report dog abuse

You think she's makin it up?

She LIVES WITH THEM, janet.

You mean as opposed to abuse, like shocking and kicking the dog
AS STATED by the OP, janet.

Is it, janet? Is it as SAD as you chokin shockin and murderin dogs, janet?

Your own DEAD DOGS got flattened by a car in front of
your HOWES and your other DEAD DOG croaked in 104F heat
on accHOWENT of IT didn't want to come inside and be
LOCKED IN A BOX in the air conditioning.

Hey? You remember when you shocked choked and murdered
that little innocent DEAD DOG in "interested in hearing," janet?

You mean, on accHOWENT of you wouldn't want to GET CAUGHT
calling the heat on a family member?

You mean instead of TEACHIN them HOWE to puppely handle
and train the dog, janet?

PERHAPS she could offer to PAY to have the dog MURDERED at your shelter, eh janet?

INDEED?

You mean, like THIS?:
"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040324071828.07753.00000001@mb-m18.aol.com...

"sionnach" <rhyfe...@msn.com> wrote in message news:c3qi15$2biuoh$1@ID-45033.news.uni-berlin.de...

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

Subject: Re: Video clip......."Nero" practicing bark alert,
while walking backwards
Date: 2004-06-05 18:53:50 PST

"micha el" <spam_yurs...@spamyourmamma.co**m wrote in message
news: yIydnZpPsIzg6l_d4p2...@comcast.com...

Anyway, contrary to your PR, this is what
it felt like to me when I got shocked by
Hope's collar.

It felt like a bomb going off in my
hand and forearm.

"Tricia9999" <tricia9...@aol.com wrote in message news: 20021117101433.10365.00000...@mb-cg.aol.com...

Some run through it. Others get shocked and become
too scared to go out in the yard anymore.

Just heard of a guy that has to rehome his dog,
because the dog got caught right in the path of
the shock and will now not go near his person,
won't go outside.

Just hides under a desk in the house.

------------------------------**----

Jerking choking and shockin and lockin dogs
in boxes and ignoring their cries makes their
dogs go "EWWWW" but they don't NOTICE
EXXXCEPT to spray BINACA in their eyes
and jerk and choke them on pronged spiked
pinch choke collars and shock and spray MOORE
aversives in their faces.

Do you think the citronella collar is CRUEL cause
the SMELL LINGERS after the dog's been sprayed
in the face and the dog won't know HOWE COME IT was MACED?

They're DUMB ANIMALS these MENTALLY ILL
LYING DOG ABUSERS HURT and MURDER.

These dogs are SAFER with J.Q. Pubic than dog lovers.
At least they'll be shot on sight or murdered in a animal
control center, instead of jerked and choked and shocked
by dog abusing cowards who make their livin off of MISEREY
PAIN FEAR and DEATH.

"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.
"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshu...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:McYnb.45145$ao4.106231@attbi_s51...

"Things are beginning to get much worse day
by day and the vets seem unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR**ufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR**ufusSmall.WMV"

THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES
and ASYLUM ESCAPEES.

Here is a video from Fred which I have a few concerns
about (and maybe Fred can weigh in if he sees fit), THE
SAME "FRED" that johnny would invite to heelp his
shelter dogs learn RESPECT.

This is a video about Nero being taught to get on
a skateboard.

http://www.studioonline.com/pl**ayvi...84B9ABD**FCE0F

or

http://tinyurl.com/389al

In this video, the dog is constantly jerking his
head all around. I'm not SHORE why he's doing that.
If he's doing it because he is being shocked repeatedly
into getting onto that skateboard, then it is my
opinion that Fred Hassen is a dog abuser in the
extreme. As would anyone be, no matter how much
"experience" they had shocking dogs, nor how
nationally "respected" they are/were.

If, HOWEver, the dog is jerking his head all around
because he is happy and for no other reason, well,
then, never mind. I've just never seen this kind of
behavior from a dog before, so maybe Fred can
explain what would cause a dog to move his head
like that.

"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosma...@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20 ginge...@my-deja.com wrote:

Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use. Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars. At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."

8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled).

If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.

This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer." Lynn K.

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer."

Lynn K.
------------------------------*---

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.

Lynn K.

"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
every adoptable dog on intake. I frankly felt that the
effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.

Should I have refused to groom them?

Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."

Lynn K.

Baghdad Bob <Baghdadbob wrote in message
<news: 04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@TeraNews...

Lynn, looks like he got you there if these
quotes are true.

In the posts below you take responsibility for
making those calls.

In your post above, you state you do not
make those calls.

Which one is it?

-------------------

WORDS OF WISDOM
from our own Lynn Kosmakos
1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day
For Twenty Years

I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM

"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-
depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50
mg of Zoloft every day.

I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to
learn more, while happily sharing pertinent
information I have learned. But if I were ever
to post such sh*t, I would hope that every other
reader of this group would be rightfully outraged."

"Community is an evolutionary thing that we
earn the right to participate in by observing
the easily understood rules and contributing
to in constructive ways."

Lynn K.

