently as possible. What does this mean?

When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first
time, spray one squirt directly into the dog's mouth
and walk away. The dog won't be too thrilled with
this but just ignore him and continue your normal
behavior." --Mike Dufort author of the zero selling
book "Courteous Canines" sinofabitch writes:

"Neatly," and "Smartly."


"sinofabitch" instead of sionnach.

BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!

That's INSANE. Ain't it.

"When you get bagged for lying you're MARKED
FOR LIFE," The Puppy Wizard's DADDY.

BWEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!


From: Mark Shaw (mshaw@bangnetcom.com)
Subject: Re: Fido-Shock
Date: 2002-04-10 14:12:18 PST
In article <gWLs8.203228$af7.101030@rwcrnsc53>,
"Coleman Brumley" <clbrumley@home.com> wrote:


If you're talking about the pet-grade hotwire system, I have
one. It's to keep boarded dogs out of my flowers.

I take it you're considering running the wire across the top
of the fence? I don't think I'd recommend that, although it
may be worth a try. Watch closely -- the one case where I saw
a hotwire used in this fashion caused the dog undue stress and
frustration, and he tried even harder to get over the fence.
So be prepared to take it down right away.

That was a Dane, though. With a Saint things might be
different.

--
Mark Shaw

culprit's dogs MURDERED her kat for
standin behind their SHOCK FENCE
just like HOWE liea's dog attacked
her only friend and tried to attack two
little kids for standin in her SHOCK ZONE:

From: culprit (culprit@flashmail.com)
Subject: Re: Video clip......."Nero" practicing bark alert,
while walking backwards
Date: 2004-06-05 18:53:50 PST
"micha el" <spam_yurself@spamyourmamma.com> wrote in message news:yIydnZpPsIzg6l_d4p2dnA@comcast.com...

"Tricia9999" <tricia9999@aol.com> wrote in message news:20021117101433.10365.00000067@mb-cg.aol.com...

BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!!

"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.

"I know this is a hard subject to bring up without starting the
whole cruelty thread again so I'll state my opinion once and
won't defend it further: any method can be cruel for some
dogs.

Even the slightest punishment was wrong for Cubbe at the
beginning, but w e'vecomealongwaysincethen.Shetrusts
us now as I mentioned in a recent post. Point is, she's been
rewarded for coming, but she's never been punished, even in
the mildest way, for not coming.

Is it time for that?

What might I look for to tell?"
"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshuler@comcast.net> wrote in message news:McYnb.45145$ao4.106231@attbi_s51...


"Things are beginning to get much worse day
by day and the vets seem unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusSmall.WMV"

THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES and
ASYLUM ESCAPEES.

BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!!

http://tinyurl.com/389al
In this video, the dog is constantly jerking his
head all around. I'm not SHORE why he's doing that.
If he's doing it because he is being shocked repeatedly
into getting onto that skateboard, then it is my
opinion that Fred Hassen is a dog abuser in the
extreme. As would anyone be, no matter how much
"experience" they had shocking dogs, nor how
nationally "respected" they are/were.

If, HOWEver, the dog is jerking his head all around
because he is happy and for no other reason, well,
then, never mind. I've just never seen this kind of
behavior from a dog before, so maybe Fred can
explain what would cause a dog to move his head
like that.

Here's a other: http://tinyurl.com/2v9oh
"J1Boss" <j1boss@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040324071828.07753.00000001@mb-m18.aol.com...

"sionnach" <rhyfelwr@msn.com> wrote in message news:c3qi15$2biuoh$1@ID-45033.news.uni-berlin.de...


An INSENSITIVE DOG???


THAT'S sumpthin to be PR-HOWED abHOWET, eh matty?

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.

Lynn K.

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer."

Lynn K.
---------------------------------


Paxil Princess psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."

"Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper
wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable
dogs may require you to progress to striking them more
sharply.

REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE DOG.

Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of
as force-fetching: the ear pinch.

Make the dog's need to stop the pinching so urgent that
resisting your will fades in importance.

but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to
escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch
the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth,
get out the shotshell.

Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the
collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the
dog will give in

With your hand on the collar and ear, say, 'fetch.'

Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick.

Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy.
You can press the dog's ear with a shotshell instead of your
thumb; Say 'fetch' while pressing the dummy against its lips
and pinching its ear," lying frosty dahl.


"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
every adoptable dog on intake. I frankly felt that the
effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.

Should I have refused to groom them?

Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."

Lynn K.


"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosmakos@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20 ginger57@my-deja.com wrote:


Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use. Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars. At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."

8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled).

If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.

This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."
Baghdad Bob <Baghdadbob> wrote in message
news:<04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@TeraNews>.. .

WORDS OF WISDOM
from our own Lynn Kosmakos
1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day
For Twenty Years

I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT
LITHIUM

"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-
depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50
mg of Zoloft every day.

I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to
learn more, while happily sharing pertinent
information I have learned. But if I were ever
to post such sh*t, I would hope that every other
reader of this group would be rightfully outraged."

"Community is an evolutionary thing that we
earn the right to participate in by observing
the easily understood rules and contributing
to in constructive ways."

Lynn K.

-----------------------------------------

"It wasn't that meds didn't work for her
- she wouldn't take them. I particularly remember
a comment she made about scarey side effects of
Lithium. Hardly. After 17 years on it, I think
I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of
any side effect is far less frightening than the
very real dangers of life without it."

Lynn K.
-----------------------------------------


LYNN K. and LOIS E, and a BiLateral, BiPolar
conversation on Mental problems. LYNN AND LOIS
Almost 50 years on mental illness medications combined -----------------------------------------


"It wasn't that meds didn't work for her
- she wouldn't take them. I particularly remember
a comment she made about scarey side effects of
Lithium. Hardly. After 17 years on it, I think
I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of
any side effect is far less frightening than the
very real dangers of life without it."

Lynn K.
-----------------------------------------


LYNN K. and the UNQUIET MIND

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosmakos@home.com)
Subject: Re: Where is Darlene?
Date: 1999/09/03 BoxHill wrote:

Yeah. It's interesting, but kind of
watered down for the mass market, if
you know what I mean. There's really
quite a lot of good work out there and
decent research. Thank God.

