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Default If there is a 'real' dog behaviorist or someone with some knowledge of german shephards could you please help me with my problem



HOWEDY jlm,

There's several of the "world's best" readin right now
and cringing behind their sheepskins mumbling to themselves
that they're university trained behaviorists and The
Amazing Puppy Wizard ain't even got a high school education.


A dog is a dog. We don't discriminate nomore.


If they could they'd post and The Amazing Puppy
Wizard would DISCREDIT EVERY THING THEY SEZ with
CASE HISTORY and SCIENTIFIC PEER REVIEWED DATA.


Five years is the "final maturation stage" identified
by Scott & Fuller and The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{#); ~ ) >


ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL INSTINCTIVE
REFLEXIVE Ways
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.

Damn The Descartean War of
"Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

READ IT: http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u


We call that "birdy".

He's trying to get your attention. Try PRAISING HIM.


Well then, you're all set. All behaviors are the same same
same same. Fix the pacing and hyperactivity and the other
problems will go back where they came from.


ALL AGGRESSION IS FEAR. ALL FEAR IS CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.


Of curse. Dogs and kids go together like hand in glove.

That bark is ANXXXIETY.

That's because she's been REPRESSED on greeting visitors.

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.


WON TIME IS A LOT.

That's because you try to prevent the dog
from jumping on or pestering visitors or
maybe just offer him and withhold cookies
till he sits. Just telling the dog to "go
lay down" is enough to cause ANXXXIETY,
especially if TREATS are used to CON-TROLL
the dog's behavior:

Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING THEORY
model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT. Of curse,
Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated
HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected
reward not received is experienced as a punishment
and can produce extensive and persistent aggression
(Azrin et al, 1966).


HE ONLY DOES THAT WITH PEOPLE IN CON-TROLL OF HIM.


Of curse. And that makes him more afraid.


We know what sets dogs off.

YOU GET THE CRITTER YOU TRAINED

Damn The Descartean War of
"Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.


I'd PREFER the dog ALWAYS attack then we know
when we've EXXXTINGUISHED the behavior it's
EXXXTINGUISHED. He's INCONSISTENT because he's
NOT ALWAYS "corrected" forced (crated) bribed
or scolded for greeting behavior. Like if the
dog goes to sniff and lick the visiting kid,
and your daughter admonishes him to "STOP THAT!"

That's all you need to make the dog AFRAID.
That's what got steve walker's DEAD DOG Sampson
DEAD on his kids. Sampson LEARNED to FEAR gettin
abused when he feared his kids so he took it
out on OTHER DADDY'S KIDS when steve couldn't
DISCIPLINE him the was he done at home.

You can look it up in the archives if you
want to waste your time seein the same same
same same PROBLEM. Bye the bye, steve took
Sampson to the top BEHAVIOURIST in U.K. but
"it was too late" because the BEHAVIOURISTS
are MISTAKEN about nearly every thing they
teach and you can PROVE THAT in WON DAY if
you study and follow the INSTRUCTIONS in
your own FREE COPY of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual:
"Leprechaun" <Leprech...@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:m01Hc.20882$uK.16329@twister.tampabay.rr.com. ..


Fortunately, I happen to believe he is too.
I took a rescued three year old beagle that
had been kept outside all of its life that didn't
even recognize or respond to its name to
Jerry's home (That ugly cinder block shack???
get real) and in just over one hour of working
with the dog, he was coming on command
(not a quickly as he does now, but still...) and
walking with us on a loose lead.

His "hot/cold" exercise and "come when called"
command and pack exercise WORK!


Well, he's been near mine, and done wonders for him.

You don't have to like him. You don't have
to agree with his methods, but as far as I
am concerned, I've never seen any other
training approach that was as fast and easy.
<<<< Rest of original post deleted >>>>

Ron Flanagan
Orlando, Florida

-----------------------

Subject: Re: Lab/Rot 11 Months (TEMPER PROBLEMS)
Date: 2004-05-21 19:22:05 PST
"Zack Pellers" <ZackPell...@GUESSWHERE.cc>
wrote in message
dlin...@towson.edu (Derek) wrote in news:
697700b8.0405202039.5c737...@posting.google.com:

Your dog needs to be retrained. Contact Mr. Jerry Howe.

Http://www.DoggyDoRight.com

You can start by downloading the free training
manual available on the site above. I used it on
my 4 year old Fila Brasileiro.

When I first brought him home from rescue, he
was similar to the way you decribed your dog.
After using Mr. Howe's training method, the dog
was cured within 72 hours.

-Jack

From: BNTDO...@aol.com
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 2:22 PM
Subject: Update

Hi Jerry,

Just an update to let you know how things are going.
Hunter is doing really great thanks to you and your
training manual.

I cancelled the appointment with the new vet to get
him re-evaluated for aggression. all weekend long I
had kids run by the fence to try and make him bark.

He didn't!

Tonight we are going to PetsMart to work on his dog
aggresion but even that is going good for him. I have
less and less of a problem with him in my vehicle. He
doesn't try so hard to protect it from the four wheeled
monsters that go by.

I think soon I'll be able to leave his window open when
we go down the road and he won't try to jump out at the
cars that go by.

I have shared the manual with several dog owners
that I know and even a group of dog trainers.

