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Help with vet bill
HOWEDY diddler,
47. angel1505 Nov 23, 3:30 am
From: "angel1505" <newfait...@yahoo.com> - Find messages by this author
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 03:30:11 -0500
Subject: Re: SPCA protects who's interests?
I was disappointed with the SPCA about 6mo. ago. I was walking on the
beach
(in San Francisco) with a friend when we came across a bird that was
laying on its back and couldnt move. I called the SPCA to have them
come
pick it up, but they said all their agents were busy. I said I would
wait
with the bird but they told me I would have to either take it home or
leave it. This bird was wild but he couldnt defend himself there were
seagulls flying around trying to get to him and he was stuck on his
back.
So since the SPCA wouldnt come get him. I took my sweater off and put
it
over him and picked him up and covered his beak. I carried him for 6
blocks with him wiggling and trying to bite. When we got home we called
them and told them we had him. I let him have my sweater since it was
full
of grease or something really dirty. Ever since then I decided not to
donate anymore money to them. I used to donate $20 whenever I could but
not after that experience.
FINE! You can ask her for her phone number and give
your card number to her over a phone line.
If you was IMMUNE to havin a accident HOWE COME your own
SHOCK FENCE couldn't keep your own dogs behind it? BWWEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!!:
From: Kathy Levee (kle...@zoo.uvm.edu)
You'd think the dog could find his
own way back to his HOWES???
But IT can't find ITS way back to his own HOWES?
Like run HOWET on his people and not return?
You FORGOT MURDERIN the vet's office kitty kat
and escaping and destructively chewing a rug and
gettin locked in a box in an HOWEtbuilding to muffle
his CRYING till he was SHITTIN BLOOD and went in for intestinal obstruction.
Naaah. You want a MARVEL? Marvel at that
STUPID KAT that PAINICKED when diddler
snared IT in her leg hold STRANGLE / CHOKE
choke trap. She'd have BLUDGEONED IT had
IT not been wearin a collar. Perhaps she was
lookin for a REWARD, bein a SUBSISTANCE hunter and all.
Ummm, better RETHINK THAT. Your PAL diddler
is a Satanist or somethin weird like that.
diddy wrote:
I certainly was NOT going to keep him, Nor was
I going to throw him away. I was going to go the
distance and get him back home (we fixed some
other problems while he was here) He's now a
happy and great dog, although I wasn't so fond
of him when he first came, and although we grew
close, the whole experience was not among my
fondest memories, until the end.
I needed to redirect his energies. He used escape for
entertainment. Once I gave him very many jobs to do,
and taught him LOTS of positive job skills to redirect
his energies. Once he found positive alternatives, he
finally forgot his negative behaviors which were severely
entrenched by the time I got him.
The first 6 months were awful for both of us.
------------------------------*-------------------
All the "awful"-ness was caused by diddy. Just as all
the awfulness of the blood coming out of Reka's rectum
was caused by diddy and her INSANE need to prevent
her dog with "getting away" with anything (such as telling
diddy she was deathly ill).
Only she led you to believe that she was the hero. Kind2dogs wrote:
diddy wrote:
I think 4 hours or so, I had put him in a supposedly
"Secure" place, while I had to leave. When I got
home, he had trashed my house. From then on,
when I left, he got put in the horse stall.
He trashed my horse stall.
He then got a new horse stall, wore a E-collar,
I electrified the perimeter of the stall and we
were finally able to contain him while we worked
on his escape problems.
Once he learned that I was more determined to
defeat him, he finally subdued. But escaping, to
him was a game.
Both of us had a throughly miserable time during
the stand off. The dog is actually now a very good
citizen. He just had to meet someone more determined,
and stubborn and willing to go the distance to do what it
took, before he would stop
Like I said, I thought he and I were going
to grow old together.
I am not going to go into exactly where we
went before we got that accomplished.
Let's just say it was "ugly"
You call tying the dog to a wall training, diddler, like
HOWE you trained your fence to train your dog?
diddy wrote:
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
"I admit our system fails occasionally"
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
From: diddy <d...@nospam.diddy.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:03:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Help w/Joe Joe!!!!
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in thread news:683bd15v140b4d1efenil2dsqjk1qeq1m2@4ax.com: Paula
Exactly.
But apparently being a soft dog, she may be
making a mistake using a shock collar at all.
I've seen soft dogs not associate well and be
afraid of going outside.