Lynn K.
---------------------------------------

MOTHER AND CHILD REUNION "KUCKOO!! CUCKOO!!!"
MOTHER (LOIS E.) 22 YEARS on TRICYCLICS, DAUGHTER BIPOLAR...

YOU DO THE MATH

"What's really terrific, is now days you can say proudly,
'I take anti-depressives'"

-------------------------------------

From: Gary & lois Edwards (garyl@bmi.net)
Subject: Re: Where is Darlene?
Date: 1999/09/02

BEEN ON TRICYCLICS FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS

"I don't take lithium, but I've been on trycyclics
for about 22 years. Been there, done that, have
the t-shirt to prove it. What's really terrific,
is now days you can say proudly,

"I take anti-depressives". Back when I started
taking them it was seen as something shameful.
If you cut your leg off, and were lying there with
a bleeding stump, you'd never let the word
depressed, pass your lips, or the doc's would say,
"You're depressed, on medication? Well, can't have
any pain meds.....you could become addicted."

The good old days. I actually had a Great Aunt who's
father locked her in her room back in the twenties
because she was simple. A shame that medication
probably would have helped her live a normal life.

No Denna, I was just saying with Darlene's
personality, she has a way of making grandiose
plans when at the top of her manic cycle....as
does my daughter. I wasn't saying that anyone
with problems could be counted on to be
irresponsible."

Lois E.
-------------------------------------

captain arthur haggerty SEZ: "A CHIN CHUCK"
Makes A ResoundingSound Distraction: "When
You Chuck The Dog The Sound Will Travel Up
The Mandible To The Ears And Give A Popping
Sound To The Dog."

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
Lynn K.

"An indelible impression can sometimes be made
by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration,
then leaving him tied by the mess he's made so you
can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish
him again for the same thing.

In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this
disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the
light spanking that some owners seem to think is
adequate punishment.

It will be better for your dog, as well as the house,
if you really pour it on him," wm koehler.


lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
Lynn K.


That's INSANE. Ain't it.

"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???

"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.

You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."

You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
is COURTEOUS?

"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
as possible. What does this mean?"

Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.

"When you bring home the Bitter Apple for
the first time, spray one squirt directly into
the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog
won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore
him and continue your normal behavior."

You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?

--Mike Dufort
author of the zero selling book
"Courteous Canines"

You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?

Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?

Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?

"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm
Over The Lab's Shoulder, Grabbed Her Opposite
Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her Throat
And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly Nipped Her Ear,"
sionnach.

Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...

And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."

"Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
you to progress to striking them more
sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
expert trainer, discoverer of cannibalism
in Labradors.

You think a E***PERT trainer got to BEAT
a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?

"Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.

Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies
HURT all their lives like HOWE HOWER dog
lovers PREFER to HURT THEIR DOGS?

"John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
rump with a training stick while holding him partially
off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
to the line and cast him back to the dummies."

The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.

We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...

terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."

You lying dog abusing mental cases can't post
here abHOWETS nodoGgamenedMOORE.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{) ; ~ ) >

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY the anti kathy,


You could train the dog not to bolt through the
door in a couple minutes, if you knew HOWE.


You could perimeter train the dogs in a
couple minutes, if you knew HOWE, it's
the same same as boltin through the
door or C-HOWENTER SURFIN or any other behavior problem.


Yeah. That'll happen when you choke and bribe dogs.

You mean BRIBE the dog.


The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ we don't
TRAIN dogs in their free area on accHOWENT
of it makes them ANGRY.


You're gonna train the dog to come for a cookie?


That's IDIOCY. You could train the dog to
reliably come EVERY time he's called in
just a few minutes using EFFECTIVE NON
PHYSICAL SCIENTIFIC CONditioning, if you knew HOWE.


Offering and withholding food bribes increases
anxiHOWESNESS and lowers the dog's regard
for the trainer's AUTHORITY and teaches GREED and MISTRUST.


Your dog will FAIL10% of the time doin that.

You got LUCKY it wasn't a GARBAGE truck.

See HOWE consistently that works arHOWEND
a kat or a bunny or a kid with a ball or a hot dog.

Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression -
Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog!

Saw a dog today and "good boy-" worked along
with calling him-came the first time every time.

Not even a sound out of him.

Think it is hard for him but he never even
seemed to think about going off-reacting.

The word come has no affect on him just
the phrase--Sunshine come goodboy.

===================================


Message -----
From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: FOREVER And A DAY! - Re: dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything to get
your approach out to dog owners
as I know it would save so many lives.

I know at times I was so frustrated I thought
of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never
would have but many people would have.

The world just does not know you can train
a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really
have no plans- -just to enjoy the warmth and
sun of Florida, so any time you could meet us
would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and
he just went to them tail wagging and rolled over for
them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people
passing, even those on rollerblades!

I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time
rubbing his face on the grass--today
I used his collar and he was so much
happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on
the street until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-but
thought he was too dangerous as the
drug would make him less fearful and then he
might attack or become more sure of himself and
become dominate aggressive.

Just had to share their great advice with you
but I am sure you have heard it all--even I am
becoming an expert on bad advice.


--------Original Post-----------
From: Linda
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed
Like A Miracle - WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Will try it today and post how well this system works.
We went to a dog class that I had enrolled in for
resocialization--getting him to not lunge and try to
attack every dog he sees, we were at the third class
and I forgot the Halti but he was relaxed and had no
problem with any of the seven dogs-

-in the past he would shake and after a little while
turn away from the dogs and look at the wall. Saturday
he wanted to play with the dogs--he actually pulled
toward the dogs- kinda jumped around like he use to do
before he became aggressive- when he got close to another dog.

Teacher was impressed with him but thought it
was from her class--I didn't tell her anything
different-she had tried but it sure was not working.

Today on our walk a dog went by and he alerted
but did not move toward the dog and when I called
him he actually came with his tail wagging and
forget about the dog.

I have told everyone I see about your dog training-
-all my friends and neighbors know I have been so worried and
frustrated with Sunshine's behavior-in
fact some would turn around and go the other way
so as not to get close to us.