Thank you again.
Kay


From: BNTDO...@aol.com
To: jho...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM

Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should
Always Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They
Should NEVER FEEL GUILTY For Having An
Aggressive Dog Euthanized."

Dear Jerry,

It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are
that maligning you and your training manual but
tell them from me that it does work.

Hunter is just doing so well even the people who
advocated putting him down are impressed with him.

I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went
over there to help her cut his nails. She started yelling
at him for growling at me.

I told her to tell him what a good boy he is instead.
Lo and behold he stopped growling and I could do his
nails. All 4 feet.

My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull
method and my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter
has gotten his enthusiasm back for his training and I
couldn't be more pleased.

He even tried to kiss a child the other day.

Major break through.

This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat
the kids through the fence. I can now take him in
the car with me again without him trying to chase
cars through the windshield.

So Jerry tell these people that the first rule
of dog training is Do No Harm.

The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first rule.

Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down.

Hunter was diagnosed aggressive and he is going
to stay alive and by my side where he belongs.

Thank you so much.
Kay ----------------------------

That's the 1st physical EXXXORCISE you'll learn.
It's called The Hot And Cold EXXXORCISE. It'll
teach your dog not to pull and to ALWAYS TRUST
because you never hurt him on leash.


THAT'S HOWE COME HE ATTACKS.


You must NEVER pull on his collar.


Because he's been CHOKED.


That's not surprising given his other behaviors.


Good. That will likeWIZE be CURED IN WON DAY
but you gotta STUDY and FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS
and ASK me if you need any additional FREE HEELP.
"Dan Moore" <mooret...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:fS2Lc.114567$OB3.42357@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.

Tracy,

What worked for me, in just one storm,
was to praise the dog after each clap
of thunder, telling him he's a Good Dog!

This is an almost 13 year old Doberman, BTW.

The next time it thundered, he did not even
react at all--you could not tell it was the same
dog as before.

There was more thunder just the other day,
and same thing, nada, nothing, zilch, no
cowering, whimpering, trying to hide at all,
it was that simple.

I got this idea from Jerry Howe, who might seem
to be a "wild and crazy" character, but his non-
abusive way of handling dogs WORKS.

Wonderfully.

Praise.

It's that simple.

Juanita


Chris Williams writes:

"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma," ====================


I just broke a dog of doin that last week
in 3 thunder claps of him showing anxiety.

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST


And how do we know this aspect of his
advice is right?

Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.

--Marshall


ALL Temperament and Behavior Problems
And 90% Of DIS-EASE
Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
THAT'S GOOD!
THAT MEANS We can CURE ALL
Temperament And Behavior Problems
And 90% Of DIS-EASE
NEARLY INSTANTLY
Simply By DOING EXXXACTLY, PRECISELY, OPPOSITE
Of HOWE We've Been TAUGHT
By UNIVERSITY TRAINED Behaviorists


Pavlov Told Us So 100 Years Ago. Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last
Student Demonstrated At UofOH Oxford, That Rehabilitation
Of Hyperactive Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific Management
Of Doggys. <{) ; ~ ) >

WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO BLAME THE DOG OR ITS BREED.

"We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
Come To Their Senses And Support Your Valuable Work.
God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.

You got a lotta work to do. Better not waste
your time kibbitzing with the imbeciles who'll
advise you to hurt intimidate bribe crate shock
and murder your dog like they've done theirs.

Most folks with dogs like you got come here ONLY
TO GET PERMISSION to MURDER their dogs. We'll know
if that's your situation by your responses to the
other posters who'll tell you to MURDER IT: <"Terri"@cyberhighway

Robert Crim writes:

I assume that I and my wife are those two
naive childs since I freely admit to having
read and, I hope, understood enough of the
manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher
and the posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe
and use it.

This naive child would like to say thank you
to both Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with
a constant barrage of really infantile crap at
the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers.

The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
the nagging idea that if people like them had
been posting earlier, maybe we would not have
had to hold the head of a really magnificent
animal in our arms while he was given the
needle and having to hug him and wait until
he gasped his last gasp.

To my mind, "naive" is believing you can
terrorize a dog into good behavior. Naive is
believing that people that hide behind fake
names are more honest than people that use
their real names.

Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey
(lyingdogDUMMY, j.h.) are the equal or better
than those that have studied and lived by their
craft for decades.

"Stupid" is believing that people do not see
kindergarten level insults for what they are.

Really stupid is believing that people like
Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are going
to just go away because you people act like
fools. Why do you act like fools? I really
have no idea, and I don't really care.


I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's
day and take it down to the Animal Shelter for
their use and testing. You would never believe
the results, so you'll never know.


I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh?

As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.


Yes it was, and that is sad.

Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do
I get to listen to the box first?) --------==========================-----------


STUDY IT: http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u


"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition." Ivan P. Pavlov

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966). Some
clinics have reported ELIMINATION ofthe need for
child THERAPY through changing the clinical emphasis
from clinical to parental HANDLING of the child
(Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents temporarily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVERY LEARNING
THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT.
Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge,
demonstrated HOWE we escape the phenomenon
that an expected reward not received is experienced
as a punishment and can produce extensive and
persistent aggression (Azrin et al, 1966)."


Better get to work: http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u

"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Could Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's And All Dogs,
ALL OVER THE WHOLE WILD WORLD,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.

You GET The Critter You TRAINED

A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.
As A Mass Murder Is A Mass Murderer

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING
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