------------------------------*-----------

"It wasn't that meds didn't work for her
- she wouldn't take them. I particularly remember
a comment she made about scarey side effects of
Lithium. Hardly. After 17 years on it, I think
I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of
any side effect is far less frightening than the
very real dangers of life without it." Lynn K.

BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

THAT'S sumpthin to be PR-HOWED abHOWET, eh matty?

Subject: Re: OT Cat "Accentuate The Positive."
Date: 2002-07-23 23:06:04 PST HOWEDY janet,
"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20020723204158.27450.00000335@mb-mj.aol.com...

The kat is reacting to janet punishing her dogs.

That's HOWE COME she's taken the kat to the NEUROLOGIST.

You don't see that as playing you off cause the only thing
you can think about is guarding your food bowl.

The kat is exhibiting OCD behavior just as our pal professor
lying doc SCRUFF SHAKE and scream NO into its face for
5 seconds dermer's little magnificient masturbator Maxie
does, from being punished.

Because the NEUROLOGIST isn't a behaviorIST and
the behaviorists don't know enough about behavior to
recognize that OCD behaviors are caused by MISHANDLING.

So we won't be poppin the kat on the snout noMOORE.

Take away the valium and the kat will go back to biting you
when you punish the dogs or scold her, janet.

She's grateful you've mutilated and intimidated her.

Yeah? What's the NEUROLOGIST say her prognosis is? I
hear she's got a brain tumor...

DUH-OH! Doesn't that suggest the stress of janet being
a psychopath is what's causing the "seizure" acitivity???

Because the kat is SCARED TO DEATH janet.

She's normally frightened and suspicious of you, cause
you're a freakin psychopath.

Perhaps some of that play would lace you open if you
hadn't pulled her claws out for her.

Because she's nearly flat lining on the goddamned valium janet.
That shit can really tear up your liver.

You mean her attack kat behavior when you punish your dogs
and correct her for bothering you.

Once again alison, try to figger it out. Puttin the kat down
or hiding the food or using barriers, fear, force, restriction
avoidance and intimidation are what perpetuates these
behavior problems as they called NEGATIVE ATTENTION
GETTING TECHNIQUES. That's all taught about in your
FREE copy of my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual.

You're trying to teach gentle behavior and establish love
and trust by slappin your kat around?

Who is being persistent? Takes two to Tango, janet.
My students don't have this kind of behavior problem
cause the last thing we want to do is challenge or
provoke our animals cause that's HOWE you'd get
bitten and end up KILLIN the animal TO BE FAIR janet.

That's a rpdb CONVENTION, People. Our anima lovers
won't hesitate to kill a dog that scares them when they
hurt confront punish intimidate frighten beat choke shock
and slap scruff shake and chin CHUCK their animals in
accordance with university behaviorISSST approval.

Well, as the MonkeysOfNotSoNewSkeete sez, when you
got to hit your animal if you don't make it SCREAM you
didn't hit it hard enough to impress it and will likely make
it aggressive on you.

Right. Except for your goddamned kat is attacking
you when you punish your dogs. Lucky thing you
took her claws out so she can't scratch your
eyeballs out like she'd LOVE to when you get
psychotic on the dogs.

Yeah. What's your goddamned koehler book say about
giving an effective corrections, janet? You know ineffective
corrections only reinforce bad behaviors, don't you agree
janet? I expect EVERY trainer here will agree to that, janet.

You lying dog abusing Thugs like to try to diminish the degree
of pain and fear you inflict when you shock jerk choke beat
and intimidate your animals.

What happened to EFFECTIVE CORRECTIONS?

You can't have it both ways janet.

You think so alison? You think physically and emotionally
punishing and alienating a fearful critter is the best thing
to do? I suppose, cause you've also said killin animals
is the best thing to do when you run outta ideas and information, alison.

Is that so? You couldn't prove it by leah's and liea's
and mary and nessa's and janet's and tara o'sdogs,
just to mention a few of the regular lying dog abusing
Thugs who've had major long term temperament and
behavior problems as a direct result of this kind of IDIOCY alison.

That's curious. Kats are smarter than dogs.

Yeah. HOWE'S Franklin recuperating from his
abdominal surgery from eatin your dirty shorts
as I WARNED you would happen because of
HOWE you was training him back in January?

AS EVIDENCED BY YOUR PSYCHO KAT.

EXACTLY! That's HOWE COME we got to identify and
expose you and your vicious lying coward dog abusing
Gang Of Thugs.

All that and then some, janet. Stick around.

Because you was fixin to kill her for biting you.

Yeah. I hope you're not taking advantage of the
shelter in your medical treatment of a behavior
problem you cause by punishing your animals,
janet.

Yeah. And I'll throw you into the middle of next year
when I drop the hammer on you.

You're finished in the shelter and training business janet.
Your student nessa is gonna make you the laughinstock
of rpdb just like carol levy did for good ol booby maida
and his credit of course all goes to the world famous
captain arthur haggerty, trainer of the world famous
uncle matty.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAAAA!!!

The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >

You think she's makin it up?

She LIVES WITH THEM, janet.