If people knew how easy it could be to get a dog to come
and listen to you there would be a lot less dogs in shelters.

I know I didn't know what to do and was afraid I
would have to kill him if he bite someone even
though I loved him so much.

===============

Disciple Paulie Writes:

I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them
they are good dogs and they seem to follow me, once
I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from
me, now I only ever tell them they are good dogs and
they always are, always.

Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and
say "good dog" sincerely at the end of the
request and I bet you'll find your dog thinking
then responding everytime.

A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule
applies to every aspect of the relationship with
your dog.

Obedience and affection are not related, if they
were everyone would have obedient dogs.

Paul. ========================


HOWEDY Paul,

Might seem like that, but it's really MAGICK.
VooDoo, actually. <{} ; ~ ) >

==================
----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: "Jerry Howe" <jhowe2@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Damned Family Leadership Exercise -
Re: Am I expecting to much

Hi Jerry,

When I talked to you on the phone to order to machine
for daughter's new pup, I told you that I had an older
Chessie. I rescued him at 9 years old and have had
him for 3 years.

It's funny, but I thought I'd try some of your book
training with him. Where I used to say "come" and
then say "good boy" when he obeyed, I have reversed
it with a "good boy" first.

It really does work.

He was very confused at first, wondering what he
had done to get the praise.

But it really gets the attention and distracts him from
whatever he may have going through his brain when
he hears it.

Dogs are funny, but people are too. Can't wait to get
the Doggy do Right, etc.

Thanks,

N

=========


Hi, Jerry.

I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').

Best, ben ===================
"Greg M. Silverman" <gmsNOSPAM@no.umn.edu> wrote in message

Hey, Mr. Wizard, or Alchemist or whatever your alias
of the day is, have to say that our dog heels much
better than she did. This is after reading and
implementing the bit in your "Wits End" treatise.

And she's a royal nutter (but then again, aren't they all?).
Cheers! Greg--

--------------------

Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h67d@corp.supernews.com

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using Jerry's
methods with our dog. We had the same problem as the
original poster has with Buzz. One day working with the
family pack exercise and practicing the recall command
with the family and she'll now go out with hubby and
daughter instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative things you
might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to try the method
and *judge the results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in... always
comes when called, not chewing stuff even if we leave
it laying around, "re"housebroken after long shelter stay,
walks perfectly on leash, doesn't try to steal food from
our plates or beg... probably a few more things I'm
forgetting to mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi
and don't wander. jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed. When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive and
nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous owners,
then she was in a shelter for months. They (most of them)
wanted to give up and kill her Now she's gained confidence
and trust with us. Last night was another big breakthrough
(in my eyes). She barked! Big deal, she barked just once
when she heard the front door. Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry or that
the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources. In my
opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and
leaves out the bad. Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry
personally. I've emailed him and instant messaged him. I have
not bought a "Doggy Do Right". He's offered help for free.)

Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy
http://www.crneckiy.com & http://tarot.crneckiy.com
E-mail & MSN Messenger: mick@crneckiy.com
AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227

======================


----- Original Message -----
From: Eric
To: jhowe2@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:54 AM
Subject: just checking in..

Jerry!

You helped me with my pal Dundee about a year ago
regarding submissive peeing. Just wanted to let you
know he's doing great- he was "cured" in about 2 days
using your techniques!

He has since become the "smartest dog in the world"!
Once I stopped thinking like a human and got inside his
head, I can teach him ANYTHING, usually in a matter
of minutes. Makes me look like an expert dog-trainer.

I rescued two strays last week, cleaned 'em up, wormed
'em, and am getting them their shots. Time to get inside
their heads and teach them to teach themselves how to
be good dogs!

Instead of feeling like "training" is a chore, I look forward
to working with these guys a couple times a day...

Although I don't follow your instructions "to a T", I learned
from you to "think like a dog" and stimulate their brain rather
than beating ass or pinching, or any of that nonsense.

I know damn well I would NOT be loyal to someone who beat MY ass
lol!

Well, just wanted to thank you for rattling the bushes
out there and teaching folks the RIGHT way to "train" dogs.

A horseman friend of mine uses very similar techniques in
training his horses- he calls it "natural horsemanship". He
is hated by nearly all the local "trainers" yet somehow he
repeatedly wins at every show he attends. He rarely shows
any more, but goes now and then to rub their noses in it
(pun intended)... Too cool....

Have a great holiday season and keep up the good work!

Eric , Dundee, Sammy, and Maynard ==========================
"Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis***@chello.nl>
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RTFM is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for "Read The
F***ing Manual" ;-) I used the manual and it works very good!

But it is a long text to read (76 pages printed on A4-size
paper) My lab is 1year old now, and teaching him something
new takes about 30minutes (depending on what to teach offcourse)

My other dog (a 7year old staffordshire terrier-mix) is a bit
slower in learning, but he is used to me calling him a "bad
dog"whenever he did something i didn't want him to do, or
it might be the age.

Sometimes it looks like Sam (the lab) WANTS to learn
something new: he wants me to bring along the can
filled with washers whenever we go for a walk. It is a
very "humane" way of teaching: the dog is allways a
"good dog", and never a "bad dog"

There is nu punishment or prong-collars involved.

For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without
beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog,
he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask
permission" first, and to my surprise it worked!

My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky for them),
maybe this helped too.

Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html

-- Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11 http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/
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My dog (a 1 year old Yellow Lab) was biting his tail
at the root (Vet said his **** gland was blocked, and
was causing an itch).

After squeezing it, he still wouldn't stop biting his
tail. The vet advised a neck-funnel (don't know wat
you US-guy's call those) so he couldn't reach his butt.

I hate those things, i think they will drive a dog nuts.

I tried the wits end method. (difficult to read such a long
textfile if English is not your native language) Luckily this
is without all the "HOWE's" etc.so at least it's readable for
somebody like me.

The minute he started to bite i trew my key's
next to him on the floor, and praised him (he
stopped biting and looked up when he heard
the sound) I did this 7 times,

after that the tailbiting completely stopped.
Just give the wits end method a try.

