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1 16th June 11:06
the general
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I have a 3 months old Golden Retriever. She is very smart but she is also
getting head strong. Do any of you have an answer for her wanting to put her
teeth on you? I know she is teething and for the most part she only does
this when she is excited. She is not mad or upset. She is playing. Also she
is all ready 25 lbs. at 3 months old I am disabled so I am having trouble
controlling her at times any suggestions of how to give her an outlet for
her energy?
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2 16th June 11:06
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3 16th June 11:06
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I have a 2 month old Weim and when she wants to 'play' she gets very
excited! I've found that the easiest way to break the teethy games is to ask
her to do something different.

We've been learning basic commands with lure and reward techniques and she
knows 'outside' 'sit', 'come' settle' and 'cage' quite well now, so we do a
quick practice go of these then once her mind has been distracted from her
initial 'wild play' games, I can redirect her play towards a toy that
doesn't mind having need sharp teethies biting in to it!

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4 16th June 11:06
the general
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That sounds helpful. She can already "Set", "Lay down" and "Shake hands".
More work is needed. Thanks for you help.
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5 16th June 11:07
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Hey, welcome to the group. Don't mind all of the off-topic conversation,
we truly are a community here and enjoy hearing about interesting things
goinjg on in each others lives. Jump right in, make yourself at home, and
like in the fairy tales, don't feed the trolls.

At 3 months old, your puppy is nowhere near getting a brain yet.

In addition to what Diana mentioned with the commands, here is another
way to solve the problem. Puppies, when they are playing with each other,
use their teeth a lot. When one of them bites too hard, the other puppies
yelp and ignore the biter. What you want to do is to react the same way
that her siblings/mother would if she bit them too hard. Yell "ouch" in a
loud, high-pitched voice, and ignore her for a couple of minutes. Turn
your body away and don't acknowledge her at all. Eventually, she will
learn that biting results in play stopping.

Another idea that might work (I am not sure) is to, when she bites/nips
at you, give her a toy she *can* chew on, and when she bites it, praise
her.

Yet another trick you can do, is to teach her a command that, when she is
doing it, makes it impossible for her to bite. Stick a bunch of peanut
butter (or cheese whiz) on your finger/palm. While she is licking it off,
tell her "give me a kiss" or "kisses" or something like that. If you do
this often enough, when she starts to bite, you can just say "kisses" and
she should start to lick you instead. One caution if you use this one, is
to make sure that you don't feed her so much pb/cw that she doesn't eat
enough puppy food.

Good Luck.

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6 16th June 11:07
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What worked for me is an oldie but a goodie--yell (really loud) OW! and
totally withdraw from her. Turn your back on her and walk away. After 5-10
minutes return to petting/playing and repeat the OW! until she gets it. She
should quickly learn to keep her little puppy needle-teeth off of your
hand/arms.

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7 16th June 11:07
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HOWEDY lush,

You mean, you got the same same same same PROBLEM, lush.

Works every time, does it? You see any END to ASKIN the
pup to DO SUMPTHIN ELSE???

techniques

You mean, you've been BRIBING the dog and REWARDING
inapupriate behaivors by GIVING TREATS and alternate behaivors.

well now,

So, you've learned to LOCK YOUR DOG in a box to control
her UNDESIRABLE behaviors when offering a treat or bribe
or command for an alternate behavior FAILS to CONTROL the dog.

IOW, you REINFORCE her NEGATIVE ATTENTION GETTING
DEVICES when she mHOWEths on you.

RIGHT!!! Works EVERY TIME, doesn't it. At least till
it DON'T WORK noMOORE and you got to LOCK IT
in a box for a time HOWET.


You've been a liar and a dog abuser, lush. The leopard does
not change his spots. You cannot post here noMOORE.

Can you tell a truth from a lie? Take off your shoes and
socks and see if you can cHOWENT HOWE many LIES
are in the following QUOTES:


And then we got, matty! Follow his discussion!
This is what's called, a liar and dog abuser:


"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This I've Suggested It To Quite
A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY
TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer,
33 Years Experience.

You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for her coment above
regarding her success with The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy
Separation Anxiety / Bed Time Calming Technique (STSA/BTCT)?

Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z, who commented
that his bed time calming technique was quite similar?

"His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.