You mean as opposed to abuse, like shocking and kicking the dog
AS STATED by the OP, janet.

Is it, janet? Is it as SAD as you chokin shockin and murderin dogs, janet?

Your own DEAD DOGS got flattened by a car in front of
your HOWES and your other DEAD DOG croaked in 104F heat
on accHOWENT of IT didn't want to come inside and be
LOCKED IN A BOX in the air conditioning.

Hey? You remember when you shocked choked and murdered
that little innocent DEAD DOG in "interested in hearing," janet?

You mean, on accHOWENT of you wouldn't want to GET CAUGHT
calling the heat on a family member?

You mean instead of TEACHIN them HOWE to puppely handle
and train the dog, janet?

PERHAPS she could offer to PAY to have the dog MURDERED at your shelter, eh janet?

INDEED?

You mean, like THIS?:
"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040324071828.07753.00000001@mb-m18.aol.com...

"sionnach" <rhyfe...@msn.com> wrote in message news:c3qi15$2biuoh$1@ID-45033.news.uni-berlin.de...

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

Subject: Re: Video clip......."Nero" practicing bark alert,
while walking backwards
Date: 2004-06-05 18:53:50 PST

"micha el" <spam_yurs...@spamyourmamma.co**m wrote in message
news: yIydnZpPsIzg6l_d4p2...@comcast.com...

Anyway, contrary to your PR, this is what
it felt like to me when I got shocked by
Hope's collar.

It felt like a bomb going off in my
hand and forearm.

"Tricia9999" <tricia9...@aol.com wrote in message news: 20021117101433.10365.00000...@mb-cg.aol.com...

Some run through it. Others get shocked and become
too scared to go out in the yard anymore.

Just heard of a guy that has to rehome his dog,
because the dog got caught right in the path of
the shock and will now not go near his person,
won't go outside.

Just hides under a desk in the house.

------------------------------**----

Jerking choking and shockin and lockin dogs
in boxes and ignoring their cries makes their
dogs go "EWWWW" but they don't NOTICE
EXXXCEPT to spray BINACA in their eyes
and jerk and choke them on pronged spiked
pinch choke collars and shock and spray MOORE
aversives in their faces.

Do you think the citronella collar is CRUEL cause
the SMELL LINGERS after the dog's been sprayed
in the face and the dog won't know HOWE COME IT was MACED?

They're DUMB ANIMALS these MENTALLY ILL
LYING DOG ABUSERS HURT and MURDER.

These dogs are SAFER with J.Q. Pubic than dog lovers.
At least they'll be shot on sight or murdered in a animal
control center, instead of jerked and choked and shocked
by dog abusing cowards who make their livin off of MISEREY
PAIN FEAR and DEATH.

"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.
"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshu...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:McYnb.45145$ao4.106231@attbi_s51...

"Things are beginning to get much worse day
by day and the vets seem unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR**ufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR**ufusSmall.WMV"

THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES
and ASYLUM ESCAPEES.

Here is a video from Fred which I have a few concerns
about (and maybe Fred can weigh in if he sees fit), THE
SAME "FRED" that johnny would invite to heelp his
shelter dogs learn RESPECT.

This is a video about Nero being taught to get on
a skateboard.

http://www.studioonline.com/pl**ayvi...84B9ABD**FCE0F

or

http://tinyurl.com/389al

In this video, the dog is constantly jerking his
head all around. I'm not SHORE why he's doing that.
If he's doing it because he is being shocked repeatedly
into getting onto that skateboard, then it is my
opinion that Fred Hassen is a dog abuser in the
extreme. As would anyone be, no matter how much
"experience" they had shocking dogs, nor how
nationally "respected" they are/were.

If, HOWEver, the dog is jerking his head all around
because he is happy and for no other reason, well,
then, never mind. I've just never seen this kind of
behavior from a dog before, so maybe Fred can
explain what would cause a dog to move his head
like that.

"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosma...@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20 ginge...@my-deja.com wrote:

Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use. Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars. At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."

8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled).

If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.

This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer." Lynn K.

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer."

Lynn K.
------------------------------*---

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.

Lynn K.

"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
every adoptable dog on intake. I frankly felt that the
effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.

Should I have refused to groom them?

Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."

Lynn K.

Baghdad Bob <Baghdadbob wrote in message
<news: 04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@TeraNews...

Lynn, looks like he got you there if these
quotes are true.

In the posts below you take responsibility for
making those calls.

In your post above, you state you do not
make those calls.

Which one is it?

-------------------

WORDS OF WISDOM
from our own Lynn Kosmakos
1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day
For Twenty Years

I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM

"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-
depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50
mg of Zoloft every day.

I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to
learn more, while happily sharing pertinent
information I have learned. But if I were ever
to post such sh*t, I would hope that every other
reader of this group would be rightfully outraged."

"Community is an evolutionary thing that we
earn the right to participate in by observing
the easily understood rules and contributing
to in constructive ways."

Lynn K.