One of the possible downloadlocations
is http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html

Hennie van Dalen
http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11


----- Original Message -----
From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo

Aloha Jerry,

Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders. I have not had a
shredded sheet for over a week now. It is nice
to be able to leave the bed made and come home
to a made bed.

Your program is awesome, but you already know
that. Keep up the good work!
Hoku ==================
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==================
----- Original Message -----
From: <tt>
To: <thepuppywizard@earthlink.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 8:17 PM
Subject: question HOWEDY Thomas,


Review the Hot & Cold Exercise and the Family
Leadership Exercise and the come command.
That'll give you absolute control.


That's good. Ask her to heel when you're walkin
her. Do the heeling pattern exercise when she
breaks to get involved with the other dogs.


That's O.K. Work on the heel till you can pass
them withHOWET her breaking heel.


Right. That's probably from bribing her to sit
before you started my method. The request
to sit increases anxiety if they've been bribed
to sit. It'll work when there's no other excitement.
That's the PROBLEM with treat or click treat or
any PHYSICAL REWARD methods.


Good. Handle the lead pupperly and reverse
and instantly praise when she breaks the heel.
When she fails to reverse, ask her to come,
that's the default in part 2 of the manual under
Four Step Heeling Pattern Exercise. (Work on
that till you're proficient).

We'd ONLY want to do that after the above fails.
You'd make the sound soon as she alerts on the
other dogs and continue working the heel command.


As long as you're not using the sound as an aversive
and instantly following it with praise and NEVER pullin
on the lead, you can't mess her up.

With the way she lunges you've got PLENTY of time
to effect a sound distraction.... but you gotta still be
workin the heel. Try to rely on the heel command to
get her through passin other dogs or greeting them.

If you got to use sound in front of other dogs they
got to be praised as well.

Seek HOWET some distractions soon as you've reviewed the basics.

LikeWIZE. It's a PERFECT method but it's
unf****ving of mistakes. But at worst it can't
make the dogs aggressive or shy so long
as you're praising pupperly.


INDEED. That's likey to be the first mistake
we make that triggers the dog to pull or bolt.


Yeah. That's the other reason it's so crucial to
handle the lead EXACTLY as instructed.


Ain't it! We can NEVER have a bad day workin
with HOWER dogs cause even if they're not
cooperating we just follow the technique and
they got not choice but to be happy in their work.


As you work with her she'll calm down and eat less.

It's such a pleasure havin NEVER to scold or
punish or bribe my dogs.


My pleasure entirely. Spread the good news.


Yours, Jerry.

================


Jeremy writes:

"A customer recently purchased a Shiba Inu and I suspect
she may be in for a wild ride. This is a breed that I suspect
may respond particularly well to mutual respect style training.

The alpha complex (as I now call it) is likely to
really provoke the dog's naturally competitive nature.

Thanks 1000 times for opening my eyes and don't let
those assholes get you down. I can't be the only person
that sees the sense in your methods. I'm in Windsor,
Ontario, Canada and pass your info to anyone it might
help" Thanks, Jeremy. ================
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BOTH THESE GUYS GOT DEAD DOGS CAUSE THEY DIDN'T
BELIEVE THEIR Puppy Wizzzard TILL IT WAS TOO LATE.
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Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since
I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough
of the manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher and the
posts of Marylin Rammell to believe and use it. This naive
child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marylin for
putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile crap at
the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging
idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe
we would not have had to hold the head of a really
magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the
needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped
his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into
good behavior. Naive is believing that people that hide
behind fake names are more honest than people that use
their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog
breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and
lived by their craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing that
people like Jerry Howe and Marylin Rammell are going to
just go away because you people act like fools. Why do you
act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really care.


I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and take
it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing. You
would never believe the results, so you'll never know.


I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh?
As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.


Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I
get to listen to the box first?)

-------------------


--- Original Message -----
From: Paul Bousie
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: Geday.


Hey J,

I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same
old crappy advice and misunderstanding of the
only advice worth reading.

The problem with your method J is that I can't
answer the questions on the NG no more, people
are after a quick fix, they don't want to understand
that dog training requires a disiplined method, I'm
now really understanding that they are all result
orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to
stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they
want to stamp out each anxiety one at a time not
realising they create a new one as they deal with
the last.

I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they
don't even realise the errors of thier ways and
they arn't self thinkers, they follow the majority,
after all if everyone says thats the way then it
must be. I've finally realised people don't want
to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog,
they want a little puppet that sits and stays and
downs and does all the nice doggy stuff or so
they think, then when the dog acts like a dog
they come squealing to the NG asking how to
stop the dog being a dog.

I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind
that I think demonstrates the way we approach
dog training. Imagine lots of little circles all in a
cluster, each one representing a dog anxiety or
behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents
something about the dog, all of them create what
a dog is.

The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out
the "bad" circles, try to eliminate as many as you
can, problem is each one you stamp out another
takes it's place (anxiety circles can't be destroyed
they just change), obviously it's a futile exercise,
but thats the traditional way.

Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds
all the small circles, this big circle is the whole dog,
that's what we get hold of with all the little circles
inside, we don't see the little circles we see the BIG
circle the macro as you put it and use that to train.

I laugh now when I see posts critisising you, they
are critising something they don't even understand
or even have the capacity to understand.

See ya,

Paul

=====================

the puppy wizard

BWEEEEEEEEEAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!

"Hi phyloe!"

MISERY LOVES COMPANY.


and refusing

if we all go

in, until

inside on

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY leah,

Of curse, the first problem is the dogs ain't
trained not to bolt through the door. Of curse,
there's NO METHOD to train a dog not to bolt
HOWET the door.

THAT'S HOWE COME tara o. aka tee crated
her DEAD DOG Summer when the kids visited.
And THAT'S HOWE COME she WENT INSANE.

Could be MENTAL ILLNESS.


Oh goody! You'll tell us HOWE to solve the problem.


The PROBLEM is the dogs bolt HOWET the door.

THEN they don't come when called.


TOO MANY WORDS, leah?


Oh. Well THAT makes sense. Teach them
the GO AWAY command and when they
BLOW THAT OFF they'll be COMIN.