You'd think they've been beaten within an inch
of their lives. I simply will NOT put a e-collar
on a soft dog.
Retrievers tend to handle e-collars well.
i wouldn't hesistate to put an e-collar on a retriever.
I would have to know the boxer and scope it out well
before thinking of using an e-collar on the individual.
From: diddy <d...@nospam.diddy.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:26:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Help w/Joe Joe!!!! "Janet Puistonen" <boxh...@verizon.net
You'd be surprised at the number of people who aren't
into training who are here. They are interested in put-downs.
We even have a trainer here who trains for a living and
didn't know how to properly fit and use a choke chain.
Sets the bar for real high level of "EXPERTS" doesn't it?
Attitude abounds. When you tell what your dog does routinely,
they are so unbelieving that a dog can be trained to that level,
they consider it mythical.
And you see people giving advice here whose dogs counter surf,
whose dogs shred bedrooms, and do other things that just make
you cringe, and then you realize rpdb is all about attitude and
they actually do very little training of dogs.
Which is why they have all this time to play on computers
and talk about it. They ran off the experts with their
attitude a VERY long time ago, and should one peek in, they
gang together and make sure they run them off.
They can't have a bigger fish in their little pond than they are.
---------------------------
r.p.d.b. SYNDROME:
http://www.apa.org/journals/fe *atures/psp7761121.pdf
"UNSKILLED AND UNAWARE OF IT: HOW DIFFICULTIES IN
RECOGNIZING ONE'S OWN INCOMPETENCE LEAD TO INFLATED
SELF-ASSESSMENTS
Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants
scoring in the bottom quartile... grossly overestimated
their best performance and ability. Although their test
scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated
themselves to be in the 62nd."
- Never attribute to malice that which can be
adequately explained by stupidity.
- Sufficiently advanced incompetence is
indistinguishable from malice.
- Insufficiently advanced malice is indistinguishable
from incompetence.
Here's diddler at her best. "Let's just say it was UGLY":
"Franticly And Desperately Demanding To Go Out,
I Finally Put Her In The barn, Locked Securely In A
Horse Stall For The Night," diddler
"My Husband Shot A Dog That Had Been Tearing Up
Trash. USING FOOTHOLD TRAPS IN THE SNOW I
FIND, IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE"
WHEN YOU CAN'T FIND ANY CATS TO SHOOT,
SHOOT HUNGRY DOGS INSTEAD FOR GETTING
IN THE GARBAGE:
diddy (d...@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Oh My God
Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.
I let her out. It's coyote breeding season, and she is
fascinated by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and
listen to them howling. I brought her in, and she spent
the night franticly** and desperately demanding to go out.
After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked
securely in a horse stall for the night.
She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful
day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go
out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she
DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out
to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could
spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT
going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.
At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to
allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.
So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and
decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,
and send a message that her obnoxious behavior
was not going to be tolerated.
This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited
(normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate
(not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn't
sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does
anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves
from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary
confinement.)
I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping
I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and
playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of blood on
the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to
take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.
That blood didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from
Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,
I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious
behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle..
and corresponding coyote breeding season.
Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story.
She had blood (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh.
I had her at the vets office this morning before he
opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched
up with huge air pockets.
Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I
said, last Thursday we took a plastic tarp out of the yard
that we had over the grill to protect it from the weather
because she was chewing it. That would explain
EVERYTHING.
The strings are binding and bunching up her intestines,
cutting her internally and tying her intestines in knots as
it works its way through.
Reka is in a very critical situation. She is going to
require extensive and expensive surgery that I cant
afford. I will manage.
Even with the surgery, her condition will be critical
for awhile. Scary thoughts. I would never have
treated her the way I did last night, if I had even a
clue that she was sick. I feel so badly.
--
diddy
==============================*====
From: diddy (d...@diddy.net)
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST
I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way
I would react. There would be none left standing
to deal with the threat just in case.
If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
continents stop me from pursuing justice.
Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If
someone is feeding his dog outside, his own
dog might not mean THAT much to him.
If he was feeding his dog outside though, many
dogs are food aggressive, and that could most
certainly spark a dog aggression thing.
(and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what
was it doing in his yard?)
I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
horses and called him to help me find it. I would
do the same for threatening my dog.
My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
trash up and down our road for years making an
unbelievable mess.