------------------------------*-----------

"It wasn't that meds didn't work for her
- she wouldn't take them. I particularly remember
a comment she made about scarey side effects of
Lithium. Hardly. After 17 years on it, I think
I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of
any side effect is far less frightening than the
very real dangers of life without it." Lynn K.

BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

THAT'S sumpthin to be PR-HOWED abHOWET, eh matty?

Subject: Re: OT Cat "Accentuate The Positive."
Date: 2002-07-23 23:06:04 PST HOWEDY janet,
"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20020723204158.27450.00000335@mb-mj.aol.com...

The kat is reacting to janet punishing her dogs.

That's HOWE COME she's taken the kat to the NEUROLOGIST.

You don't see that as playing you off cause the only thing
you can think about is guarding your food bowl.

The kat is exhibiting OCD behavior just as our pal professor
lying doc SCRUFF SHAKE and scream NO into its face for
5 seconds dermer's little magnificient masturbator Maxie
does, from being punished.

Because the NEUROLOGIST isn't a behaviorIST and
the behaviorists don't know enough about behavior to
recognize that OCD behaviors are caused by MISHANDLING.

So we won't be poppin the kat on the snout noMOORE.

Take away the valium and the kat will go back to biting you
when you punish the dogs or scold her, janet.

She's grateful you've mutilated and intimidated her.

Yeah? What's the NEUROLOGIST say her prognosis is? I
hear she's got a brain tumor...

DUH-OH! Doesn't that suggest the stress of janet being
a psychopath is what's causing the "seizure" acitivity???

Because the kat is SCARED TO DEATH janet.

She's normally frightened and suspicious of you, cause
you're a freakin psychopath.

Perhaps some of that play would lace you open if you
hadn't pulled her claws out for her.

Because she's nearly flat lining on the goddamned valium janet.
That shit can really tear up your liver.

You mean her attack kat behavior when you punish your dogs
and correct her for bothering you.

Once again alison, try to figger it out. Puttin the kat down
or hiding the food or using barriers, fear, force, restriction
avoidance and intimidation are what perpetuates these
behavior problems as they called NEGATIVE ATTENTION
GETTING TECHNIQUES. That's all taught about in your
FREE copy of my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual.

You're trying to teach gentle behavior and establish love
and trust by slappin your kat around?

Who is being persistent? Takes two to Tango, janet.
My students don't have this kind of behavior problem
cause the last thing we want to do is challenge or
provoke our animals cause that's HOWE you'd get
bitten and end up KILLIN the animal TO BE FAIR janet.

That's a rpdb CONVENTION, People. Our anima lovers
won't hesitate to kill a dog that scares them when they
hurt confront punish intimidate frighten beat choke shock
and slap scruff shake and chin CHUCK their animals in
accordance with university behaviorISSST approval.

Well, as the MonkeysOfNotSoNewSkeete sez, when you
got to hit your animal if you don't make it SCREAM you
didn't hit it hard enough to impress it and will likely make
it aggressive on you.

Right. Except for your goddamned kat is attacking
you when you punish your dogs. Lucky thing you
took her claws out so she can't scratch your
eyeballs out like she'd LOVE to when you get
psychotic on the dogs.

Yeah. What's your goddamned koehler book say about
giving an effective corrections, janet? You know ineffective
corrections only reinforce bad behaviors, don't you agree
janet? I expect EVERY trainer here will agree to that, janet.

You lying dog abusing Thugs like to try to diminish the degree
of pain and fear you inflict when you shock jerk choke beat
and intimidate your animals.

What happened to EFFECTIVE CORRECTIONS?

You can't have it both ways janet.

You think so alison? You think physically and emotionally
punishing and alienating a fearful critter is the best thing
to do? I suppose, cause you've also said killin animals
is the best thing to do when you run outta ideas and information, alison.

Is that so? You couldn't prove it by leah's and liea's
and mary and nessa's and janet's and tara o'sdogs,
just to mention a few of the regular lying dog abusing
Thugs who've had major long term temperament and
behavior problems as a direct result of this kind of IDIOCY alison.

That's curious. Kats are smarter than dogs.

Yeah. HOWE'S Franklin recuperating from his
abdominal surgery from eatin your dirty shorts
as I WARNED you would happen because of
HOWE you was training him back in January?

AS EVIDENCED BY YOUR PSYCHO KAT.

EXACTLY! That's HOWE COME we got to identify and
expose you and your vicious lying coward dog abusing
Gang Of Thugs.

All that and then some, janet. Stick around.

Because you was fixin to kill her for biting you.

Yeah. I hope you're not taking advantage of the
shelter in your medical treatment of a behavior
problem you cause by punishing your animals,
janet.

Yeah. And I'll throw you into the middle of next year
when I drop the hammer on you.

You're finished in the shelter and training business janet.
Your student nessa is gonna make you the laughinstock
of rpdb just like carol levy did for good ol booby maida
and his credit of course all goes to the world famous
captain arthur haggerty, trainer of the world famous
uncle matty.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAAAA!!!

The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >

You think she's makin it up?

She LIVES WITH THEM, janet.

You mean as opposed to abuse, like shocking and kicking the dog
AS STATED by the OP, janet.