HOWE abHOWET sumpthin like "I COMMAND
YOU TO COME!!! - SHAAAZZZAAAMM!"

Works like FREAKIN MAGICK for The Amazing Puppy Wizard.

HOWEver, it might be TOO MANY WORDS for you.


Don't repeat "SHAAAZZZAAAMMM!" unless
you can ENFORCE IT. Right?


Like put them on leash for a nice choke?


THAT'S INSANE.

Dogs LOVE to be bathed.

You'd be better off in neutral terrortory.


The Amazing Puppy Wizard PREFERS "I COMMAND
YOU TO COME! SHAAAZZZAAAMMM!" Works like
freakin MAGICK. Only BETTER.


O.K. THEN say "SHAAAZZZAAAMMM!"

Make Gorilly S-HOWENDS.


Repeat "SHAAAZZZAAAMMM!!!" and give IT a cookie.


When someWON is holding her. For a cookie.


O.K.
Then say "SHAAAZZZAAAMMM!"?


You mean FORCE her.

Distractions increase thinking activity
and makes learning happen faster.

You gonna SNEAK UP on the come command?


The idea is SHEER IDIOCY.

You mean instead of trainin a 100% RELIABLE
come command as a conditional reflex in a few
minutes using NO BRIBES FEAR FORCE or
INTIMIDATION as The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Students REPORT?

YOU CALL THEM LIARS. REMEMBER, leah?

<SNIP IDIOCY>

HOWE long does THAT usually take, leah?


Ahhh, the DIMINISHING REWARDS method.


Unless your dog doesn't enjoy working for praise.

You mean, the PRAISE?

UNLESS there's a DISTRACTION.

Pack a lunch. IN FACT, while you're eatin
lunch you could STUDY your FREE copy
of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual and follow the instructions and
you'd have a fairly reliable come command
by the time you finished your lunch.


Yeah. Let the dog tell you when IT is ready
to learn to take a cookie from you.

You're a FRAUD, leah.

Here's your mentor lying abHOWET the come command:
"Lynn K." <javagsd@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:37cd72a9.0109081028.5fcc087d@posting.google.c om...


From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosmakos@home.com)
Subject: Re: dog comes when he feels like it Date: 1999/05/21

I've found dog parks to be great places for proofing the
recall, even with young puppies. Let the pup play with
other pups, while on a long line.

Call the pup, reeling in if necessary, and praise the heck out
of him, then let him go play again. The reason this works so
well at the dog park is that the pup learns that leaving the
fun to obey the command doesn't mean the fun is over. A very
good thing to learn early.

Timing is critical here, because what you want
is for him to think about escaping, maybe even
start, but still have time to give the command
and have him decide to come back to you before
he hits the end of the long line.

The very 1st thing is to secure her while you're training
so she can't chase when you are preoccupied and can't
work with her.

And, yes, I've had more than a few "come to Jesus
meetings" with dogs over willful disobedience.
Example - pup who knows full well what a recall is
hits adolesence and decides that the recall is optional.

Putting him back on a long line and doing 5 fast
recalls is a "come to Jesus meeting". Or if he suddenly
decides that he can release himself from a down/stay
after being solid at it for 5 months, and turns it into a
catch-me game, a sharp downward collar correction
as you put him back into position is a "come to
Jesus meeting".

Don't infer from that description that
force is an intrinsic part of it, though, because it
isn't. I know that that is what you are trying to get at,
but you'd be very wrong.

Lynn K

the puppy wizard

AWESOME?

You think Manu will retrieve Lola if he's ESCAPING?

A reliable COME COMMAND would be AWESOME.

the puppy wizard

BWEEEEEEEEAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY elizabeth,

THAT'S on accHOWENT of they've been
hurt intimidated crated bribed and ignored
for their bonding behaviors.


Dogs are terrortorial by nature.


Your dog knows he got no business in another yard.

Right. That's gonna have to change.

She's gonna have to learn HOWE to PRAISE
IN ADVANCE and teach her dogs the perimeter
of their pupperty and they'll NEVER want to leave.


THAT'S HOWE COME the dogs RUN HOWET on her.


EZ for you to say, elizabeth. You HURT and
INTIMIDATE dogs and lie abHOWET it.


Dogs are terrortorial. They ain't SUPPOSED
to E***PLORE withHOWET their pack.


You mean like HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
100% NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Students
all over the Whole Wild World who REPORT perimeter
training their dogs in a few minutes withHOWET
hurting and intimidating and bribing them?

Oh. You mean BRIBE them. That's HOWE COME
you bums can't train your dogs.


Her dogs run HOWET on her and won't come.
phyloe has been havin A LOT of PROBLEMS
with her dogs or she wouldn't be postin here.


That's absurd. Her dogs RUN HOWET on
her and won't come back till she captures
them. She should probably get a shock fence.


That so, elizabeth? You got a way with
words but your FACTS are quite absurd.


RIGHT. So you're gonna tell her to HURT her dog.


The Amazing Puppy Wizard doesn't lock gates.
HE trains his dogs to the perimeter of their pupperty
and then they got no business HOWETA their HOWES.

She could TRAIN the dogs not to go through the
fence in less time than it'll take to go to the hardware
store and find the STUFF.
<snip gate>

But it'd be WIZE to train the dogs so she
don't gotta play policeman at the gate.

That's been their habit. There's no reinforcing nuthin.


Instead of just TRAININ the dogs not to ESCAPE?


That could take six months like HOWE it done
for sindy SADIST MOOREon and her SAR dog.


You got all the E***CUSES in advance.


We was talkin abHOWET trainin the dogs...


That so? That's ABSURD.


That so? You get 100% RELIABLE INSTANT
COME COMMANDS in a few minutes of EZ
GENTLE NON PHYSICAL CONditioning like
HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Students all over the
Whole Wild World REPORT RIGHT HERE?:
----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: "Jerry Howe" <jhowe2@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Damned Family Leadership Exercise -
Re: Am I expecting to much

Hi Jerry,

When I talked to you on the phone to order to machine
for daughter's new pup, I told you that I had an older
Chessie. I rescued him at 9 years old and have had
him for 3 years.

