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1 5th August 15:01
riss
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Hey, My dog just chowed down on a peach and I have heard that it can be
fatal to dogs, does anyone have any info!
Please Help!!!
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2 5th August 15:01
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In article <a9defdef723a8a424cb48259d4c08552@localhost.talkab outpets.com> "riss" <power-6@shaw.ca> writes:


Call your vet. How large is your dog? Peach pits can have very
sharp, tips. Is there an emergency veterinarian service in your
town?

--Marshall
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3 5th August 15:01
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peach pits contain very small amounts of cyanide. not enough to kill a
human, but it could kill a small dog. i'd call the emergency vet and see
what they say. in the mean time, induce vomiting if you can (outside!), and
watch for seizures, rapid breathing, weakness, rapid heartbeat and
restlessness.

get to the vet!

-kelly
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4 6th August 08:29
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I agree with the poster, here--but also if the hull of the pit is solid and
the dog didn't crack it or anything it may never get exposed to the cyanide,
which is in the meat of the pit. Keep an eye on it and phone the vet, but
don't flat-out panic.
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5 7th August 01:21
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<a9defdef723a8a424cb48259d4c08552@localhost.talkab outpets.com>
"riss" <power-6@shaw.ca> writes:


The Puppy WizardISMS - Number Five:
Honor Thy Puppy Wizard-
The Human Nature Of Man -
And A Bitch Slap From The Left Hand Of doG
"Robin Nuttall" <robinjn@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:Is%yc.97324$Ly.73222@attbi_s01...


sharon too is veterinary office manager for
her veterinary office husband, the veterinarian.

Bones can kill dogs.


Feeding dogs bones could kill them. Some folks
speculate the dog develops the ability to digest
bones if they've been raised on them, but there's
probably no clinical evidence.

HOWE MUCH MONEY does your office make
doin intestinal surgery for dogs who've been
inapupriately fed or swallowed dangerHOWES
stuff cause your vererinary office doesn't advise
folks HOWE to poison proof their dogs cause
you don't know HOWE?

Lots of folks feed bones and choke and shock
their dogs and lock them in boxes. That doesn't
mean it's safe or RIGHT.


The Amazing Puppy Wizard sez "NO BONES."


INDEED. Bones can break teeth.


Perhaps she didn't have a good recall?


HOWER dog lovers recommend raw bones,
especially chicken / turkey backs and necks.

INDEED. The Amazing Puppy Wizard would
give an emetic immediately, as the risk of
puncturing the esophogus is less risky than
passing the intestines.

That's HOWE COME you shouldn't do nuthin
The Amazing Puppy Wizard doesn't recommend.

From: steven.botts (steven.botts@cwix.com)
Subject: the fifth commandment
Newsgroups: a.bsu.religion
Date: 1999/06/25

The Fifth Commandment:

Honor your father and your mother as the Lord your God commanded
you, so that your days may be long and that
it may go well with you in the land that the Lord your God
is giving you.

On the face of it, this commandment seems like a
non-sequiter. It seems to be saying that if you honor
your parents, then you will have a long and happy life.

Considered a bit more closely, however, it makes a
lot of sense. Perhaps I can make my point with a story
that comes from the Taoist tradition.

In ancient China, there lived as family that included
a father, a son, and a grandfather. One day, the father
said to the son " Your grandfather is worthless. He
contributes nothing to the household anymore. He is
always sick and he cries and complains constantly.

I want you to hitch up the oxcart, put him into this big
basket I am giving you, and take him down to the river
and dump him. "

The boy nodded his head in agreement. "Yes, Father,
I'll do that", he said. "And I'll be sure and bring the
basket back".

"No, you can just dump the basket with him", said
the father. "You won't be needing it anymore".

"But Father", protested the boy, "Won't I need it
to take you down to the river someday?"

I think this story pretty well ilustrates the point that
you can expect to be treated in about the same way
that your children observe you treating your parents.

Of course we are nor so barbarous today as to take
them to the river and dump them in to drown. Instead,
we take them to nursing homes and abandon them
there to years of inactivity and uselessness.

To help our old people face these yearsof lonliness
and despair, modern medical science has made
available drugs that prolong life, giving them more
years in which to live as social discards before
death finally releases them.

Some wouild say this commandment is not always
valid because it fails to take into account the fact that
some parents seem to deserve no honor. "What if your
father was a drunk and your mother beat you just for
the Hell of it?" they say. I can only point out that the
commandment says to HONOR your father and mother.