"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.

You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???

"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.

You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?

"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."

You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
is COURTEOUS?

"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
as possible. What does this mean?"

Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.

"When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time, spray
one squirt
directly into the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog won't be too
thrilled
with this but just ignore him and continue your normal behavior."

You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?

--Mike Dufort
author of the zero selling book
"Courteous Canines"

You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?

Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?

Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?

"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
Grabbed
Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
Leaned On Her,
Smartly Growled Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly
Nipped Her
Ear," sionnach.

Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...

And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
something you twisted out of context,
because you are full of bizarro manure."

"Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
you to progress to striking them more
sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
expert trainer.

You think a E***PERT trainer got to BEAT
a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?

"Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.

Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies HURT all
their lives like HOWE HOWER dog lovers PREFER to
HURT THEIR DOGS?

"John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
rump with a training stick while holding him partially
off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
to the line and cast him back to the dummies."

The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.

We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...

terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."

Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should knee the dog in the
chest, step
on its toes, throw him down by his ears and climb all over it like
a ****d
ape growling into his throat and bite IT on his ears, or leash pop
it on a
pronged spiked pinch choke collar or pop him in the snout with the
heel of your palm.
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You think matty's playin with a full
goddamned deck?

matty's NOT a liar and dog abuser.

Isn't that true, Marilyn?

Of course not, but THIS IS:

"Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap," professora gingold.
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You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"

"I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A
Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single
Cir***stance Ever, Where Slapping A
Dog Is Anything But Destructive,"

LUCKY thing CHIN CHUCK absolutely don't
mean slap the goddamned dog, we'd look like
a conspiracy of LIARS and DOG abusers if
CHIN CHUCK DID mean SLAP the dog.

"I don't see why anyone would want to choke or
beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
a good working dog by making them unhapper,
fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl.

DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH?


Or HOWE about HOWER just plain CRUEL
STUPID and ABUSIVE DOG ABUSERS,
professor SCRUFF SHAKE?

amy lying frosty dahl continues:

"On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
we have trained require much more
frequent and heavy application of pressure
(PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,

This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome

Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
less tractable dogs may require you to
progress to striking them more sharply"

BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE...

"Try pinching the ear between the metal
casing and the collar, even the buckle on
the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"

OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER.

"You can press the dog's ear with a
shotshell instead of your thumb even
get a studded collar and pinch the ear
against that Make the dog's need to stop
the pinching so urgent that resisting your
will fades in importance.

CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
using the stick and no ear pinch.

When the dog is digging out to beat the
stick and seems totally reliable without
any ear pinch, you are finished

This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome"

If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
under the chin, say "No! Hold!"

(stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
because the ear is getting tender, or the
dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
frosty dahl.

"Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
professora gingold.
From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
In article <38CC0C43.94E2DDD1@earthlink.net> rhurwitz@earthlink.net writes:

Please try Powell's Books in Portland
Oregon. Their URL is:

http://www.powells.com/

Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
new and used books on its shelves. You
can order books via e-email.

Koehler Method Of Dog
Training
by Koehler, W R
Published by HOWELL BOOK
HOUSE (0876056575,

================================================== ======

Here's some quotes and some methods right
outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream "NO!"
into its
face for 5
seconds:"

"The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."

Hanging

"First, the trainer makes certain that the collar
and leash are more than adequate for any jerk
or strain that the dog's most frantic actions could cause. Then
he starts
to work the dog deliberately and fairly to the point where the dog
makes his
grab.

Before the teeth have reached their target,
the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from
the ground.

As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems the dog is
suspended
in mid-air.

However, to let the biting dog recover
his footing while he still had the strength
to renew the attack would be cruelty.

The only justifiable course is to hold him
suspended until he has neither the strength
nor inclination to renew the fight.

When finally it is obvious that he is
physically incapable of expressing his
resentment and is lowered to the ground,
he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
over on his side.

The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
let it alarm you

THE REAL "HOOD"

"If your dog is a real "hood" who would
regard the foregoing types of protest as
"kid stuff" and would express his
resentment of your efforts by biting,
your problem is difficult -- and pressing.

"Professional trainers often get these
extreme problems. Nearly always the
"protest biter" is the handiwork of a
person who, by avoiding situations that
the dog might resent, has nurtured the
seeds of rebellion and then cultivated
the resultant growth with under correction.