It's funny, but I thought I'd try some of your book
training with him. Where I used to say "come" and
then say "good boy" when he obeyed, I have reversed
it with a "good boy" first.

It really does work.

He was very confused at first, wondering what he
had done to get the praise.

But it really gets the attention and distracts him from
whatever he may have going through his brain when
he hears it.

Dogs are funny, but people are too. Can't wait to get
the Doggy do Right, etc.

Thanks,
N =========


A foster dog?


INDEEDY:

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:

"For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar,"-- lynn k.

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution Will
Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.


You mean, AFTER THE FACT.


The dog will come INSTANTLY if you follow the
INSTRUCTIONS in your FREE copy of The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual:

Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed
Like A Miracle -

WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog!

Saw a dog today and "good boy-" worked along with
calling him-came the first time every time. Not even
a sound out of him.

Think it is hard for him but he never even seemed
to think about going off-reacting.

The word come has no affect on him just the phrase-
-Sunshine come goodboy.

===================================

Hi, Jerry.

I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').

Best, ben ===================


You mean punish a dumb animal?


NO PROBLEMO! We can EZily teach them
to COME instantly, if you know HOWE.


shirly chong is a dog abusing mental case; like yourself, elizabeth.

<snip crap link>


That so? She shocks and chokes dogs.


You can't train the dog to come on his own
terrortory. The dog will ignore you and get pissed off.


That won't train the dog.


On accHOWENT of that won't train the dog either.


It'll REINFORCE their EFFORTS to ESCAPE.

THAT'S INSANE. The dog will enjoy pullin phyloe's
chain till the C-HOWES come back to their HOWESES.


That's quite a SECRET, elizabeth. Your PAL
shirly chong chokes bribes and shocks dogs.


"WHEN POSSIBLE?"

You're supposed to be trainin a dumb animal
to naturally want to come every time you call IT.

Using aversives makes dogs FEAR and HATE you.

That's INSANE. You've got to CON-TROLL the
ENVIRONMENT on accHOWENT of you don't
know HOWE to TRAIN the dog not to naturally WANT to ESCAPE.


It's IMPOSSIBLE for your pal shirly chong.
All she knows is bribe choke hurt intimidate.

She may never get a E***CELLENT recall
on accHOWENT of your pal shirly chokes
and shocks dogs to train them and we all
know THAT won't WORK soon as you can't
HURT and INTIMIDATE the dog noMOORE,
like when they AIN'T on that long line, elizabeth.

Your METHOD FAILS, elizabeth.


You mean rely on SHEER DUMB BLIND STUPID LUCK?


Yeah, but you're a idiot, a liar, a dog abuser,
a coward, punk, thug, mental case.


You don't SEE them here... do you, elizabeth.


Your pals all PREFER shirly's methods and
THEY FAIL to train their dogs or they wouldn't
be POSTING here noMOORE like The Amazing
Puppy Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Students.


INDEEDY. But you're goin to a different place.
You're goin to a PRIVATE LIST where you won't
be IDENTIFIED E***POSED and DISCREDITED
as a lying dog abusing punk thug coward mental
case every time you post your idiocy.

----- Original Message ----- From: "N"
To: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWizard@EarthLink.Net>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: Hi Jerry


With a new word...

Disciple Paulie Sez: "No One Understands How Wits End
Training Really Works, They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey And
don't Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method That Deals With
Any Situation And The Foundation Is Built On Trust And Understanding."


Disciple Paulie Writes:

I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them they are
good dogs and they seem to follow me, once I told them they
were bad dogs and they ran away from me, now I only ever tell
them they are good dogs and they always are, always.

Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say "good dog"
sincerely at the end of the request and I bet you'll find your
dog thinking then responding everytime.

A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies
to every aspect of the relationship with your dog.

Obedience and affection are not related, if they were
everyone would have obedient dogs.

Paul. ========================


It'll take a couple minutes to train the
dogs not to want to leave their pupperty
but you can't do THAT if you hurt them.

Only know that you can't post here
abHOWETS nodoGgamenedMOOORE.

From your pal shirley chong's website:

"Howevah! There are some dogs who will turn and then go "naaaaaah,
I don't think so" and deliberately go back to what they are doing.
Dogs do have the capacity to weigh their options and make the
decision I don't want them to make.

I am not a clicker fanatic. I am a fanatic about good recalls.

My first use of an aversive is to have the dog on a long line,
step on the long line to restrict the dog's ability to move away,
then I walk the dog down, take the dog's buckle collar in my hand
and make them come with me as I walk backwards away from whatever
was distracting them. I walk backwards because that's the side of
my body they usually see when they're doing a recall (not the side
of my body). When I've moved far enough away so that the dog has
functioning brain cells again, I drop the collar while continuing
to move backwards. If I've judged my distance correctly, the dog
continues to follow me. I click and treat. Then we try that
distraction again, but probably at a greater distance or a less
distracting version (for instance, instead of all six dogs
playing, have them all sitting or standing).

If the dog is still refusing the recall, then I escalate my
aversive a bit--usually, to taking two big handfuls of ruff as I
move backwards.

If I'm getting more refusals, I stop and think about the
situation. What part doesn't the dog understand? I have to fix
that part.

Some dogs do get "long line wise." That is, they never refuse a
recall while on the long line but when the long line is gone, they
are unreliable even if the handler started with close recalls off
lead in a familiar (and safely fenced) area.

IF the dog never ever refuses a recall while on the long line,
no matter what the distraction (and I am pretty good at devising
distractions for this test!), then I move to a shock collar.

To keep the dog from becoming collar wise, I spend a couple
weeks fiddling with putting both the dummy collar and the working
collar on and off the dog. I put it on several times a day and
leave it on for a couple hours at a time. Every time the dog goes
outside, I put the collar on (even if I have to take it off first
in order to do so). Basically, I make such a production out of
putting the collar on and off that the dog starts to tune it out.

There are two ways to use a shock collar: one is as a positive
punisher for any behaviour that isn't a recall (after the SS, of
course!). The other way is as a negative reinforcer (the collar is
set fairly low, handler gives SS, then starts shocking dog, stops
shocking the dog when the dog is near them). I use the collar as a
positive punisher.