It does not say that you have to love them or trust them.

This means that if you want your children to respect your
wishes in regard to how you will be treated in your later
years, you must provide the example.

Steve

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--------------


The Puppy WizardISMS - Number Four -
Silence, Tyranny, Fear And Death -
The Human Nature Of Man -
And A Bitch Slap From The Left Hand Of doG

HOWEDY People,

"It is by muteness that a dog becomes so utterly
beyond value. With him, words play no torturing
tricks.........., " John Galsworthy.

Like a confessor Priest? Don't bet your dog won't
tell on you... Their behaviors reflect our words,
actions and training quirks. Jerry HOWE, The
Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

The Puppy Wizard sez "A dog is a dog as a child
is a child. They only respond in PREDICTABLE
NORMAL NATURAL INNATE REFLEXIVE ways to
situations and cir***stances of their environment
which we create for them.

ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING. Damn The Descartean War of
"Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words
And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH. SAME SAME SAME
SAME, For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good
of its victims, may be the most oppressive. Those
who torment us for our own good will torment us
without end, for they do so with the approval of
their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis.

"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
Aeschylus (525BC-456BC), Agamemnon.

"If You Talk With The Animals, They Will Talk
With You And You Will Know Each Other.

If You Do Not Talk To Them, You Will Not Know
Them, And What You Do Not Know You Will Fear.

What One Fears, One Destroys," Chief Dan George,
adapted with permission from his FREE copy of The
Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

------------------------------------------------------------

The Puppy WizardISMS - Number Three -
Gandhi And The Bhagavad Gita -
The Human Nature Of Man -
And A Bitch Slap From The Left Hand Of doG

HOWEDY People,

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
~ Mohandas Gandhi -- Adapted with permission from
his FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual. <{} ; ~ ) >

The Puppy Wizard sez "A dog is a dog as a child
is a child. They only respond in PREDICTABLE
NORMAL NATURAL INNATE REFLEXIVE ways to
situations and cir***stances of their environment
which we create for them.

ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING. Damn The Descartean War of
"Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words
And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH. SAME SAME SAME
SAME, For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.

"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change, Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would
Not Obtain Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's And All Dogs, As Taught In Your FREE
Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual."

All behavior problems including OCD's and
many physical DIS-EASES like ear infections,
self mutilation, urinary tract / bHOWEL / bladder
DIS-EASE, seizures, Addison's / Cusing's /
endocrine symptoms, even lameness, cataracts
and periodontal DIS-EASE are caused by STRESS
from mishandling as taught by HOWER dog lovers
and behavior E***PERTS like professor "SCRUFF
SHAKE and SCREAM 'NO!' into it's face for 5 seconds
and lock IT in a box for ten minutes reflection" dermer,
research associate at UofWI dept of ****-ytic behaviorISM.

"I posted this to rec.pets.dogs.health without
too much success. Things are beginning to
get much worse day by day and the vets seem
unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorRufusSmall.WMV"

THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES and
ASYLUM ESCAPEES.

"Even the wise man acts in character with his nature,
indeed all creatures act according to their natures.

What is the use of compulsion then? The love and
hate which are aroused by the objects of sense arise
from Nature, do not yield to them. They only obstruct
the path.

Only the unenlightened speak of wisdom and right action
as separate, not the wise. If any man knows one, he enjoys
the fruit of both. The level which is reached by wisdom is
attained through right action as well. He who perceives that
the two are one knows the truth." Bhagavad Gita, adapted
by Krishna with permission from His FREE copy of The
Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

-------------------------------------------------------

The Puppy WizardISMS - Number Two -
Darwinism And The Human Nature Of Man -
And A Bitch Slap From The Left Hand Of doG

HOWEDY People,

The Amazing Puppy Wizard relies on a
hybrid koehler / SocraTEASE FUNctional
****-ytic CONstructive approach, whereby
HE allHOWES HIS opponets' to CONstruct
a FUNtional scafflold in cyberspace and
****-yzes their words and when the time
is right, drops the floor HOWET from under
them and hoists them by their own petards
for the Whole Wild World to mock.