When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
cheered. Animal control had never been able in
years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)
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From: diddy
(d...@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST
Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet ownership.
I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes, Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.
I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.
To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will not
look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.
I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has never
been harmed by any of the dogs. Danny is there all the
time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.
------------------------------*-------------------------
From: diddy (d...@nospam.diddy.net)
Subject: Re: cats : Crating/Caging: What constitutes abuse?
Date: 2002-08-23 09:18:08 PST Lyn wrote:
Here it would be abuse. If you like your cat you keep it
home. I run a state authorized and monitored nuisance
animal trapline.
This morning there was a cat in a snare. Ordinarily,
an animal caught in a snare can be released unharmed.
One of the animals I am targeting is coyotes (and the
complaint was that coyotes were killing area cats)
Duh.. If your cats are becoming lunch for wild animals,
to me .. It makes sense to keep your cats in where they
can't become lunch.. whatever.
Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It leaped,
and tangled itself, and most certainly strangulated it's
intestines. It had the snare pulled tight down to the
diameter of a dime (just large enough to encircle the
spine) around the waist area.
This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to extricate this ca**t
was exceedingly difficult, not to mention dangerous. Because
I feared damage to the intestines and death of the gut, I
imagined this cat was not likely to survive.
It would have been much simpler to dispatch the unfortunate
cat and take out the dead body. Instead, this cat wore a
collar. it deserved a chance, and the owner deserved closure**.
(no id on the collar) .
It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be taken t**o
the vet for examination. I will probably never know if this
particular cat survives the experience or not.
People in the area were aware that trapping was being done a**nd
apparently still let their cats run free, b oth endangered b**y
the traps and by the coyotes being targeted that are causing** a
problem with their cat population.
Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not have tri**ed
to release this hostile cat. Releasing it may not have been **a
kindness, but then... cats weren't supposed to be attracted **to
this type of trap, in this position, and then they weren't
supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this situation.
If you like your pet, you keep them home. ==============================*========
"diddy" <d...@nospam.diddy.net> wrote in message news:Xns9554DA8F98950danny@216.196.97.142...
diddy wrote:
I certainly was NOT going to keep him, Nor was
I going to throw him away. I was going to go the
distance and get him back home (we fixed some
other problems while he was here) He's now a
happy and great dog, although I wasn't so fond
of him when he first came, and although we grew
close, the whole experience was not among my
fondest memories, until the end.
I needed to redirect his energies. He used escape for
entertainment. Once I gave him very many jobs to do,
and taught him LOTS of positive job skills to redirect
his energies. Once he found positive alternatives, he
finally forgot his negative behaviors which were severely
entrenched by the time I got him.
The first 6 months were awful for both of us.
------------------------------*-------------------
All the "awful"-ness was caused by diddy. Just as all
the awfulness of the blood coming out of Reka's rectum
was caused by diddy and her INSANE need to prevent
her dog with "getting away" with anything (such as telling
diddy she was deathly ill).
Only she led you to believe that she was the hero. Kind2dogs wrote:
diddy wrote:
I think 4 hours or so, I had put him in a supposedly
"Secure" place, while I had to leave. When I got
home, he had trashed my house. From then on,
when I left, he got put in the horse stall.
He trashed my horse stall.
He then got a new horse stall, wore a E-collar,
I electrified the perimeter of the stall and we
were finally able to contain him while we worked
on his escape problems.
Once he learned that I was more determined to
defeat him, he finally subdued. But escaping, to
him was a game.
Both of us had a throughly miserable time during
the stand off. The dog is actually now a very good
citizen. He just had to meet someone more determined,
and stubborn and willing to go the distance to do what it
took, before he would stop.
Like I said, I thought he and I were going
to grow old together.
I am not going to go into exactly where we
went before we got that accomplished.
Let's just say it was "ugly" ------------------------------
"diddy" <d...@diddy.net> wrote in message news:Xns95D87E1A8C786danny@216.196.97.142...
IOW, you got THE SAME PROBLEM and NO METHOD,
eh diddler?
Duh? You need a E***CUSE?
And do it again...
Yeah...
INDEEDY!
Your dogs are HYPERACTIVE on accHOWENT of you ABUSE THEM, diddler.
IN FACT, you CAN'T STOP THEM.
That's what the OP wanted to learn HOWE to do, diddler.
REMEMBER?
You been takin your anti psychotic medications, diddler?
You got it, diddler.
That so?
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