When these people reap their inevitable
and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
trainer" whose advice they may have
once rejected because it was incompatible
with the sugary droolings of mealy-
mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
and dog psychologists who, by the
broken skins and broken hearts their
misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
since the dawn of time.

"With more genuine compassion for the
biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
by those who are "too kind" to make a
correction and certainly with more disregard
for his safety, the professional trainer
morally feels obligated to perform a "major
operation."

"Since we are presently concerned with
the dog that bites in resentment of the
demands of training, we will set our
example in that situation. (In a later
chapter we will deal with the with the
much easier problem of the dog that
bites someone other than his master."

Are we havin FUN yet?

Got a lite, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?

The Puppy Wizard. <} ; ~ ) >
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8 16th June 11:07
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HOWEDY The General,

Head strong? You mean, she's stubborn? Dogs are
only stubborn when we ask them to do things they
don't understand or aren't willing to do because they're
not motivated or afraid to try.

Yeah. MHOWEthing is an attempt to BOND. The "traditional"
ways of dealing with mHOWEthing is to REJECT or IGNORE
the dog's BONDING attempts. Squealing and turning your
back on the dog or giving an alternate incompatible behavior
are the standard recommended ineffective, inapupriate, tactics.

Repressing behaviors or offering substitute behaviors or
bribes only reinforces the behavior or changes it to other,
seemingly non related, often worse behaviors, or trains
the dog to DO the unwanted behaviors to elicit the treat or replacement behaviors.

Right, which takes the mHOWEthing HOWETA the TEETHING
category, and into the aspect of NEGATIVE ATTENTION GETTING
behaviors, or BONDING, if you will.

INDEEDY. So, you might engage the pup to reinforce his
BONDING attempts and then change the behavior to
something acceptable. OR, you could distract and praise
the BONDING attempts and allHOWE his next choice of
behavior to replace the undesirable BONDING attempts.

You mean, you're having trouble forcing control of her.
THAT'S HOWE COME she's "STUBBORN."


Yeah. Her "energy" is ANXIETY, not normal puppy play.
Giving her and HOWEtlet for her ANXIETY will not break
the CAUSE of the ANXIETY, BUT WILL REINFORCE
HER NEED for an HOWEtlet. HOWER dog lovers engage
their dogs in EXCESSIVE EXERCISE to tire the dog in an
illigitimate effort to expiate their ANXIETY BEHAVIORS.

That only works so long as you can CONTINUE to EXERCISE
the ANXIETY HOWETA the dog. After a few minutes rest, the
dog is up and eager for MOORE exercise to control his ANXIETY.


You won't be gettin no advice from HOWER E***PERTS here.
HOWER dog lovers are predominantely LIARS and DOG ABUSERS
and ACTIVE MENTAL PATIENTS who only understand repression
and avoidance and HURTING dogs for their behaviors they do not
know HOWE to control, and locking dogs in boxes and tryin to get
HOWET callin THAT, training.

HOWER dog lovers call these posters FORGERIES cause they
all sHOWEND like The Puppy Wizard wrote them HISSELF:

From: Becky (BeckySiz@new.rr.com)
Subject: Re: Crate Anxiety
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Date: 2002-04-04 12:56:23 PST

Try Jerry Howe's training manual and check out his Doggy
Do Right (And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did And A ****atoo
Or Two Did Too) machine....it is for this.

Please do not listen to the others in here that don't like
him or his methods, they have never tried them....I have
and it works!!!!

I broke my dog from nipping almost 100% in 1 day and
she usually does this SEVERAL times a day and actually
makes my kids bleed!

Try it or contact him! The manual is at the above website
also, and it is free!

Becky

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From: Paul Bousie
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: Geday.


Hey J,

I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same
old crappy advice and misunderstanding of the
only advice worth reading.

The problem with your method J is that I can't
answer the questions on the NG no more, people
are after a quick fix, they don't want to understand
that dog training requires a disiplined method, I'm
now really understanding that they are all result
orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to
stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they
want to stamp out each anxiety one at a time not
realising they create a new one as they deal with the last.