It works like MAGICK.
TRUST The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

Perhaps Darwin didn't look closesly enough.
Perhaps Darwin didn't stake his life on his
THEORIES. Seems Darwins THEORY of
Evolution is DEAD WRONG!:

"INBREEDING ain't genetic, IT'S SPIRITUAL,"
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

--------------------------------------------------------

The Puppy WizardISMS - Number WON -
The Human Nature Of Man - And A Bitch
Slap From The Left Hand Of doG

HOWEDY People,

A WIZE man WON fine day sez: "You
can't have it both ways." HOWEver, he
never met The Amazing Puppy Wizard
who always gets it anyHOWE HE LIKES
cause THAT'S the Nature of the Beast.

The Jewish text _Darchei Shalom_
(Path of Peace) offers this advice for
coexistance.

1. Address issues, not people.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard relies on HIS
Pattonted hybrid kohler / Socratease FUNctional
****-ytic Method of BehaviorISM and the CONstructive
approach with which to build a scaffold on which
to choke HIS adversaries with life's most meaningful
issues, based on their own written words with which
to hoist them on their own petard when The Amazing
Puppy Wizard drops the floor HOWET from under them
and leaves them hanging, for the Whole Wild World to
mock HOWET LHOWED.

2. Check sources. Statements about the beliefs,
behaviors, and quotations of another group should
always be verified with members of that group for
accuracy, context, and intent.

EVERY THING The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ
is indellibly archived in The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
Archives on Google.

"Never say nuthing you can't GUARANTEE and
before you do anything GET IT IN WRITING, cause
you can't TRUST noWON," The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's DADDY.

That's HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard
chose these forums as HIS, cause EVERY THING
said here abHOWETS is indellibly inscribed in The
Amazing Puppy Wizard's Archives on Google, FOREVER.

3. Avoid stereotyping and sweeping generalities,
such as defining a whole group's behavior by the
behavior of some.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard sez "You can always
improve yourself, the door to reformation is never
closed unless you're AFRAID to open it."

"A Dog Is A Dog As A Child Is A Child. They Respond
In Predictable Innate, Normal, Natural, Instinctive,
Reflexive, Ways, To Cir***stances And Situations
Of Their Environments Which We Create For Them.

ALL BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED BY
MISHANDLING. Damn The Descartean War of
"Nature Vs Nurture." We Teach By HOWER Words
And Actions And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual CANNOT FAIL
cause it's scientifically designed using non physical
non oppositional techniques... just like Christ taught,
only better.

4. Avoid words of incitement. Language meant
merely to mock, divide, and insult should *never*
be used.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard skillfully uses
strong, often vile, meaninful words, precisely
aimed at the heart of HIS adversaries who
left them behind, THEIR OWN WORDS, as
archived on Google, IDENTIFYING them by
their human nature.

Thoughts are THINGS. Where do your thoughts
go when noWON is minding the shop and you
talk doG?

"Speech is a mirror of the soul: as a man speaks,
so is he." Publilius Syrus, First century B.C., Maxim 1073

"We are what we do."

From: Marshall Dermer (dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST


And how do we know this aspect of his advice is right?

Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.

His advice could be subject to an empirical ****ysis.

--Marshall =================
"Marshall Dermer" <dermer@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@uwm.edu...

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpanders@zfree.co.nz)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST

Hello Marshall,

The way I view it from my observation of how
my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts
the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just
interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for
a second and then will either continue the
behaviour or do something else.

The praise reassures the dog that the sound
distraction is not a threat or punishment,
however if everytime the dog resumes a
particular behaviour it's distracted immediately
(and praised immediately for reassurance) then
it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling
and it ceases.

A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place
and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be
otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable
alternate behaviour is offered.

One example, Sam used to jump up on me
when I arrived home, I would shake can to
distract him right at the moment he was
about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions
he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of
course this was fine so I let it be.

While the concept of shake cans is not new,
I haven't read any other advice that says to
praise immediately regardless of what the
dog does next (the common advice is to
praise once the dog is doing a desired
behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted
behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn)
and from my own experiences is an important
part of the process.


"Estel J. Hines" <ejhines@comcast.net> wrote in message news:w86dna9lBfNZgbTdRVn-hA@comcast.com...


Nuthin E***CEPT HOWE IT'S DONE.


Like a SCRUFF SHAKE, professor?


You mean like SCREAMING "NO!" into ITS face for 5 seconds?


NO, professor SCRUFF SHAKE.

THAT AIN'T HOWE IT WORKS.