Is it, janet? Is it as SAD as you chokin shockin and murderin dogs, janet?

Your own DEAD DOGS got flattened by a car in front of
your HOWES and your other DEAD DOG croaked in 104F heat
on accHOWENT of IT didn't want to come inside and be
LOCKED IN A BOX in the air conditioning.

Hey? You remember when you shocked choked and murdered
that little innocent DEAD DOG in "interested in hearing," janet?

You mean, on accHOWENT of you wouldn't want to GET CAUGHT
calling the heat on a family member?

You mean instead of TEACHIN them HOWE to puppely handle
and train the dog, janet?

PERHAPS she could offer to PAY to have the dog MURDERED at your shelter, eh janet?

INDEED?

You mean, like THIS?:
"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040324071828.07753.00000001@mb-m18.aol.com...

"sionnach" <rhyfe...@msn.com> wrote in message news:c3qi15$2biuoh$1@ID-45033.news.uni-berlin.de...

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

Subject: Re: Video clip......."Nero" practicing bark alert,
while walking backwards
Date: 2004-06-05 18:53:50 PST

"micha el" <spam_yurs...@spamyourmamma.co**m wrote in message
news: yIydnZpPsIzg6l_d4p2...@comcast.com...

Anyway, contrary to your PR, this is what
it felt like to me when I got shocked by
Hope's collar.

It felt like a bomb going off in my
hand and forearm.

"Tricia9999" <tricia9...@aol.com wrote in message news: 20021117101433.10365.00000...@mb-cg.aol.com...

Some run through it. Others get shocked and become
too scared to go out in the yard anymore.

Just heard of a guy that has to rehome his dog,
because the dog got caught right in the path of
the shock and will now not go near his person,
won't go outside.

Just hides under a desk in the house.

------------------------------**----

Jerking choking and shockin and lockin dogs
in boxes and ignoring their cries makes their
dogs go "EWWWW" but they don't NOTICE
EXXXCEPT to spray BINACA in their eyes
and jerk and choke them on pronged spiked
pinch choke collars and shock and spray MOORE
aversives in their faces.

Do you think the citronella collar is CRUEL cause
the SMELL LINGERS after the dog's been sprayed
in the face and the dog won't know HOWE COME IT was MACED?

They're DUMB ANIMALS these MENTALLY ILL
LYING DOG ABUSERS HURT and MURDER.

These dogs are SAFER with J.Q. Pubic than dog lovers.
At least they'll be shot on sight or murdered in a animal
control center, instead of jerked and choked and shocked
by dog abusing cowards who make their livin off of MISEREY
PAIN FEAR and DEATH.

"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.
"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshu...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:McYnb.45145$ao4.106231@attbi_s51...

"Things are beginning to get much worse day
by day and the vets seem unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR**ufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR**ufusSmall.WMV"

THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES
and ASYLUM ESCAPEES.

Here is a video from Fred which I have a few concerns
about (and maybe Fred can weigh in if he sees fit), THE
SAME "FRED" that johnny would invite to heelp his
shelter dogs learn RESPECT.

This is a video about Nero being taught to get on
a skateboard.

http://www.studioonline.com/pl**ayvi...84B9ABD**FCE0F

or

http://tinyurl.com/389al

In this video, the dog is constantly jerking his
head all around. I'm not SHORE why he's doing that.
If he's doing it because he is being shocked repeatedly
into getting onto that skateboard, then it is my
opinion that Fred Hassen is a dog abuser in the
extreme. As would anyone be, no matter how much
"experience" they had shocking dogs, nor how
nationally "respected" they are/were.

If, HOWEver, the dog is jerking his head all around
because he is happy and for no other reason, well,
then, never mind. I've just never seen this kind of
behavior from a dog before, so maybe Fred can
explain what would cause a dog to move his head
like that.

"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosma...@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20 ginge...@my-deja.com wrote:

Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use. Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars. At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."

8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled).

If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.

This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer." Lynn K.

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer."

Lynn K.
------------------------------*---

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.

Lynn K.

"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
every adoptable dog on intake. I frankly felt that the
effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.

Should I have refused to groom them?

Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."

Lynn K.

Baghdad Bob <Baghdadbob wrote in message
<news: 04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@TeraNews...

Lynn, looks like he got you there if these
quotes are true.

In the posts below you take responsibility for
making those calls.

In your post above, you state you do not
make those calls.

Which one is it?

-------------------

WORDS OF WISDOM
from our own Lynn Kosmakos
1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day
For Twenty Years

I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM

"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-
depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50
mg of Zoloft every day.

I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to
learn more, while happily sharing pertinent
information I have learned. But if I were ever
to post such sh*t, I would hope that every other
reader of this group would be rightfully outraged."

"Community is an evolutionary thing that we
earn the right to participate in by observing
the easily understood rules and contributing
to in constructive ways."

Lynn K.

------------------------------*-----------

"It wasn't that meds didn't work for her
- she wouldn't take them. I particularly remember
a comment she made about scarey side effects of
Lithium. Hardly. After 17 years on it, I think
I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of
any side effect is far less frightening than the
very real dangers of life without it." Lynn K.

BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

THAT'S sumpthin to be PR-HOWED abHOWET, eh matty?

Subject: Re: OT Cat "Accentuate The Positive."
Date: 2002-07-23 23:06:04 PST HOWEDY janet,
"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20020723204158.27450.00000335@mb-mj.aol.com...

The kat is reacting to janet punishing her dogs.

That's HOWE COME she's taken the kat to the NEUROLOGIST.

You don't see that as playing you off cause the only thing
you can think about is guarding your food bowl.

The kat is exhibiting OCD behavior just as our pal professor
lying doc SCRUFF SHAKE and scream NO into its face for
5 seconds dermer's little magnificient masturbator Maxie
does, from being punished.

Because the NEUROLOGIST isn't a behaviorIST and
the behaviorists don't know enough about behavior to
recognize that OCD behaviors are caused by MISHANDLING.

So we won't be poppin the kat on the snout noMOORE.

Take away the valium and the kat will go back to biting you
when you punish the dogs or scold her, janet.

She's grateful you've mutilated and intimidated her.

Yeah? What's the NEUROLOGIST say her prognosis is? I
hear she's got a brain tumor...

DUH-OH! Doesn't that suggest the stress of janet being
a psychopath is what's causing the "seizure" acitivity???

Because the kat is SCARED TO DEATH janet.

She's normally frightened and suspicious of you, cause
you're a freakin psychopath.

Perhaps some of that play would lace you open if you
hadn't pulled her claws out for her.

Because she's nearly flat lining on the goddamned valium janet.
That shit can really tear up your liver.

You mean her attack kat behavior when you punish your dogs
and correct her for bothering you.

Once again alison, try to figger it out. Puttin the kat down
or hiding the food or using barriers, fear, force, restriction
avoidance and intimidation are what perpetuates these
behavior problems as they called NEGATIVE ATTENTION
GETTING TECHNIQUES. That's all taught about in your
FREE copy of my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual.

You're trying to teach gentle behavior and establish love
and trust by slappin your kat around?

Who is being persistent? Takes two to Tango, janet.
My students don't have this kind of behavior problem
cause the last thing we want to do is challenge or
provoke our animals cause that's HOWE you'd get
bitten and end up KILLIN the animal TO BE FAIR janet.

That's a rpdb CONVENTION, People. Our anima lovers
won't hesitate to kill a dog that scares them when they
hurt confront punish intimidate frighten beat choke shock
and slap scruff shake and chin CHUCK their animals in
accordance with university behaviorISSST approval.

Well, as the MonkeysOfNotSoNewSkeete sez, when you
got to hit your animal if you don't make it SCREAM you
didn't hit it hard enough to impress it and will likely make
it aggressive on you.

Right. Except for your goddamned kat is attacking
you when you punish your dogs. Lucky thing you
took her claws out so she can't scratch your
eyeballs out like she'd LOVE to when you get
psychotic on the dogs.

Yeah. What's your goddamned koehler book say about
giving an effective corrections, janet? You know ineffective
corrections only reinforce bad behaviors, don't you agree
janet? I expect EVERY trainer here will agree to that, janet.

You lying dog abusing Thugs like to try to diminish the degree
of pain and fear you inflict when you shock jerk choke beat
and intimidate your animals.

What happened to EFFECTIVE CORRECTIONS?

You can't have it both ways janet.

You think so alison? You think physically and emotionally
punishing and alienating a fearful critter is the best thing
to do? I suppose, cause you've also said killin animals
is the best thing to do when you run outta ideas and information, alison.

Is that so? You couldn't prove it by leah's and liea's
and mary and nessa's and janet's and tara o'sdogs,
just to mention a few of the regular lying dog abusing
Thugs who've had major long term temperament and
behavior problems as a direct result of this kind of IDIOCY alison.

That's curious. Kats are smarter than dogs.

Yeah. HOWE'S Franklin recuperating from his
abdominal surgery from eatin your dirty shorts
as I WARNED you would happen because of
HOWE you was training him back in January?

AS EVIDENCED BY YOUR PSYCHO KAT.

EXACTLY! That's HOWE COME we got to identify and
expose you and your vicious lying coward dog abusing
Gang Of Thugs.

All that and then some, janet. Stick around.

Because you was fixin to kill her for biting you.

Yeah. I hope you're not taking advantage of the
shelter in your medical treatment of a behavior
problem you cause by punishing your animals,
janet.

Yeah. And I'll throw you into the middle of next year
when I drop the hammer on you.

You're finished in the shelter and training business janet.
Your student nessa is gonna make you the laughinstock
of rpdb just like carol levy did for good ol booby maida
and his credit of course all goes to the world famous
captain arthur haggerty, trainer of the world famous
uncle matty.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAAAA!!!

The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >

You think she's makin it up?

She LIVES WITH THEM, janet.

You mean as opposed to abuse, like shocking and kicking the dog
AS STATED by the OP, janet.

Is it, janet? Is it as SAD as you chokin shockin and murderin dogs, janet?