I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they
don't even realise the errors of thier ways and
they arn't self thinkers, they follow the majority,
after all if everyone says thats the way then it
must be. I've finally realised people don't want
to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog,
they want a little puppet that sits and stays and
downs and does all the nice doggy stuff or so
they think, then when the dog acts like a dog
they come squealing to the NG asking how to
stop the dog being a dog.

I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind
that I think demonstrates the way we approach
dog training. Imagine lots of little circles all in a
cluster, each one representing a dog anxiety or
behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents
something about the dog, all of them create what
a dog is.

The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out
the "bad" circles, try to eliminate as many as you
can, problem is each one you stamp out another
takes it's place (anxiety circles can't be destroyed
they just change), obviously it's a futile exercise,
but thats the traditional way.

Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds
all the small circles, this big circle is the whole dog,
that's what we get hold of with all the little circles
inside, we don't see the little circles we see the BIG
circle the macro as you put it and use that to train.

I laugh now when I see posts critisising you, they
are critising something they don't even understand
or even have the capacity to understand.

See ya,

Paul =====================
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----- Original Message -----
From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo

Aloha Jerry,

Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders. I have not had a
shredded sheet for over a week now. It is nice
to be able to leave the bed made and come home
to a made bed.

Your program is awesome, but you already know
that. Keep up the good work!

Hoku

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JERRY SAVE THIS LAD!!!!

or it could be a troll <are you a troll??
do not use it on your dog.....

would you use it on your best friend.....

I have read jerry's book, it seems too easy at first.
however I started to use some of the training out of it and now.

I have a dog that heels as fast as a collie in a
trial.<great dane X mastiff

I have a dog that stays and never leaves the spot.

I have a dog that comes when ever I call.

I have a dog that never leaves the yard, never runs away.

I have a dog that stands still to be washed
with the cold hose.

I have a dog that never pulls on
the lead when we walk.

I have a dog that puts up with more abuse then a
dog should from my 2 year old <and loves it

I have a dog that barks at the fence only when some ones there.

I have a dog that would not care less if there is
another dog in the park <only wants to be with and
please me though a lot of this is due to me training the dog
spending the time with the dog.

jerry's book showed me not to punish the dog. but
just to work with the dog. which I liked the idea of
hence why I tried it. it is easy to become frustrated
with a dog when you are trying to train them.
I look forward to my next puppy <ban dog> so
I can use the information from jerry's book
and see just how good a dog can get.

the dog I have now was when I picked her up from
the RSPCA. she could not walk on a lead <no idea.
cowered from every noise <and wet her self, messed
in the house at every turn. acted like I was killing her
when I dragged her over to the mess.

this was A 6 month old pup that had been beaten
<2.5 feet to the shoulder. I could of taken her back
however I knew I could bring her back to being to
be a dog.

the dog I have now at 1.5 years <same dog is a dog
to be proud to walk down the street with <3 feet to
the shoulder and still growing.

so well behaved even when people walk passed with
a out of control dog. gentle with my child and trustworthy
< I never have to worry that my dog will bite her, only
have to worry if a stranger comes over to my child.
still that is not a worry, she places herself between my
child and the stranger.

I may be plugging jerry's book, however with the
crap out there it is good to see that someone has
moved forward. looked at a different way to train
dogs. yes he gets into people, and in their face
you should back off a little jerry however he is
sick of the bashing, choking, shocking, shaking
and everything else. so jerry save this lad from
ruining his dog. later, Joe

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"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie_wilkes@easynews.com wrote
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I read up on rotties, pitbulls, etc., and quite a
bit of the literature suggested I needed to assert
my dominance and "make the dog earn everything it
gets."

I tried this once or twice, just by taking a stern
tone of voice, and the results were terrible.
The pup got scared and just wanted to stay away from
me.

That's why I support Jerry Howe and his FREE
Wits' End Dog Training manual -- that and the fact
that Jerry is an all-around great guy.

The core takeaway I got from Jerry's manual is this:
make yourself the center of your puppy's world -
- his personal Lord Jesus. Never give him a reason
to fear you or think you're angry. Love the heck
out of him, and you'll end up with a great dog.