NO, professor. You don't UNDERSTAND the METHOD.


****-yize THIS, professor SCRUFF SHAKE:

Here's professor of ****-ytic behaviorISM research
at UofWI marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
"NO!" into ITS face for five seconds and lock IT in a
box for ten minutes contemplation" dermer:

"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.

First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.

How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.

******IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?*******

When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).

"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works."

That's HOWE COME your dog has OCD behaviors
and is deathly ill from The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.

And The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ you
can't post here abHOWETS noMOORE
cause you're a liar and a dog abuser and
a coward and a MENTAL CASE.

Here's HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard teaches
HIS FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual Students to train their critters NEARLY
INSTANTLY.

New Law Of Physics

HOWEDY People,

"The amount of misery and difficulty a dog abuser
has from their dogs is directly proportionate to the
number of times they've WARNED people to KILLFILE
Jerry and not study your FREE copy of The Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method
Manual..."

"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of
Behavior Never Change, Or They'd Not Be
Scientific And Would Not Obtain Consistent,
Reliable, Fast, Effective Results For All Handler's
And All Dogs, NEARLY INSTANTLY, As Taught
In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual."
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >

Here's Disciple Paulie:

Disciple Paulie Sez: "No One Understands
How Wits End Training Really Works, They
Assume It's All Nicey Nicey And don't Realise
It's A Very Disciplined Method That Deals With
Any Situation And The Foundation Is Built On
Trust And Understanding."

Disciple Paulie Writes:

I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell
them they are good dogs and they seem to
follow me, once I told them they were bad dogs
and they ran away from me, now I only ever tell
them they are good dogs and they always are, always.

Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and say
"good dog" sincerely at the end of the request and
I bet you'll find your dog thinking then responding
everytime.

A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule applies
to every aspect of the relationship with your dog.

Obedience and affection are not related, if they were
everyone would have obedient dogs.

Paul.

========================

Here's a couple of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual
Students tellin you HOWE they done it EZ GENTLY
NEARLY INSTANTLY and FOR FREE:
"The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWizard@earthlink.net> schreef inbericht newsLpzb.2640$Qd6.1560@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...

My dog (a 1 year old Yellow Lab) was biting his tail
at the root (Vet said his **** gland was blocked, and
was causing an itch).

After squeezing it, he still wouldn't stop biting his
tail. The vet advised a neck-funnel (don't know wat
you US-guy's call those) so he couldn't reach his butt.

I hate those things, i think they will drive a dog nuts.

I tried the wits end method. (difficult to read such a long
textfile if English is not your native language) Luckily this
is without all the "HOWE's" etc.so at least it's readable for
somebody like me.

The minute he started to bite i trew my key's
next to him on the floor, and praised him (he
stopped biting and looked up when he heard
the sound) I did this 7 times,

after that the tailbiting completely stopped.
Just give the wits end method a try.

One of the possible downloadlocations
is http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html


Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11 ----------------------------
"Paul B" <abcde@clear.net.nz> schreef in bericht news:3ff50d83@clear.net.nz...

The same thing worked with my lab licking/chewing
problem too. He had an itch due to blocked **** glands
and started chewing and licking his tail at the root.

After the glands were squeezed, and the itch was
gone he still wouldn't stop. (because the place he
chewed raw was itching)

After some training (roughly the same methode as
yours) he stopped.

--
Hennie van Dalen
http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/ --------------------------------------
"Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis***@chello.nl>
wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@amstwist00...

RTFM is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for "Read The F***ing
Manual" ;-) I used the manual and it works
very good!

But it is a long text to read (76 pages printed on
A4-size paper) My lab is 1year old now, and teaching
him something new takes about 30minutes
(depending on what to teach offcourse)

My other dog (a 7year old staffordshire terrier-mix) is a bit
slower in learning, but he is used to me calling him a "bad
dog"whenever he did something i didn't want him to do, or
it might be the age.

Sometimes it looks like Sam (the lab) WANTS to learn
something new: he wants me to bring along the can
filled with washers whenever we go for a walk. It is a
very "humane" way of teaching: the dog is allways a
"good dog", and never a "bad dog"

There is nu punishment or prong-collars involved.

For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without
beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog,
he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask
permission" first, and to my surprise it worked!

My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky for them),
maybe this helped too.

Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html

-- Hennie van Dalen http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
http://www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/


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