To be effective as a positive punisher, I set the level of shock
at a level high enough (in my best guesstimation) to be unpleasant
to the dog. I want the dog to startle a bit and even yelp when
they get shocked. No, this is not pleasant. After each shock, I
call the dog again (because many dogs tend to panic when something
mysteriously reaches out and stings them).

Done properly - first conditioning the dog, then training the
dog to do the recall under many different conditions until the dog
never ever refuses a recall when they are attached to a long line,
and with the level of shock set high enough for the dog to
actively want to avoid it - I have found that the shock collar is
incredibly effective. It doesn't take many shocks (far less than
ten) before the dog is equally reliable off line as they are on
the long line.

After the dog has gotten to the point that they never refuse the
recall, I start to phase out the shock collar by using the dummy
collar again. Sometimes the dog has on the working collar,
sometimes the dummy collar. I keep messing with and switching the
collars several times a day, separate from any training situation.

And that's how I get a reliable recall. I would say that 90% of
all the dogs I have personally taught a recall to either never had
an aversive or only had the led-back-by-the collar aversive fewer
than five times. The vast majority of dogs belonging to clients
who came to me specifically in order to use my shock collar never
wear the shock collar--when the owner goes back and re-teaches the
recall as above, the recall disappears most of the time.

However, there are a few dogs who are not reliable--and that's
where the skilled use of aversives can save their lives. I believe
that at least part of what may be happening with such dogs is
instinctive drift-they are being asked to stop doing something
instinctual (coursing prey or courting bitches) and that instinct
is stronger than the handler's available reinforcers."

ADIOS, elizabeth and pals.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{) ; ~ ) >

the puppy wizard

HOWEDY phyloe,

That so? AMAZING HOWE many dogs are RESCUED.


That's on accHOWENT of you bribe and punish your dogs.


Yeah. NoWON hits dogs for bein BAD. You
should tie them HOWET on the porch for
punishment. Or lock them in a box.


Yeah. Dream on.

---- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog!

Saw a dog today and "good boy-" worked along with calling him-
came the first time every time. Not even a sound out of him.

Think it is hard for him but he never even seemed to think
about going off-reacting.

The word come has no affect on him just the phrase-
-Sunshine come goodboy. ===================================

You never will, phyloe. You and your punk thug
coward mental case pals don't stand a chance
of HOWEtwitting the cunning of the domestic
puppy dog even after The Amazing Puppy Wizard
and all HIS 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual Students told
you HOWE they done it EZ GENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY and for FREE, to boot.


BWEEEEEEEEHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA!!!

What do you want from your lying dog
abusing punk thug coward mental case
pals, phyloe? You lookin for a MIRACLE?


Pupperly handled well trained dogs NEVER LEAVE
their own terrortory withHOWET the family.


Tough break, eh phyloe?
----- Original Message -----
From: <>
To: "Jerry Howe" <jhowe2@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Damned Family Leadership Exercise -
Re: Am I expecting to much

Hi Jerry,

When I talked to you on the phone to order to machine
for daughter's new pup, I told you that I had an older
Chessie. I rescued him at 9 years old and have had
him for 3 years.

It's funny, but I thought I'd try some of your book
training with him. Where I used to say "come" and
then say "good boy" when he obeyed, I have reversed
it with a "good boy" first.

It really does work.

He was very confused at first, wondering what he
had done to get the praise.

But it really gets the attention and distracts him from
whatever he may have going through his brain when
he hears it.

Dogs are funny, but people are too. Can't wait to get
the Doggy do Right, etc.

Thanks,
N =========


INDEEDY. It's time to do the only honorable thing left
to do under these cir***stances, for the good of the
RESCUE dogs, phyloe.

Hi, Jerry.

I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').

Best, ben ===================


Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h67d@corp.supernews.com

Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using Jerry's
methods with our dog. We had the same problem as the
original poster has with Buzz. One day working with the
family pack exercise and practicing the recall command
with the family and she'll now go out with hubby and
daughter instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative things you
might hear about Jerry & Wits' End here, to try the method
and *judge the results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in... always
comes when called, not chewing stuff even if we leave
it laying around, "re"housebroken after long shelter stay,
walks perfectly on leash, doesn't try to steal food from
our plates or beg... probably a few more things I'm
forgetting to mention. *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi
and don't wander. jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed. When we brought
her home she was very untrusting and ultra-submissive
(except with her area/toys where she was possessive and
nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous owners,
then she was in a shelter for months. They (most of them)
wanted to give up and kill her Now she's gained confidence
and trust with us. Last night was another big breakthrough
(in my eyes). She barked! Big deal, she barked just once
when she heard the front door. Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about Jerry or that
the Wits' End manual is culled from other sources. In my
opinion, even if it is, it takes only the good stuff and
leaves out the bad. Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know Jerry
personally. I've emailed him and instant messaged him. I have
not bought a "Doggy Do Right". He's offered help for free.)

Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy
http://www.crneckiy.com & http://tarot.crneckiy.com
E-mail & MSN Messenger: mick@crneckiy.com
AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227 ======================
"Greg M. Silverman" <gmsNOSPAM@no.umn.edu> wrote in message

Hey, Mr. Wizard, or Alchemist or whatever your alias
of the day is, have to say that our dog heels much
better than she did. This is after reading and
implementing the bit in your "Wits End" treatise.

And she's a royal nutter (but then again, aren't they all?).
Cheers! Greg-- --------------------


HOWEDY Professora Daniel and Sunshine!
"Linda" <llindaleedaniel@msn.com> wrote in message news:3c317fe4.0309151300.f27f01c@posting.google.co m...

We've missed you. Tried to send you some pics
the other day, but they didn't go through. <} : ~ ( >


Do tell, it's been ages since we've heard from you.

INDEEDY. Sez so in your FREE copy of The Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual. Don't it.


Good for you!

BWEAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

Took you WON brief session to get Sunshine
to come the first time, every time.

The Puppy Wizard can do NUTHIN withHOWET you.


Yeah, he is special, allrighty.