This has truly worked with my puppy. She'll do
anything I want her to, if she understands, because
she trusts me 100 percent, and nothing is more
important in her world than her relationship
with me. http://www.geocities.com/viscouspuppy
Charlie

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"I know that most men, including those at ease with
problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept
even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would
oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they
have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly
taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by
thread, into the fabric of their lives."
-Leo Tolstoy-

Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated
more complaints to my personal email than any other
controversial post I have made to date, bar none?:

CAVEAT
If you have to do things to your dog to train him that you
would rather not have to do, then you shouldn't be doing
them. If you have a dog trainer who tells you to jerk your
dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes,
shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, chin cuff, scruff shake or
punish your dog in any manner, that corrections
are appropriate, that the dog won't think of you as the
punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they
can't train your dog to do what you want, look for a
trainer that knows HOWE.

Thank you,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
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problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who
come after. Who ever can't hit the nail on the head
should, please, not hit at all.
-Nietzsche-

The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are
learned qualities.

The Wits' End Dog Training Method challenges the learning
centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged,
develop and continue to grow to make him smarter.

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praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and
timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant
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HOWEDY krisHURT,

What works for you is choking and shocking your dogs.


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HOWEDY marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog abuser phd
psychoclHOWEN,


Yeah. You flunked puppy class and your dog grHOWELS at you
when you bring in the newspaper. Your dog grHOWELED at your
brother for two weeks when he visitied you, cause he resembles you.


That's all you and your lying dog abusing Punk Thug Coward
pals are good for, marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog abuser phd psychoclHOWEN.


You can't post here noMOORE, marcel the imbecile idiot liar
dog abuser phd psychoclHOWEN.

others lives.

This forum is abHOWET DOG BEHAVIOR, not chit chat abHOWET
your goddamned hairdresser, marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog abuser phd psychoclHOWEN.


This is The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Forum, marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog abuser phd psychoclHOWEN.


You mean, the folks who DON'T HURT DOGS to train them,
marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog abuser phd psychyoclHOWEN?


You're a idiot, marcel. There's no reason a three month old pup
can't be performing at CD level. YOU FLUNKED puppy class
cause YOU HURT YOUR DOG.


You mean lush. She's a liar and dog abuser like yourself,
except she doesn't tell folks to put mHOWEstraps in the
garden to HURT a passing dog being walked indiscriminately
on lead, like you did.


What COMMANDS? lush BRIBES and LURES and LOCKS
HER DOG in a box, like you and marie and nessa do...

Yeah. That's HOWE bullies become bullies, cause
they learn that HURTING the others gets a big response.

You mean, act like a feral dog, instead of an intelligent human being?


That'll likely overstimulate the puppy, marcel the imbecile idiot
liar dog abuser phd psychoclHOWEN.


As a phd, would you agree that "YELPIN HOWECH!" and turning
your back is NOT IGNORING the behavior, marcel the imbecile?


To encourage the dog to TRY HARDER, marcel the imbecile idiot?


You mean, after you've REWARDED the dog by "YELPIN HOWEch?"


You mean, instead of NEARLY INSTANTLY as REPORTED by
The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Students, marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog abuser phd psychoclHOWEN?

Oh? You mean, as a REWARD for nippin, marcel the imbecile
idiot liar dog abuser phdpsychoclHOWEN?


So, any time the dog wants to get your 100% undivided attention,
all she's got to do is come over and bit you to get you to give IT
a toy or cookie, marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog abuser phd psychoclHOWEN?


The Puppy Wizard doesn't teach TRICKS, marcel the imbecile
idiot liar dog abuser phd psychoclHOWEN.

Oh. You mean, to IGNORE the puppy? Or to REWARD the puppy?
You can't have it BOTH WAYS, marcle the IMBECILE.

finger/palm.

That'll be a NICE REWARD for biting...

HOWE abHOWET just sayin here's a treat?

NOT unless you have MOORE cheese, marcel the IDIOT.


You're a IDIOT.


Dog trainin ain't LUCK, marcel the IMBECILE IDIOT LIAR DOG ABUSER phd psychoclHOWEN.

------Message -----
From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression

Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do
almost anything to get your approach out
to dog owners as I know it would save so
many lives.

I know at times I was so frustrated I thought
of giving up on Sunshine but of course I
never would have but many people would
have. The world just does not know you can
train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.