Your own DEAD DOGS got flattened by a car in front of
your HOWES and your other DEAD DOG croaked in 104F heat
on accHOWENT of IT didn't want to come inside and be
LOCKED IN A BOX in the air conditioning.

Hey? You remember when you shocked choked and murdered
that little innocent DEAD DOG in "interested in hearing," janet?

You mean, on accHOWENT of you wouldn't want to GET CAUGHT
calling the heat on a family member?

You mean instead of TEACHIN them HOWE to puppely handle
and train the dog, janet?

PERHAPS she could offer to PAY to have the dog MURDERED at your shelter, eh janet?

INDEED?

You mean, like THIS?:
"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040324071828.07753.00000001@mb-m18.aol.com...

"sionnach" <rhyfe...@msn.com> wrote in message news:c3qi15$2biuoh$1@ID-45033.news.uni-berlin.de...

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

Subject: Re: Video clip......."Nero" practicing bark alert,
while walking backwards
Date: 2004-06-05 18:53:50 PST

"micha el" <spam_yurs...@spamyourmamma.co**m wrote in message
news: yIydnZpPsIzg6l_d4p2...@comcast.com...

Anyway, contrary to your PR, this is what
it felt like to me when I got shocked by
Hope's collar.

It felt like a bomb going off in my
hand and forearm.

"Tricia9999" <tricia9...@aol.com wrote in message news: 20021117101433.10365.00000...@mb-cg.aol.com...

Some run through it. Others get shocked and become
too scared to go out in the yard anymore.

Just heard of a guy that has to rehome his dog,
because the dog got caught right in the path of
the shock and will now not go near his person,
won't go outside.

Just hides under a desk in the house.

------------------------------**----

Jerking choking and shockin and lockin dogs
in boxes and ignoring their cries makes their
dogs go "EWWWW" but they don't NOTICE
EXXXCEPT to spray BINACA in their eyes
and jerk and choke them on pronged spiked
pinch choke collars and shock and spray MOORE
aversives in their faces.

Do you think the citronella collar is CRUEL cause
the SMELL LINGERS after the dog's been sprayed
in the face and the dog won't know HOWE COME IT was MACED?

They're DUMB ANIMALS these MENTALLY ILL
LYING DOG ABUSERS HURT and MURDER.

These dogs are SAFER with J.Q. Pubic than dog lovers.
At least they'll be shot on sight or murdered in a animal
control center, instead of jerked and choked and shocked
by dog abusing cowards who make their livin off of MISEREY
PAIN FEAR and DEATH.

"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.
"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshu...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:McYnb.45145$ao4.106231@attbi_s51...

"Things are beginning to get much worse day
by day and the vets seem unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR**ufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR**ufusSmall.WMV"

THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES
and ASYLUM ESCAPEES.

Here is a video from Fred which I have a few concerns
about (and maybe Fred can weigh in if he sees fit), THE
SAME "FRED" that johnny would invite to heelp his
shelter dogs learn RESPECT.

This is a video about Nero being taught to get on
a skateboard.

http://www.studioonline.com/pl**ayvi...84B9ABD**FCE0F

or

http://tinyurl.com/389al

In this video, the dog is constantly jerking his
head all around. I'm not SHORE why he's doing that.
If he's doing it because he is being shocked repeatedly
into getting onto that skateboard, then it is my
opinion that Fred Hassen is a dog abuser in the
extreme. As would anyone be, no matter how much
"experience" they had shocking dogs, nor how
nationally "respected" they are/were.

If, HOWEver, the dog is jerking his head all around
because he is happy and for no other reason, well,
then, never mind. I've just never seen this kind of
behavior from a dog before, so maybe Fred can
explain what would cause a dog to move his head
like that.

"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosma...@home.com)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20 ginge...@my-deja.com wrote:

Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use. Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars. At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."

8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled).

If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.

This is important - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer." Lynn K.

"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
schedules and duties causes a great deal of
scheduling overhead.

And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
volunteers get the meaningful experience that
they work for.

Someone has to be responsible for that
Volunteer Program, and it is best done
by a non-volunteer."

Lynn K.
------------------------------*---

"Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution
Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn.

lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
When he barks, use the line for a correction.

- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.

Lynn K.

"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
every adoptable dog on intake. I frankly felt that the
effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.

Should I have refused to groom them?

Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."

Lynn K.

Baghdad Bob <Baghdadbob wrote in message
<news: 04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@TeraNews...

Lynn, looks like he got you there if these
quotes are true.

In the posts below you take responsibility for
making those calls.

In your post above, you state you do not
make those calls.

Which one is it?

-------------------

WORDS OF WISDOM
from our own Lynn Kosmakos
1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of Zoloft every day
For Twenty Years

I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM

"I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-
depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50
mg of Zoloft every day.

I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to
learn more, while happily sharing pertinent
information I have learned. But if I were ever
to post such sh*t, I would hope that every other
reader of this group would be rightfully outraged."

"Community is an evolutionary thing that we
earn the right to participate in by observing
the easily understood rules and contributing
to in constructive ways."

Lynn K.