Yeah. The Puppy Wizard told you it was gonna be
EZ FAST and FREE to train Sunshine to relax and
naturally want to do every thing you ask.

Good for you!


Knowing HOWE to handle and train a dog withHOWET
fear force confrontation bribery or confinement means
we won't HAVE problem dogs.


INDEEDY. The Puppy Wizard will remain settin
right here stark ravin nekkid, till you come to HIM.

Lookin forward to your return to Florida for the winter.

----- Message -----
From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: FOREVER And A DAY! - Re: dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sunshine but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.


--------Original Post-----------
From: Linda
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Will try it today and post how well this system works.
We went to a dog class that I had enrolled in for
resocialization--getting him to not lunge and try to
attack every dog he sees, we were at the third class
and I forgot the Halti but he was relaxed and had no
problem with any of the seven dogs-

-in the past he would shake and after a little while
turn away from the dogs and look at the wall. Saturday
he wanted to play with the dogs--he actually pulled
toward the dogs- kinda jumped around like he use to do
before he became aggressive- when he got close to another
dog.

Teacher was impressed with him but thought it was from
her class--I didn't tell her anything different-she had
tried but it sure was not working.

Today on our walk a dog went by and he alerted but did
not move toward the dog and when I called him he actually
came with his tail wagging and forget about the dog.

I have told everyone I see about your dog training-
-all my friends and neighbors know I have been so worried
and frustrated with Sunshine's behavior-infact some would
turn around and go the other way so as not to get close to us.

If people knew how easy it could be to get a dog to come
and listen to you there would be a lot less dogs in shelters.

I know I didn't know what to do and was afraid I would have
to kill him if he bite someone even though I loved him so
much.

============================

Here's you, phyloe:

From: Phyloe (phyloe@hit.net)
Subject: Help! I want another bird
Newsgroups: alt.pets.parrots.****atiels
Date: 1999/11/07

Early in this year I lost my female 'Tiel. I have been
finding myself wanting to get another. I now have a
dog that is not bird friendly, she is a retired Greyhound
and they are trained to chase small animals.

I wouldwant my bird to be with me just as my last one
was but I like my dog to be with me also. I do not like
to have a pet and to have it "caged" so to speak.

My dog likes to be in the living room till bed time when
she goes to the garage. My bird was also with me in
the living room till bed time and I did not like to cage
her when I was home.

Now if I do get a bird either the dog or the bird will
have to be "put away" while the other is "out". Can
any one help me with this dilemma? I have a small
house so there is not room for a special bird room
and I hate to banish the dog to the garage.

HELP! I guess I really cannot get a bird can I?

Phyloe

------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------

From: Phyloe (phyloe@hit.net)
Subject: Re: An 80 Gram Sledgehammer!
Newsgroups: alt.pets.parrots.****atiels
Date: 2000/04/28

I never imagined how much I would like mine.

I had a Sun Conure and bought the 'tiel for company.

The Conure inhibited the 'tiel so she stayed in her cage
and would not trust me. I sold the Conure, they are very
loud and needy and bit me all the time for no reason!

After the Conure was gone the 'tiel blossomed!

She was like a 2 year old, testing me by going where
she knew she was not supposed to go. It got where all
I had to do was point at her and she would leave the
forbidden zones!

She knew!

I think she just liked to show me that
she COULD go there if she wanted to.

Later a dog killed my bird in a tragic freak
accident and I have not replaced her.

I do think 'tiels make as good a pet as a dog,
well except for the pooping machine part.

How can such a little animal make 5 times as
much poop as the amount of food they eat?

Phyloe

------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------

From: Phyloe (phyloe@hit.net)
Subject: Timid dog, HELP!
Date: 1999/03/08

I recently adopted a greyhound from the local race track.
This dog is extremely timid, so much so that when it meets
new people it runs away and shakes when approached.

Is there some hting I can give this dog to make it more social?

I have never seen a dog so fearful of everything, people,
other dogs, movement, etc. I need help!

Scott

From: Phyloe (phyloe@hit.net)
Subject: Re: Barking Date: 2000/04/25
"dll316" <> wrote in message


Punishment will help too. If the dog does not like
the back porch (or something similar) when it barks
and ignores your stop commands then a time out on
the porch for 15 minutes may help.

Barking = Porch time the dog will figure that out
especially if it likes to be with you.

Phyloe


From: Jerry Howe (jhowe@cfl.rr.com)
Subject: Re: Help, dog won't come when called
Date: 2001-01-29 06:07:22 PST Hello Dave,
"Dave Harsant" <d.harsant@telstra.com> wrote in message news:953f59$dr3$1@nnrp1.deja.com...

You mean I've been wasting my time for 38 years?


Only because this is my occupation, good buddy.
Maybe you can't train certain problems, but training
problem dogs is my job, so I expect that's why people
come to ME, instead of YOU for this kind of advice, huh?


Because this has been my job for 38 years, that's why.

This doesn't have anything to do with my Doggy Do
Right (and Kitty Will Too). The FREE Wits' End Dog
Training Method manual doesn't even mention Doggy
Do Right (and Kitty Will Too), just to make sure some
evil moron like YOU doesn't try to CONFUSE the issues.

We're talking about straight dog training here, no
gimmicks, nothing but INFORMATION..

YOU GOT ANY?

I do. And I've got information and advice that WORKS
on every dog behavior problem. What have YOU got?

NUTHIN.

Speak up.

Let's talk dog training.

Choke me with my own words. Leave my machine outta this.

Ask yourself "WHY DOESN'T JERRY
HURT DOGS TO TRAIN THEM?"

And then just answer "BECAUSE JERRY KNOWS
HOWE TO TRAIN DOGS WITHOUT HURTING THEM."

And THEN SAY OUT LOUD: "IGNORE JERRY, HE'S
MEAN TO DOG ABUSERS."

You can get all the information you need to PROPERLY
handle and train your dog using non force, non
confronatational, scientific and psychological
methods, in the Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
available for free at http://www.doggydoright.com

The Wits' End Dog Training Method manual is provided
compliments of the BIOSOUND Scientific Elves as an
alternative to Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will Too).

Your pal, Jerry "The Phony," Howe. j;~}