We will be here until late April and we really
have no plans--just to enjoy the warmth and
sun of Florida, so any time you could meet
us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!

We went to Celebration today and two little
poodles got right into his face and he just sat
there--I GOT a little scared but he handled it
just fine.--a couple of times people would ask
his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them
rub his tummy.

He really just is not concerned about people
passing, even those on rollerblades! I have
always used a gentle leader in public but he
spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so
much happier!!

Only problem is he will stop to smell and I
can not get stopped soon enough to keep
the leash loose. He never pulled ahead of
me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I
think he could smell a blade of grass for
10 minutes.

I can never thank you enough for giving
Sunshine back!!!!!

I wrote to Purdue and told them about him
being able to walk in a crowd with out the
/gentle leader and not having a problem with
other people and dogs.

I told them their advice did not work. Their
advice was to use the gentle leader at all
times and when he was around people or
dogs to have him sit and reward with treats-
-one really good suggestions was to have
people coming toward us stop when he got
stressed or aroused and not move until we
backed away-

- can you just see me yelling at people to
stop on the street until I get his attention
with treats.

They also suggested the possibility of using
drugs-prozac- but thought he was too
dangerous as the drug would make him
less fearful and then he might attack or
become more sure of himself and become
dominate aggressive.

Just had to share their great advice with
you but I am sure you have heard it all-
-even I am becoming an expert on bad advice. =======================================
"Linda" <llindaleedaniel@msn.com> wrote in message news:3c317fe4.0301072210.7f7ef069@posting.google.c om...

You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got
Sunshine DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.


===================

--------Original Post-----------
From: Linda
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: dog aggression -
Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Will try it today and post how well this
system works. We went to a dog class
that I had enrolled in for resocialization-
-getting him to not lunge and try to attack
every dog he sees, we were at the third
class and I forgot the Halti but he was
relaxed and had no problem with any of
the seven dogs-

-in the past he would shake and after a
little while turn away from the dogs and
look at the wall. Saturday he wanted to
play with the dogs--he actually pulled
toward the dogs- kinda jumped around
like he use to do before he became
aggressive- when he got close to another
dog.

Teacher was impressed with him but thought
it was from her class--I didn't tell her anything
different-she had tried but it sure was not working.

Today on our walk a dog went by and he
alerted but did not move toward the dog
and when I called him he actually came
with his tail wagging and forget about the dog.

I have told everyone I see about your dog
training--all my friends and neighbors know
I have been so worried and frustrated with
Sunshine's behavior-infact some would turn
around and go the other way so as not to get
close to us.

If people knew how easy it could be to get
a dog to come and listen to you there would
be a lot less dogs in shelters.

I know I didn't know what to do and was
afraid I would have to kill him if he bite
someone even though I loved him so
much.

================================

Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression -
Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

Sunshine is still acting like a new dog!

Saw a dog today and "good boy-" worked
along with calling him-came the first time
every time. Not even a sound out of him.

Think it is hard for him but he never even
seemed to think about going off-reacting.

The word come has no affect on him just
the phrase--Sunshine come goodboy.

===================================

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 7:17 PM
To:
Subject: Re: dog aggression -
Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression
HOWEDY Professora Daniel,


Yup. You've got to generalize the come
command to make it 100% reliable.

MISTAKES ARE GOOD. You want him to
make a few mistakes so we can get the
sound associated with the command.


O.K. You know to do the HOT & Cold and
Family Leadership Exercises and you'll have
a perfect come command in a couple fif**** minute sessions.


Excellent. We discussed his penchant for
eating leaves and dirt off the ground.

PERFECT. Next time you'll probably not need
the sound. Just remember to vary the origin
of the sound each time, day in to day out, the sequence never breaks.


You'll tell him GOOD BOY and prepare to
make the sound and praise if he continues
looking, and if that fails, you'll ask him to
come, keeping in mind the sequence of the
commands with sound and the distract/praise
techniques.

You'll get used to thinking that fast in a
couple more days, no problem.

Yes, it takes a bit of a knack to get it just right,
but if you fail, not to worry, you'll be able to get
it right the next time. We don't lose points for
"do overs" as long as we get the pup under
control fast and EZ.

That's HOWE COME that dependable come
command is so necessary.


Yes, I recommended you may want a friend
to help because of your disability.