------------------------------*-----------

"It wasn't that meds didn't work for her
- she wouldn't take them. I particularly remember
a comment she made about scarey side effects of
Lithium. Hardly. After 17 years on it, I think
I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of
any side effect is far less frightening than the
very real dangers of life without it." Lynn K.

BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

THAT'S sumpthin to be PR-HOWED abHOWET, eh matty?

Subject: Re: OT Cat "Accentuate The Positive."
Date: 2002-07-23 23:06:04 PST HOWEDY janet,
"J1Boss" <j1b...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20020723204158.27450.00000335@mb-mj.aol.com...

The kat is reacting to janet punishing her dogs.

That's HOWE COME she's taken the kat to the NEUROLOGIST.

You don't see that as playing you off cause the only thing
you can think about is guarding your food bowl.

The kat is exhibiting OCD behavior just as our pal professor
lying doc SCRUFF SHAKE and scream NO into its face for
5 seconds dermer's little magnificient masturbator Maxie
does, from being punished.

Because the NEUROLOGIST isn't a behaviorIST and
the behaviorists don't know enough about behavior to
recognize that OCD behaviors are caused by MISHANDLING.

So we won't be poppin the kat on the snout noMOORE.

Take away the valium and the kat will go back to biting you
when you punish the dogs or scold her, janet.

She's grateful you've mutilated and intimidated her.

Yeah? What's the NEUROLOGIST say her prognosis is? I
hear she's got a brain tumor...

DUH-OH! Doesn't that suggest the stress of janet being
a psychopath is what's causing the "seizure" acitivity???

Because the kat is SCARED TO DEATH janet.

She's normally frightened and suspicious of you, cause
you're a freakin psychopath.

Perhaps some of that play would lace you open if you
hadn't pulled her claws out for her.

Because she's nearly flat lining on the goddamned valium janet.
That shit can really tear up your liver.

You mean her attack kat behavior when you punish your dogs
and correct her for bothering you.

Once again alison, try to figger it out. Puttin the kat down
or hiding the food or using barriers, fear, force, restriction
avoidance and intimidation are what perpetuates these
behavior problems as they called NEGATIVE ATTENTION
GETTING TECHNIQUES. That's all taught about in your
FREE copy of my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual.

You're trying to teach gentle behavior and establish love
and trust by slappin your kat around?

Who is being persistent? Takes two to Tango, janet.
My students don't have this kind of behavior problem
cause the last thing we want to do is challenge or
provoke our animals cause that's HOWE you'd get
bitten and end up KILLIN the animal TO BE FAIR janet.

That's a rpdb CONVENTION, People. Our anima lovers
won't hesitate to kill a dog that scares them when they
hurt confront punish intimidate frighten beat choke shock
and slap scruff shake and chin CHUCK their animals in
accordance with university behaviorISSST approval.

Well, as the MonkeysOfNotSoNewSkeete sez, when you
got to hit your animal if you don't make it SCREAM you
didn't hit it hard enough to impress it and will likely make
it aggressive on you.

Right. Except for your goddamned kat is attacking
you when you punish your dogs. Lucky thing you
took her claws out so she can't scratch your
eyeballs out like she'd LOVE to when you get
psychotic on the dogs.

Yeah. What's your goddamned koehler book say about
giving an effective corrections, janet? You know ineffective
corrections only reinforce bad behaviors, don't you agree
janet? I expect EVERY trainer here will agree to that, janet.

You lying dog abusing Thugs like to try to diminish the degree
of pain and fear you inflict when you shock jerk choke beat
and intimidate your animals.

What happened to EFFECTIVE CORRECTIONS?

You can't have it both ways janet.

You think so alison? You think physically and emotionally
punishing and alienating a fearful critter is the best thing
to do? I suppose, cause you've also said killin animals
is the best thing to do when you run outta ideas and information, alison.

Is that so? You couldn't prove it by leah's and liea's
and mary and nessa's and janet's and tara o'sdogs,
just to mention a few of the regular lying dog abusing
Thugs who've had major long term temperament and
behavior problems as a direct result of this kind of IDIOCY alison.

That's curious. Kats are smarter than dogs.

Yeah. HOWE'S Franklin recuperating from his
abdominal surgery from eatin your dirty shorts
as I WARNED you would happen because of
HOWE you was training him back in January?

AS EVIDENCED BY YOUR PSYCHO KAT.

EXACTLY! That's HOWE COME we got to identify and
expose you and your vicious lying coward dog abusing
Gang Of Thugs.

All that and then some, janet. Stick around.

Because you was fixin to kill her for biting you.

Yeah. I hope you're not taking advantage of the
shelter in your medical treatment of a behavior
problem you cause by punishing your animals,
janet.

Yeah. And I'll throw you into the middle of next year
when I drop the hammer on you.

You're finished in the shelter and training business janet.
Your student nessa is gonna make you the laughinstock
of rpdb just like carol levy did for good ol booby maida
and his credit of course all goes to the world famous
captain arthur haggerty, trainer of the world famous
uncle matty.

BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAAAA!!!

The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >

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