Right. Should be about a second between
requests and the sounds on the second and
fourth commands and move off into the FPLX
if that fails, and continue the technique. EZ, huh???

Yeah, I don't know if you're able, but do try
to handle the lead exactly as instructed.

It'll feel uncomfortable for a few days, but
we don't want that lead tangling and
accidentally pullin on him.

Psst! If you've got fair strength in your hands,
let me do the worrying for you... O.K.?


Well, you know I told you it was the overcontrol
of the lead that triggers positive thigmotaxis, the opposition reflex.


That ALWAYS works. All my Mrs. got to do
is tell me good boy and I'll do anything she
asks. Hey? I think I just figgered out HOWE
COME she always gets her way with me...


Any sound will suffice, even an extraneous
and coincidentally but well timed sound will
work, maybe even BETTER.


WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING!


Naaah. There's nobody that has such fast
EZ safe gentle methods. I'll be on TV soon
enough with my Doggy Do Right (And Kitty
Will And A Rooster Did And A ****atoo Or
Two Did Too) machine.

But that's just gonna give me the floor to
discuss the state of the art of the animal
behavior industry.

Would you do me a favor? If you're on
the internet, I'd sure appreciate it if you'd
repost this to the groups, a lot of people
are saying terrible things about me and
tellin folks reports like yours, are FORGERIES
by ME.

Thank you for being a good student.

Yours, Jerry.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:24 PM
To:
Subject: Re: dog aggression

Dog training isn't LUCK. You'll do perfect
or I'll get the heel outta this business...
Yours, Jerry.

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression


Will let you know how it goes!!!--thanks
for the encouragement

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: dog aggression
HOWEDY Professora Daniel,


Me too, but not with your problem. This one's EZ!

He's gonna be EZ. He's not even thinking
about you when he bites. He's just overexcited
trying to PROTECT you.

That'll diminish immediately through simply
handling the lead properly, gettin the control
and attention through the praise conditioning,
and distract/praising his aggressive thoughts
before he gets out of control. EZ stuff.

Sound/praise and repeat as necessary.
Just remember to always vary the direction
the sound comes from. You might need a
helper to produce the alternate sounds in time.


In a couple days that'll cause him to come back to you.


He'll straighten out in a couple days of EZ work.

Yes, but he wasn't conscious of YOU, he's
in a fury protecting you.

Excellent. You'll be able to handle him EZ like that.

That would complicate and slow things down.


In a couple days you'll have the control
to stop him after he's started.

That was predictable!


At least he's consistent. That's GOOD!

Of course. He sounds PERFECT. This is
the kind of dog I'd go out of my way to get for myself...

Yeah, kinda like me...


You're gonna be EZ.

He sounds like a great dog!


He'll learn the same manners when in pubic.

We'll fix him up in a couple days of EZ work.

Pssst! It's already in the bag...

Not to worry, that'll be past history in a couple days.


It is. Just follow the techniques and ask me
if you need any help. I've got all kinds of fast
EZ solutions for any problem you could encounter.

Everything you've tried has relied on bribes force and confrontation.


And instead of trying to force him to stay in
control, you'll PRAISE his first aggressive
thought and he'll move in close to YOU to
protect you, not charge at others.

He'll learn FAST that you want the aggression
and he'll want to use it BEST for YOU, so he'll
do EVERY THING you ask the first time.

I'd LOVE to have a hundred dogs just like him today.

Right, but here again, you're relying on
some degree of force to control him. That
will ALWAYS trigger the OPPOSITE of
what we want, telling him to be aggressive,
not to pay attention to you and your safety.

Once he sees THAT, you're gonna need a
shoe horn to PRY him AWAY from you.

In fact, when you WANT him to attack someone
all you'll have to do is let him see someone and
gently pull back on his collar without sayin nuthin,
and that'll set him off...

Good, that'll make it REAL EZ to teach him my methods.

Fine. We'll forget the treats and use the
click differently for our puporses.

CONGRATULATIONS in advance...


No need to. It's already DONE.


Do me a favor? If you could keep a record of our
discussions and your work with your pup, and
send it in to the news groups I participate in, it'd
be a great benefit and inspiration for others in the
same or similar situations.

Welcome to Wits' End Dog Training.

Yours, Jerry.

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